They should have more money each month than those on benefits – that’s for sure!
Shit, I only work 38
Yes!
That would cut into billionaires yacht funds unfortunately.
If only there was a way for millions of us to protest.
I’m over the median wage I should think I should be able to afford children and a nice car as well but here we are 2025 where the median wage is scraping the barrel and just over it is barely much more.
How much do you think people are getting for benefits?
Working 35 and a single parent with kids who need picking up from school still.
Maybe I’ll be ok if I do another 5. I get UC and I’m still massively struggling.
Those big American companies need to pay UK taxes!Google, Amazon, Apple, Microsoft, Facebook, etc all avoid their taxes, while rinsing the UK consumers!
My parents bought their house for ÂŁ21,000 in the 80’s. It took them 4 years of work to save enough to buy it. 🥲
But what about shareholder value????
Given the resources and education levels we have, we should have more compassion and camaraderie AND a basic standard of living. But instead we have false scarcity from the 50 families who share 50% of Britain’s wealth and refuse to pay into the public good, even though the whole public system benefits them more than the rest of us.
Meanwhile guy on social media: “this must be those damn disabled people and immigrants’ fault! I’m sure my beloved billionaire would love to pay us more, if only we got rid of them.”
I don’t even know what a meme is any more.
This is just a statement of fact that’s been said a million times before.
Am I missing something?
The thing is, this was never the case. It depends on what you do for a living and where you do it.
If you work for a charity in London then no, you probably can’t afford a house. And you never could.
how abt fk all of you lol
I’ve always said the average person working average hours should be able to afford an average size house. And that isn’t happening right now. This country is in a mess. We’ve rolled over to the rich for too long and now the whole country is suffering. Generation Z won’t want to work their guts out for nothing. They won’t because there is no point. They can’t afford a house and they will start their adult lives in debt. I feel so sorry for them and it’s time we all did something about it.
And get to retire at 60 (if they so choose) too! This is not a big ask.
The holiday one is interesting. Don’t get me wrong, I love a holiday. But when I was a kid we had maybe two in my first ten years. I don’t feel like I had a deprived childhood. And when my dad was a kid in the 50s basically his mum and his aunt swapped houses for a week so they could have a change of scenery – both in fairly rural areas, so it wasn’t like swapping Salford for Brixton, but still, they weren’t paying to go on holiday, and he had a great time.
They also didn’t have credit cards. If you wanted something, you saved up and paid for it, or you didn’t get it. Or you went and sat uncomfortably in the bank manager’s office while he went through your expenditure line by line.
The modern problem is absolutely 100% housing. The price of both buying and renting the most fundamental human need – a place to live – is so utterly ridiculous now that the only way people survive is hand-to-mouth, and credit. And no party has the guts to do anything, ever, that might bring house prices down a bit, even though they all acknowledge it to be a problem.
The state needs to build affordable houses. Hundreds or thousands of them, every year. Small but affordable family homes, with a bit of garden. Let the private sector do 5 bed exec palaces, but stop trying to pretend they’re ever going to build “affordable” homes. Even when it’s a condition of their planning permission, they weasel out of it.
agreed but 40 hours a week is bullshit
Depends what job they do
I find it interesting that 40 slowly seems to be the new norm
Yeah, better off not working at all, fire out a few sprogs, get a house for free.
Or even just one of those would be nice
I also think someone who works 40hrs should have a much better lifestyle than someone receiving benefits.
Just because someone “works” doesn’t mean they’re useful to the society. A wage is a reflection of what society thinks about the value of a specific person doing a specific job. If someone can’t turn the heating on, it’s time to replace them with AI and robots.
I work 60 but only get paid for 45, does that mean I should also get a chippy tea?
I don’t think holidays are a basic right.
Even right back in the day when one incone households were the norm, holidays were mainly domestic
And it shouldn’t matter what that work is. 40 hours of your life a week is 40 hours regardless of your job title.
Even if the government made those things free they’d still be subject to shortages and rationing that everything else they provide is. The only solution is improving the supply of those things to make them more affordable.
The old way worked better. Man goes to work, women raises the family at home. It worked better in so many ways.
Now, even the way mortgages are structured incentivises women to work. If both partners in the relationship aren’t working, it’s almost impossible to get a decent mortgage. Even with both working, it’s still very difficult.
The new societal structure is simply not as good as the old one. We are seeing society decay in front of our eyes.
Everyone needs to just not go to work for a week.
Why buy a house? Why not rent? For most of history only a minority owned a house. Really you need a housing system that provides long term secure housing, whether renting or some kind of Singapore style home owning scheme which moderates prices but means eventually your family give the home back to the state.Â
Presents, well if depends on what you’re buying.Â
I get the sentiment of the post but it betrays a lack of understanding. Wages are not the key. Systemic changes to how you organise key essentials in life are the key. Money is just numbers on a screen. Zimbabwe had massive numbers and they were/ are poor. It’s not about the size of the numbers. That’s just inflation, which erodes living standards. We need to fix the housing problem and energy problem on a systemic level. Higher wages won’t do that, it will just cause inflation. The numbers get bigger but society doesn’t get richer.Â
Yh everyone talks the talk but when it comes to voting they get duped Everytime by the media into demonizing any party advocating this.
COMMUNIST!
And start a family
The UK birth rate is now lower than our death rate
Pushing house prices down by 50%-70% would be required in the UK and would mean most home-owners will have huge negative equity if they bought in the last 10-15 years. That will probably lead to a lot of bankruptcies and may make it impossible for many to get mortgages again. Even if your word “house” were changed to include flats, the maths would still be pretty grim for May.
People who say that we just need to build another
3-5 million houses and sell them at those lower prices know wha effect that would have on existing house prices and mortgages – but they would rather not talk about it.
Fixing the effects of 40 years of vastly too little home building quickly, except by casing a massive crash first (or filling huge numbers of older house owners), doesn’t really work. This is why those outraged by the crisis that we now have are usually so vague about what they would actually do about it – apart from blame-storming of course.
My first house was £26000… late 80’s…
3x main wage plus 2nd wage … or
3.5 x main wage no second.
That’s how it was.
No deposit? No problem… 100% mortgage…
Tax the rich and get rid of the immigrants. It’ S that simple.
60 years ago no one in my family could buy a house. I’m not related to anyone who’s bought a house.
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But won’t someone think of the Billionaires
They should have more money each month than those on benefits – that’s for sure!
Shit, I only work 38
Yes!
That would cut into billionaires yacht funds unfortunately.
If only there was a way for millions of us to protest.
I’m over the median wage I should think I should be able to afford children and a nice car as well but here we are 2025 where the median wage is scraping the barrel and just over it is barely much more.
How much do you think people are getting for benefits?
Working 35 and a single parent with kids who need picking up from school still.
Maybe I’ll be ok if I do another 5. I get UC and I’m still massively struggling.
Those big American companies need to pay UK taxes!Google, Amazon, Apple, Microsoft, Facebook, etc all avoid their taxes, while rinsing the UK consumers!
My parents bought their house for ÂŁ21,000 in the 80’s. It took them 4 years of work to save enough to buy it. 🥲
But what about shareholder value????
Given the resources and education levels we have, we should have more compassion and camaraderie AND a basic standard of living. But instead we have false scarcity from the 50 families who share 50% of Britain’s wealth and refuse to pay into the public good, even though the whole public system benefits them more than the rest of us.
Meanwhile guy on social media: “this must be those damn disabled people and immigrants’ fault! I’m sure my beloved billionaire would love to pay us more, if only we got rid of them.”
I don’t even know what a meme is any more.
This is just a statement of fact that’s been said a million times before.
Am I missing something?
The thing is, this was never the case. It depends on what you do for a living and where you do it.
If you work for a charity in London then no, you probably can’t afford a house. And you never could.
how abt fk all of you lol
I’ve always said the average person working average hours should be able to afford an average size house. And that isn’t happening right now. This country is in a mess. We’ve rolled over to the rich for too long and now the whole country is suffering. Generation Z won’t want to work their guts out for nothing. They won’t because there is no point. They can’t afford a house and they will start their adult lives in debt. I feel so sorry for them and it’s time we all did something about it.
And get to retire at 60 (if they so choose) too! This is not a big ask.
The holiday one is interesting. Don’t get me wrong, I love a holiday. But when I was a kid we had maybe two in my first ten years. I don’t feel like I had a deprived childhood. And when my dad was a kid in the 50s basically his mum and his aunt swapped houses for a week so they could have a change of scenery – both in fairly rural areas, so it wasn’t like swapping Salford for Brixton, but still, they weren’t paying to go on holiday, and he had a great time.
They also didn’t have credit cards. If you wanted something, you saved up and paid for it, or you didn’t get it. Or you went and sat uncomfortably in the bank manager’s office while he went through your expenditure line by line.
The modern problem is absolutely 100% housing. The price of both buying and renting the most fundamental human need – a place to live – is so utterly ridiculous now that the only way people survive is hand-to-mouth, and credit. And no party has the guts to do anything, ever, that might bring house prices down a bit, even though they all acknowledge it to be a problem.
The state needs to build affordable houses. Hundreds or thousands of them, every year. Small but affordable family homes, with a bit of garden. Let the private sector do 5 bed exec palaces, but stop trying to pretend they’re ever going to build “affordable” homes. Even when it’s a condition of their planning permission, they weasel out of it.
agreed but 40 hours a week is bullshit
Depends what job they do
I find it interesting that 40 slowly seems to be the new norm
Yeah, better off not working at all, fire out a few sprogs, get a house for free.
Or even just one of those would be nice
I also think someone who works 40hrs should have a much better lifestyle than someone receiving benefits.
Just because someone “works” doesn’t mean they’re useful to the society. A wage is a reflection of what society thinks about the value of a specific person doing a specific job. If someone can’t turn the heating on, it’s time to replace them with AI and robots.
I work 60 but only get paid for 45, does that mean I should also get a chippy tea?
I don’t think holidays are a basic right.
Even right back in the day when one incone households were the norm, holidays were mainly domestic
And it shouldn’t matter what that work is. 40 hours of your life a week is 40 hours regardless of your job title.
Even if the government made those things free they’d still be subject to shortages and rationing that everything else they provide is. The only solution is improving the supply of those things to make them more affordable.
The old way worked better. Man goes to work, women raises the family at home. It worked better in so many ways.
Now, even the way mortgages are structured incentivises women to work. If both partners in the relationship aren’t working, it’s almost impossible to get a decent mortgage. Even with both working, it’s still very difficult.
The new societal structure is simply not as good as the old one. We are seeing society decay in front of our eyes.
Everyone needs to just not go to work for a week.
Why buy a house? Why not rent? For most of history only a minority owned a house. Really you need a housing system that provides long term secure housing, whether renting or some kind of Singapore style home owning scheme which moderates prices but means eventually your family give the home back to the state.Â
Presents, well if depends on what you’re buying.Â
I get the sentiment of the post but it betrays a lack of understanding. Wages are not the key. Systemic changes to how you organise key essentials in life are the key. Money is just numbers on a screen. Zimbabwe had massive numbers and they were/ are poor. It’s not about the size of the numbers. That’s just inflation, which erodes living standards. We need to fix the housing problem and energy problem on a systemic level. Higher wages won’t do that, it will just cause inflation. The numbers get bigger but society doesn’t get richer.Â
Yh everyone talks the talk but when it comes to voting they get duped Everytime by the media into demonizing any party advocating this.
COMMUNIST!
And start a family
The UK birth rate is now lower than our death rate
Pushing house prices down by 50%-70% would be required in the UK and would mean most home-owners will have huge negative equity if they bought in the last 10-15 years. That will probably lead to a lot of bankruptcies and may make it impossible for many to get mortgages again. Even if your word “house” were changed to include flats, the maths would still be pretty grim for May.
People who say that we just need to build another
3-5 million houses and sell them at those lower prices know wha effect that would have on existing house prices and mortgages – but they would rather not talk about it.
Fixing the effects of 40 years of vastly too little home building quickly, except by casing a massive crash first (or filling huge numbers of older house owners), doesn’t really work. This is why those outraged by the crisis that we now have are usually so vague about what they would actually do about it – apart from blame-storming of course.
My first house was £26000… late 80’s…
3x main wage plus 2nd wage … or
3.5 x main wage no second.
That’s how it was.
No deposit? No problem… 100% mortgage…
Tax the rich and get rid of the immigrants. It’ S that simple.
60 years ago no one in my family could buy a house. I’m not related to anyone who’s bought a house.
Jarvis I’m low on Reddit karma
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