We need more kids but children are expensive and supporting a family on one average salary is nigh impossible.
Thatcher? That was 35 years ago, who we gonna blame next? The Nazis?
This image gets uploaded once a week and I feel like it’s losing pixels each time.
How did selling council houses cause a housing crisis? The houses didn’t disappear, they merely changed ownership. The house still remains housing.
I had this conversation at work the other day with some right wingers. I said if you could wave a magic wand and retrospectively make one policy change what would make the biggest impact
No Austerity
Properly reforming the NHS
Stead House building for the last 20 years
Removing the truss budget and fixing the cost of borrowing
Or remove immigrants you think should be removed
I found that when phrased like that they really couldnt argue that removing immigrants would have the biggest effect. Clearly not the cause then is it
Long-term effects? More like generational consequences. It’s wild how history keeps shaping our present…
Immigrants do live in houses and exacerbate the housing crisis.
Immigrants work jobs and help keep working class wages low.
Bringing in over half a million net each year had no effect on housing. Who knew supply and demand wasn’t a thing
The governments screwed the country by selling off valuable and profitable assets, energy, royal mail, water,
Yep let’s ignore the conditions which led to the collapse of the labour government prior to Thatcher.
The UK’s not even in the top 50 for oldest populations. What dumbass made this meme?
Force an interest rate review and create legislation to keep it stable.
Make fire and rehire illegal
Make it more taxing for registered acting UK companies to use staff abroad for cheaper labour
Encourage or legislate working from home where possible to give workers in remote areas better opportunities (and to decrease travel costs/ emissions).
Increase national insurance but only as a directive to fund the NHS specifically. Encourage extra benefits and introduce new legislation to retrain/re-educate into the NHS.
Make legislation to discourage large companies from corporate landlordism
Make legislation for councils to have a hard set amount of houses owned by that council per area.
Make it cheaper and easier to push through new build plans
Introduce legislation to reduce tax on construction materials
But what do labour actually do?
Make porn illegal
Start misogyny courses for 11 year old boys
Increase taxes everywhere
And be silent on every other matter
Labour is the problem. Conservatives were the problem.
Reform will be the problem.
We have a growing festering greed, funded and contributed by shareholders and billionaires and it’s only getting worse.
Until that problem is addressed, all first world countries will face the same issues.
But they want you to blame immigrants. So you do you.
The problem is not that people bought their council homes it’s that not enough new ones have been built
One weird trick theory of Britain, everything bad is either Margaret Thatcher (still somehow in office 35 years later) or the unstoppable crime of time passing. Housing collapsed because of Right to Buy alone, jobs vanished because unions died once, and the NHS is struggling purely because people inconveniently refuse to die younger. Apparently demand magically increased, supply mysteriously froze, wages politely stagnated for decades, and governments of every colour since 1990 were just helpless spectators. It’s not an analysis it’s a nostalgia based fanfic where history stopped in 1987 and nothing since has required adult thought.
How about we talk about all the benefits of Brexit… That’s gone great and someone painted by local roundabout recently… Rule Britannia!!!
But they are not helping the housing crisis are they ?
How dumb to you have to be to deny a link between importing thousands of people and a housing short fall ?
It’s this and immigration. They both exist simultaneously.
Remember when Nigel Farage told everyone that the NHS would get an extra £350,000,000 a week if they voted out of the EU? All that money must be doing a world of good!!!
Does this sub even know what a meme is anymore?
So many posts are just low effort political propaganda and anti-Reform slop. Do you lot not get bored of it?
Literally nobody is blaming illegal migrants for those things 🤷
Millions more people in the country = naturally more strain on services and housing. Everyone needs healthcare and a place to live. It isn’t rocket science that if the population increases faster than the expansion of housing and services, they will become more strained and expensive as a result.
“Immigrants are contributing to the housing and NHS crisis” and “Thatcher’s actions contributed to the housing crisis and our ageing population is contributing to the NHS crisis” are not mutually exclusive statements. They’re both true at the same time, and are both parts of two very wide and complex issues. Boiling them down to binary absolutes for political point scoring serves nobody.
Classic. Uncontrolled mass migration has caused no problems and everything is thatchers fault.
The critical thinking of a goldfish.
Also having worked in the NHS for a few years now, I can tell you that it’s beyond fucked. Like at every single level the whole thing is riddled with problems.
Oh this post again. Must be a day ending in Y.
You realise it can be both? Since that time we’ve had over 9 million immigrants into the country, 2 million houses aren’t going to be anywhere near enough, also that amount of people when your current population is only around 70 million is a massive drain on your services, yes stats show more are taking not giving.
So both things are true, Thatcher caused huge damage to the county, Blair then piled extra damage on and Boris was trying to hammer the final nails in.
Anyone who believes it’s normal people causing the problems is delusional it’s the elites and the politicians causing all the issues.
Labour have brought immigration down to Blair levels (still way too fucking high) but it’s under a quarter of what it was under Boris, they are deporting people and they’re not fucking over the NHS, quite the opposite. Yes starmer has made some huge fuck ups, in general he’s doing an ok job and I’ll take an ok job over the cunts we’ve had for the past few decadesÂ
The meme is true but this is just a karma farm. This gets reposted all the time to this sub with the same thinking emoji caption. Seriously.
The sentiment expressed in this image is obviously correct.
But the reality on the ground is that asylum seekers are put into communities that can’t afford to support them (imagine the outcry if they housed asylum seekers in well-to-do, expensive, areas), and they do create pressure on already-underfunded public services for people in desperate need of them.
There is the ‘correct’ response such as the one in the image above, where poor people in the UK should be allies of asylum seekers – completely true – and it is billionaires and capitalism that is the problem. And there is the actual response (that people whose experience has shown them what is going to happen in reality – i.e. they are going to get slammed again, and there will little or no unity amongst poor people of different cultures) that people like reform UK exploit.
If you don’t help poor, former working class, people in the UK who were effectively disenfranchised when Labour became Red Tory under Blair, you can’t help people from outside without a backlash. Climate change is going to make current immigration look like a picnic. The unpalatable reality is that the door IS going to be closed at some point. Deal with the reality of the situation on the ground rather than idealism, or expect fascism to grow in response and be prepared to deal with that.
how usually most of problem of a people are the rich never the poor
Time for the daily repost, is it?
You forgot to add that there is anaemic economic growth in the UK, one of the lowest worker productivity measured, and no salary growth since 2008.
You think flooding the country with more people doesn’t have any effect on NHS waiting times and the rising cost of rent? Are you stupid?
This meme does my head in because everything it says is true yet it completely misses the point. For the sake of this argument take what this meme says as correct – what sense does it make opening a country with a broken infrastructure up to mass migration? The creaking system would magically start working once it became overloaded?
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Proving once again that the left can’t meme
We need more kids but children are expensive and supporting a family on one average salary is nigh impossible.
Thatcher? That was 35 years ago, who we gonna blame next? The Nazis?
This image gets uploaded once a week and I feel like it’s losing pixels each time.
How did selling council houses cause a housing crisis? The houses didn’t disappear, they merely changed ownership. The house still remains housing.
I had this conversation at work the other day with some right wingers. I said if you could wave a magic wand and retrospectively make one policy change what would make the biggest impact
No Austerity
Properly reforming the NHS
Stead House building for the last 20 years
Removing the truss budget and fixing the cost of borrowing
Or remove immigrants you think should be removed
I found that when phrased like that they really couldnt argue that removing immigrants would have the biggest effect. Clearly not the cause then is it
Long-term effects? More like generational consequences. It’s wild how history keeps shaping our present…
Immigrants do live in houses and exacerbate the housing crisis.
Immigrants work jobs and help keep working class wages low.
Bringing in over half a million net each year had no effect on housing. Who knew supply and demand wasn’t a thing
The governments screwed the country by selling off valuable and profitable assets, energy, royal mail, water,
Yep let’s ignore the conditions which led to the collapse of the labour government prior to Thatcher.
The UK’s not even in the top 50 for oldest populations. What dumbass made this meme?
worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/oldest-people
Gerontocracy
Options:
Force an interest rate review and create legislation to keep it stable.
Make fire and rehire illegal
Make it more taxing for registered acting UK companies to use staff abroad for cheaper labour
Encourage or legislate working from home where possible to give workers in remote areas better opportunities (and to decrease travel costs/ emissions).
Increase national insurance but only as a directive to fund the NHS specifically. Encourage extra benefits and introduce new legislation to retrain/re-educate into the NHS.
Make legislation to discourage large companies from corporate landlordism
Make legislation for councils to have a hard set amount of houses owned by that council per area.
Make it cheaper and easier to push through new build plans
Introduce legislation to reduce tax on construction materials
But what do labour actually do?
Make porn illegal
Start misogyny courses for 11 year old boys
Increase taxes everywhere
And be silent on every other matter
Labour is the problem. Conservatives were the problem.
Reform will be the problem.
We have a growing festering greed, funded and contributed by shareholders and billionaires and it’s only getting worse.
Until that problem is addressed, all first world countries will face the same issues.
But they want you to blame immigrants. So you do you.
The problem is not that people bought their council homes it’s that not enough new ones have been built
One weird trick theory of Britain, everything bad is either Margaret Thatcher (still somehow in office 35 years later) or the unstoppable crime of time passing. Housing collapsed because of Right to Buy alone, jobs vanished because unions died once, and the NHS is struggling purely because people inconveniently refuse to die younger. Apparently demand magically increased, supply mysteriously froze, wages politely stagnated for decades, and governments of every colour since 1990 were just helpless spectators. It’s not an analysis it’s a nostalgia based fanfic where history stopped in 1987 and nothing since has required adult thought.
How about we talk about all the benefits of Brexit… That’s gone great and someone painted by local roundabout recently… Rule Britannia!!!
But they are not helping the housing crisis are they ?
How dumb to you have to be to deny a link between importing thousands of people and a housing short fall ?
It’s this and immigration. They both exist simultaneously.
Remember when Nigel Farage told everyone that the NHS would get an extra £350,000,000 a week if they voted out of the EU? All that money must be doing a world of good!!!
Does this sub even know what a meme is anymore?
So many posts are just low effort political propaganda and anti-Reform slop. Do you lot not get bored of it?
Literally nobody is blaming illegal migrants for those things 🤷
Millions more people in the country = naturally more strain on services and housing. Everyone needs healthcare and a place to live. It isn’t rocket science that if the population increases faster than the expansion of housing and services, they will become more strained and expensive as a result.
“Immigrants are contributing to the housing and NHS crisis” and “Thatcher’s actions contributed to the housing crisis and our ageing population is contributing to the NHS crisis” are not mutually exclusive statements. They’re both true at the same time, and are both parts of two very wide and complex issues. Boiling them down to binary absolutes for political point scoring serves nobody.
Classic. Uncontrolled mass migration has caused no problems and everything is thatchers fault.
The critical thinking of a goldfish.
Also having worked in the NHS for a few years now, I can tell you that it’s beyond fucked. Like at every single level the whole thing is riddled with problems.
Oh this post again. Must be a day ending in Y.
You realise it can be both? Since that time we’ve had over 9 million immigrants into the country, 2 million houses aren’t going to be anywhere near enough, also that amount of people when your current population is only around 70 million is a massive drain on your services, yes stats show more are taking not giving.
So both things are true, Thatcher caused huge damage to the county, Blair then piled extra damage on and Boris was trying to hammer the final nails in.
Anyone who believes it’s normal people causing the problems is delusional it’s the elites and the politicians causing all the issues.
Labour have brought immigration down to Blair levels (still way too fucking high) but it’s under a quarter of what it was under Boris, they are deporting people and they’re not fucking over the NHS, quite the opposite. Yes starmer has made some huge fuck ups, in general he’s doing an ok job and I’ll take an ok job over the cunts we’ve had for the past few decadesÂ
The meme is true but this is just a karma farm. This gets reposted all the time to this sub with the same thinking emoji caption. Seriously.
The sentiment expressed in this image is obviously correct.
But the reality on the ground is that asylum seekers are put into communities that can’t afford to support them (imagine the outcry if they housed asylum seekers in well-to-do, expensive, areas), and they do create pressure on already-underfunded public services for people in desperate need of them.
There is the ‘correct’ response such as the one in the image above, where poor people in the UK should be allies of asylum seekers – completely true – and it is billionaires and capitalism that is the problem. And there is the actual response (that people whose experience has shown them what is going to happen in reality – i.e. they are going to get slammed again, and there will little or no unity amongst poor people of different cultures) that people like reform UK exploit.
If you don’t help poor, former working class, people in the UK who were effectively disenfranchised when Labour became Red Tory under Blair, you can’t help people from outside without a backlash. Climate change is going to make current immigration look like a picnic. The unpalatable reality is that the door IS going to be closed at some point. Deal with the reality of the situation on the ground rather than idealism, or expect fascism to grow in response and be prepared to deal with that.
how usually most of problem of a people are the rich never the poor
Time for the daily repost, is it?
You forgot to add that there is anaemic economic growth in the UK, one of the lowest worker productivity measured, and no salary growth since 2008.
You think flooding the country with more people doesn’t have any effect on NHS waiting times and the rising cost of rent? Are you stupid?
This meme does my head in because everything it says is true yet it completely misses the point. For the sake of this argument take what this meme says as correct – what sense does it make opening a country with a broken infrastructure up to mass migration? The creaking system would magically start working once it became overloaded?
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