
Ukraine and U.S. divided over territory after intense negotiations
https://www.axios.com/2025/12/15/ukraine-talks-zelensky-security-guarantees
Posted by Brennenstein

Ukraine and U.S. divided over territory after intense negotiations
https://www.axios.com/2025/12/15/ukraine-talks-zelensky-security-guarantees
Posted by Brennenstein
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**Submission statement:**
Negotiations between Ukraine, the US, and European officials have made headway on security assurances but remain stuck on territorial issues. The American proposal involves Ukraine withdrawing from parts of the Donbas it currently holds, which would be converted into a demilitarized economic zone. US negotiators believe they’re offering substantial security commitments and reconstruction funding, though this comes at the cost of significant land concessions. Ukrainian and European representatives were reportedly caught off guard by how much the US was willing to guarantee, as well as American confidence that Russia would accept the terms. The talks represent an attempt to forge an agreement that can then be presented to Moscow.
Ukraine has to pay the “plaza fee” to the two capos. The territory they won’t get back and how solid can those guarantees be?
The US could turn this around by unleashing all missiles and removing all restrictions on their usage. This would cause the collapse of the Russian economy in a year. Unless the AI is telling them this will lead to Nuclear war. I think they just want to sweep this under the rug and start reaping financial benefits from “peace”
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