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by pippers87

18 comments

  1. To be honest, I thought they spent a lot more than just 1 bike shed on the campaign. 

  2. No internal polling on Jim Gavin before his nomination is absolutely wild. They just went with gut feeling on a lad covered in red flags.

  4. I’m leaning towards Martin surviving this. The report seems to deflect blame away from him and he is a survivor after all having come through the FF clear out in the 2011 general election. If it came to it, he could probably make an internal deal to step down at an agreed time to avoid a civil war in the party

  6. Be surprised if anything comes out of the report besides “Jim Gavin never told us.” 

  7. THEY KNEW ABOUT HIM ROBBING A TENANT AND DIDNT CARE.

    It came up twice, according to the report. Martin telling everyone this morning that he was confident about his position. A position supporting a feeble landlord. It doesnt say, it SCREAMs.

  8. So the review confirms that Fianna Fáil *did* ask the candidate about the exact thing that later blew up the campaign… accepted “nah it’s grand” as an answer… did no polling… ignored internal warnings… spent €400k… ended up with no candidate… and then took months to publish a report saying “lessons will be learned”.

    Absolutely stunning display of professionalism. If this was a GAA club AGM it’d still be going better.

  9. Any mention of why they didn’t support Billy Kelleher?

    I’ll get a chance to read the report myself in a few days so open to all spoilers.

  10. Bye bye Micheal. Thanks for the smoking ban and for steering the country through the bad days of lockdown.

    Great at public health. Piss poor at judgement of character. A stupid GAA manager is a the ruination of you.

  11. I don’t know why people are surprised by what was known about Jim Gavin and by whom. Most politicians, particularly the most successful ones, are utter shysters and would do and say anything to suit their own agenda.

    Don’t agree with me? Just look at the numerous statements politicians make that they regularly renege on. In January 2020, Michael Martin categorically stated there would be no FFFG coalition. Within weeks that coalition government was formed.
    In 2016 he ruled Michael Lowry out of having any involvement in Government. Yet in 2024 Lowry was heavily involved in the negotiations to form the Government.

    What did Varadkar promise the cervical cancer victims?

    What did Harris promise Scoliosis sufferers?

    These were unequivocal statements at the time, not some casual vague comment.

    The Jim Gavin affair simply exposed their sleeveenism, ego & incompetence.

  12. Jim Gavin had some balls until he didn’t. Looks like he actively sought thé candidacy too.

    I mean there’s no way he forgot that solicitor’s letter about money owed and the approach to his parents by the tenant.
    Some Walter Mitty level delusion on his part to think that it wouldn’t come up again during the campaign.

    I think we swerved a bullet there.

  16. I find it really frustrating reading these paragraphs of information on the Journal website, just give us the full report and a review of what happened at the FF meeting, otherwise it’s just snippets of information that are very easy to take out of context for some headlines. 🤌

  18. If this is true, Jim Gavin has brass balls. Unbelievable that he denied any memory of it, even internally with FF, the whole way through.

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