He’s just bitter than we got Turkey twizzlers back!
Tough times to fight obesity when there are Daily reports of people starving because of Inflation.
Is it unfair to say that one of the biggest obstacles in our fight against obesity is many people simply do not know how to cook and prep meals?
Focus on making healthy options cheaper not punish people for buying what they can afford.
Also fuck Jamie Oliver.
Government strategy at the moment seems to be “let them eat cake”.
This is primarily down to education, firstly people don’t know how to cook, secondly because people’s understanding of “healthy” is wrong.
Multi-buy discounts did not make us the fattest nation in Europe.
You cannot ban your way out of an obesity crisis.
What does not help is the number of people who do not realise they are overweight/obese or who do not want to admit to it. Obesity is normalised and people are ignorant of what a healthy weight is for someone of their size. Homer Simpson was the epitome of gluttony in the 90s and he ‘only’ weighed 239lbs, yet seeing someone of that size is all too easy nowadays and many of them will think they are a healthy weight.
What all of these numpties don’t realise is that chocolates and sweets and junk food from supermarkets aren’t the problem. Its fast food places and food delivery apps.
Maybe if councils stopped handing out licences for new fast food places. A great example I’ve seen recently is evington rd in Leicester. Its in the middle of residential area and across 1/2 a mile to a mile, there are over 40 takeaways, restaurants and dessert parlours. There is no off street parking and the side roads are all terraced housing. In the evenings the number of food delivery bikes, motorbikes, scooters and cars are so bad that they climb the pavement, park in the middle of pedestrian crossing and cause chaos. And this past 6 months 3 new fast food places opened up
I like fast food and junk food as much as the next but this is crazy. Also the fees delivery apps charge are ridiculous. A friend of mine owns a takeaway and the fees range between 30-45% and they charge us service fees on top
His restaurants are garbage
TIL a lot of people seem to genuinely still hold a grudge against Jamie Oliver for forcing them to eat cheap, healthy food instead of cheap, unhealthy food. And a lot of the same people don’t see the irony in them claiming cheap, healthy food doesn’t exist.
Too much sugar, alcool and prepared meals. Once the habit is deeply ingrained it’s too late.
If they don’t address the elephants in the room of the massive profits made from grain, sugar and seed oils NOTHING will change.
The world is a miserable place at times, happiness comes from unhealthy food usually an excuse or distraction but I’ll happily munch through bags of chocolate rather than worry about bills!
Ha Ha. He thinks the government ever had a strategy..
I’m surprised one thing that hasn’t been mentioned in this thread is mental health.
Honestly, unhealthy foods contain such a dopamine hit.
I don’t think it’s a coincidence that this is probably correlating with depression levels in this country.
But I don’t think this will be addressed by this government or the Labour one. They’ll always go for easy, let’s ban it, let’s put a tax on it.
They never look at the root cause. That people are using food as an escape. As a way to have a little bit of happiness in a life full of nothingness.
I literally couldn’t give a fuck if someone is obese or not. The options and choices already exist for them not to be if they so chose. Healthy food is readily available and the internet offers an infinite wealth of knowledge to help them out of it if they wanted. Its their early grave after all. I wish the Gov’t would stop trying to nanny us.
Give me back my turkey twizzlers you jammy little Essex prick
“Chef Jamie Oliver said banning adverts was vital to protecting child health.” with the cost of living crisis and families are stressed and skint what is he expecting, they can advertise all they like but if people can’t afford it they won’t buy it. a bit like a £12 bowl of pasta from a restaurant.
the basic staple foods have increased massively in real terms already, pasta, rice etc so eat crap or starve ???? two for one on pizza and other things is actually ok afaik
but have you seen the price of apples …..
While I agree this is an issue has anyone seen Jamie Oliver recently? It’s hard to take weight advice from someone who’s quite a fatty themselves.. this is the “healthy eating guy” too smh…
it’s fine tho because now that there’s calories on w very menu, those with eating disorders just won’t eat or will eat more 🙂
I know obesity tends to be driven mostly by diet, but does anyone else find exercise classes insanely expensive? Yeah PureGym and the like aren’t too bad, but if you work good luck trying to use all the equipment you need and if you’re on a low income they might still be prohibitively expensive, but it seems like most other activities cost at least £80 – £100 for a weekly class (in London at least).
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My yoga studio is closing down because rents are too high and looking at new activities:
Pilates – £125pcm 1x class a week
Swimming (local leisure centre) – £65pcm for peak access
Fitness classes (local leisure centre) – £55pcm for peak access
Crossfit – £135pcm 2x classes a week
Pole fitness – £115pcm 5x classes a month
Yoga – £95pcm 1x class a week
Women’s weight training/fitness group – £125pcm 2x classes a week
1Rebel – £69 5x classes (1/2x classes a week presumably)
F45 – £199pcm unlimited classes
I know these things will be cheaper outside of London, but relative to local wages, are they really that much more affordable?
If we want to tackle obesity, we absolutely should encourage and facilitate healthy eating, but we need to make fitness more accessible too. I’d be in favour of subsidising fitness classes so that they’re more affordable, but also to increase the number of facilities available so that people have local options too.
Let’s focus on actually making sure Children can be fed first since the Tories are literally taking food from children’s tables as a result of the cost of living crisis
Maybe if people actually exercised enough daily this wouldn’t be an issue, I eat whatever I want and stay fit through exercise it’s not rocket science.
Ironically, our local Jamie Oliver restaurant got turned in to a McDonalds..
We really should be looking at how Japan does things. How often do you see obese Japanese people? (Outside of sumo wrestlers of course).
Another idea is to make it cheaper, and quicker, for people to get healthier options.
“Parents and kids don’t want to hear any more excuses from the government. I really hope the Prime Minister @BorisJohnson proves me wrong and shows real leadership to give young people a healthier and fairer future.” – I think Jamie Oliver has gone soft in the head or at least softer than it already was. I also think it’s pretty rich to ask for Boris Johnson who looks like a pile of mashed potato to be concerned about people’s health after letting so many die needlessly to COVID.
Not a single person wants BOGOF deals to go. We can barely afford the rising cost’s of living as it is.
What we need is better food education from primary school age up to decent food tech classes in secondary school for every child. I did food tech one term in year eight and my partner never did any in his entire secondary school time. PE as well would make more sense if it was more tailored to personal health and individual exercise and more frequent than once a week.
We need food to have actual nutritional and calorie counts for the entire thing not just the “recommended serving”, no one drinks a 500ml bottle of fizzy drink in two servings and it’s a plot to make something appear less calories than it is.
What we also need is to live in a society that puts a better emphasis on exercise and being healthy. Most people I know work 37+ hour working weeks with long commutes and don’t have time or the money to go to the gym or cooking well balanced meals.
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He’s just bitter than we got Turkey twizzlers back!
Tough times to fight obesity when there are Daily reports of people starving because of Inflation.
Is it unfair to say that one of the biggest obstacles in our fight against obesity is many people simply do not know how to cook and prep meals?
Focus on making healthy options cheaper not punish people for buying what they can afford.
Also fuck Jamie Oliver.
Government strategy at the moment seems to be “let them eat cake”.
This is primarily down to education, firstly people don’t know how to cook, secondly because people’s understanding of “healthy” is wrong.
Multi-buy discounts did not make us the fattest nation in Europe.
You cannot ban your way out of an obesity crisis.
What does not help is the number of people who do not realise they are overweight/obese or who do not want to admit to it. Obesity is normalised and people are ignorant of what a healthy weight is for someone of their size. Homer Simpson was the epitome of gluttony in the 90s and he ‘only’ weighed 239lbs, yet seeing someone of that size is all too easy nowadays and many of them will think they are a healthy weight.
What all of these numpties don’t realise is that chocolates and sweets and junk food from supermarkets aren’t the problem. Its fast food places and food delivery apps.
Maybe if councils stopped handing out licences for new fast food places. A great example I’ve seen recently is evington rd in Leicester. Its in the middle of residential area and across 1/2 a mile to a mile, there are over 40 takeaways, restaurants and dessert parlours. There is no off street parking and the side roads are all terraced housing. In the evenings the number of food delivery bikes, motorbikes, scooters and cars are so bad that they climb the pavement, park in the middle of pedestrian crossing and cause chaos. And this past 6 months 3 new fast food places opened up
I like fast food and junk food as much as the next but this is crazy. Also the fees delivery apps charge are ridiculous. A friend of mine owns a takeaway and the fees range between 30-45% and they charge us service fees on top
His restaurants are garbage
TIL a lot of people seem to genuinely still hold a grudge against Jamie Oliver for forcing them to eat cheap, healthy food instead of cheap, unhealthy food. And a lot of the same people don’t see the irony in them claiming cheap, healthy food doesn’t exist.
Too much sugar, alcool and prepared meals. Once the habit is deeply ingrained it’s too late.
If they don’t address the elephants in the room of the massive profits made from grain, sugar and seed oils NOTHING will change.
The world is a miserable place at times, happiness comes from unhealthy food usually an excuse or distraction but I’ll happily munch through bags of chocolate rather than worry about bills!
Ha Ha. He thinks the government ever had a strategy..
I’m surprised one thing that hasn’t been mentioned in this thread is mental health.
Honestly, unhealthy foods contain such a dopamine hit.
I don’t think it’s a coincidence that this is probably correlating with depression levels in this country.
But I don’t think this will be addressed by this government or the Labour one. They’ll always go for easy, let’s ban it, let’s put a tax on it.
They never look at the root cause. That people are using food as an escape. As a way to have a little bit of happiness in a life full of nothingness.
I literally couldn’t give a fuck if someone is obese or not. The options and choices already exist for them not to be if they so chose. Healthy food is readily available and the internet offers an infinite wealth of knowledge to help them out of it if they wanted. Its their early grave after all. I wish the Gov’t would stop trying to nanny us.
Give me back my turkey twizzlers you jammy little Essex prick
“Chef Jamie Oliver said banning adverts was vital to protecting child health.” with the cost of living crisis and families are stressed and skint what is he expecting, they can advertise all they like but if people can’t afford it they won’t buy it. a bit like a £12 bowl of pasta from a restaurant.
the basic staple foods have increased massively in real terms already, pasta, rice etc so eat crap or starve ???? two for one on pizza and other things is actually ok afaik
but have you seen the price of apples …..
While I agree this is an issue has anyone seen Jamie Oliver recently? It’s hard to take weight advice from someone who’s quite a fatty themselves.. this is the “healthy eating guy” too smh…
it’s fine tho because now that there’s calories on w very menu, those with eating disorders just won’t eat or will eat more 🙂
I know obesity tends to be driven mostly by diet, but does anyone else find exercise classes insanely expensive? Yeah PureGym and the like aren’t too bad, but if you work good luck trying to use all the equipment you need and if you’re on a low income they might still be prohibitively expensive, but it seems like most other activities cost at least £80 – £100 for a weekly class (in London at least).
​
My yoga studio is closing down because rents are too high and looking at new activities:
Pilates – £125pcm 1x class a week
Swimming (local leisure centre) – £65pcm for peak access
Fitness classes (local leisure centre) – £55pcm for peak access
Crossfit – £135pcm 2x classes a week
Pole fitness – £115pcm 5x classes a month
Yoga – £95pcm 1x class a week
Women’s weight training/fitness group – £125pcm 2x classes a week
1Rebel – £69 5x classes (1/2x classes a week presumably)
F45 – £199pcm unlimited classes
I know these things will be cheaper outside of London, but relative to local wages, are they really that much more affordable?
If we want to tackle obesity, we absolutely should encourage and facilitate healthy eating, but we need to make fitness more accessible too. I’d be in favour of subsidising fitness classes so that they’re more affordable, but also to increase the number of facilities available so that people have local options too.
Let’s focus on actually making sure Children can be fed first since the Tories are literally taking food from children’s tables as a result of the cost of living crisis
Maybe if people actually exercised enough daily this wouldn’t be an issue, I eat whatever I want and stay fit through exercise it’s not rocket science.
Ironically, our local Jamie Oliver restaurant got turned in to a McDonalds..
We really should be looking at how Japan does things. How often do you see obese Japanese people? (Outside of sumo wrestlers of course).
Another idea is to make it cheaper, and quicker, for people to get healthier options.
“Parents and kids don’t want to hear any more excuses from the government. I really hope the Prime Minister @BorisJohnson proves me wrong and shows real leadership to give young people a healthier and fairer future.” – I think Jamie Oliver has gone soft in the head or at least softer than it already was. I also think it’s pretty rich to ask for Boris Johnson who looks like a pile of mashed potato to be concerned about people’s health after letting so many die needlessly to COVID.
Not a single person wants BOGOF deals to go. We can barely afford the rising cost’s of living as it is.
What we need is better food education from primary school age up to decent food tech classes in secondary school for every child. I did food tech one term in year eight and my partner never did any in his entire secondary school time. PE as well would make more sense if it was more tailored to personal health and individual exercise and more frequent than once a week.
We need food to have actual nutritional and calorie counts for the entire thing not just the “recommended serving”, no one drinks a 500ml bottle of fizzy drink in two servings and it’s a plot to make something appear less calories than it is.
What we also need is to live in a society that puts a better emphasis on exercise and being healthy. Most people I know work 37+ hour working weeks with long commutes and don’t have time or the money to go to the gym or cooking well balanced meals.