Democrats Float Impeachment After Justice Department’s Redaction-Heavy Epstein Release

https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/jeffrey-epstein-files-doj-21253001.php

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  1. Stop floating get the hell down here to reality and start doing something.

  2. Saw this coming. It’s why they had so many agents so busy

  3. Well it was obvious it was going to happen, but are they gonna follow up on this heavy redaction?

  4. If you can’t prove Trump didn’t rape kids, then he raped kids. This shouldn’t be hard. Fucking morons making him look even more guilty (because he is).

  5. I don’t even understand the point of a release if they are just going to redact it.

  6. Until the masses are in the streets demanding it, all we will get is strongly worded letters and furoughed brows. I don’t know how to organize. Where are the organizers at? Let’s get in the streets and demand accountability.

  7. I think they have 15 days to explain their redactions. If so, I would rather them just shut up and not make empty threats.

  8. All this fucking covering it all up after RUNNING HIS CAMPAIGN on releasing them.

  9. Redaction heavy is an understatement, they may have well just coated every page in black paint

  10. Be careful with that floating, guys. It might turn into a suggestion!

  11. We need less floating and more actually fucking doing something.

  12. Some Snowden-level whistleblower has to leak the unadulterated files. At this point, it’s the only way we’re going to know the truth.

  13. No matter what kind of incriminating evidence emerges, Trump’s supporters and allies will only continue to deny his deep connections to Epstein and his desperate efforts to sweep this scandal under the rug.

    Before Trump’s sudden and suspicious reversal, the Trump admin, the DOJ and Republicans in Congress, were all running interference for Trump; delaying votes; using the shutdown to obstruct the release of materials; suppressing information and diverting attention away from his close ties to the world’s most notorious child sex trafficker.

    This includes trying to manufacture “treasonous” charges against Obama while Trump’s deputy AG (and former personal lawyer) orchestrated a cover up with Ghislaine Maxwell by offering her limited immunity/clemency to facilitate her cooperation with the government.

    Trump even sued the WSJ for releasing the birthday letter:

    > The letter concludes: “Happy Birthday — and may every day be another wonderful secret.”

    Fox News deliberately edited Trump’s response during an interview when he was asked if he would release the “Epstein client list.”

    > “Yeah, I think we should release it. People deserve to know.”

    Fox left out his follow up:

    > “But you have to understand, there’s a lot of lies in that list. A lot of names that shouldn’t be there. You don’t want to ruin innocent lives.”

    Even outside of the Epstein controversy, Trump has been accused of sexual abuse, harassment or rape by dozens of women dating back to the 70s—particularly those on the “younger side.”

    Former Miss ***teen*** USA contestants claimed that Trump would unexpectedly walk into their dressing rooms. One of the girls claimed that she remembers Trump saying, “*Don’t worry ladies, I’ve seen it all before.”* The youngest was 15 at the time.

    Judge Kaplan clarified that the jury’s findings in the E Jean Carroll case align with the common understanding of rape. Meaning Trump was found by a jury to have raped E Jean Carroll.

    Then there’s the case involving the plaintiff “Katie Johnson”, filed multiple times in 2016.

    The accuser was set to appear at a news conference later that year, but her attorney said she had been receiving death threats and was too afraid to attend.

    The case alleges that both Trump and Epstein made the plaintiff into a “sex slave” at the age of 13.

    Don’t forget the recent batch of emails and documents obtained and released by Democrats:

    Epstein to Ghislaine Maxwell:

    > “I want you to realize that that dog that hasn’t barked is Trump. [Victim] spent hours at my house with him … he has never once been mentioned.”

    Maxwell replied: “I have been thinking about that…”

    This email was sent after Epstein was released from jail. It suggests that Trump had close contact with a victim.

    Epstein to Michael Wolff:

    > “Of course he knew about the girls as he asked Ghislaine to stop.”

    The same Ghislaine that Trump expressed sympathy for during a press conference after she was arrested in 2020:

    > “I just wish her well, frankly. I’ve met her numerous times over the years, especially since I lived in Palm Beach, and I guess they lived in Palm Beach. But I wish her well, whatever it is.”

    This message obviously implies that Trump knew about the abuse.

    The White House still maintains the narrative that Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar-a-Lago out of a sense of altruism and sympathy for the victims.

    But It’s already been revealed by Trump himself that their supposed falling out was centered around Epstein “poaching” his staff. Trump indicated that he was more concerned about losing these young girls than the fact that they were being trafficked and abused by Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell at the time.

    In another email, Wolff told Epstein that CNN might ask Trump about their relationship. Epstein asked if they should prepare a response. Wolff replied:

    > “Let him hang himself… If he says he hasn’t been on the plane or to the house, then that gives you valuable PR and political currency.”

    In other words, *blackmail.*

    Epstein on Trump:

    > “You see, I know how dirty Donald is. My guess is that non-lawyers and NY biz people have no idea what it means to have your fixer flip.”

    This email depicts Trump as compromised and suggests that Epstein had some knowledge of Trump’s corruption and legal problems.

    More on Trump during his political rise:

    > “You can hang him in a way that potentially generates a positive benefit for you, or… you could save him, generating a debt.”

    This reveals that Epstein had leverage over Trump, and wanted to use Trump’s rise to power to his own ends.

    Trump of course has called the emails another democratic “hoax” and even demanded at the time that Republicans not authorize or support any further disclosures. Surely the pleas of an innocent man.

    And it should be noted that Donald Trump waited till Epstein’s arrest and death in 2019 to publicly state he was not a “fan” of him.

    Trump and Epstein had a very close, friendly and social relationship starting in the late 80s. They were both prominent figures in Palm Beach, Florida, where they were often seen together at social events and parties. Photos and videos show the two together at Mar-a-Lago.

    In an interview in 2002, Trump said of Epstein:

    > “I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.”

    In 2005, police searched Epstein’s Mansion and found message books containing Trump’s name and number.

    Virginia Guiffre, one of Epstein’s most vocal accusers, claimed that she was recruited into Epstein’s sex trafficking ring while working at Mar-a-Lago. Giuffre sadly “died by suicide” back in April.

    Maria Farmer, another reported Epstein victim, went to police twice back in the 90s to complain about Epstein’s sexual abuse of girls. She brought up Trump’s name because of his close ties to Epstein and after an encounter with Trump at Epstein’s New York office:

    > Mr. Trump then arrived, wearing a business suit, and started to hover over her.

    > Ms. Farmer said she recalled feeling scared as Mr. Trump stared at her bare legs. Then Mr. Epstein entered the room, and she recalled him saying to Mr. Trump: “No, no. She’s not here for you.”

    According to flight logs released during Ghislaine Maxwell’s trial, Trump has flown on the “Lolita Express” at least seven times.

    Michael Wolff also had insider access to Trump and the White House and claims that Trump once considered a pardon for Maxwell because he was worried that she might “spill secrets.”

    On his podcast, Wolff stated that Epstein once showed him photographs of Trump at Epstein’s Palm Beach mansion lounging around the pool with topless young girls—some of them sitting in Trump’s lap.

    Wolff described Trump and Epstein as “joined at the hip” for nearly 15 years. They even shared the same “young women.”

  14. The congressional GOP could honestly be receptive to an impeachment of Pam Bondi. MAGA seems to think she’s some “deep state plant” now.

  15. “Redaction-heavy”? You mean 100s of pages that are just literally black? Not even a comma present

  16. There’s been 3 impeachment attempts this year already, which is shockingly low to be honest lol

  17. This release is a joke, just endless pages of redactions. If anything it makes it pretty obvious this is a coverup and Trump is in these files pretty frequently. This country is hard to be proud of protecting elite pedophiles.

  18. And this is why Johnson sent congress home early, he was told ahead of time they were hustling releasing blank pages. . The corruption is so blatant. 

  19. I’m actually surprised they haven’t just destroyed the files. Honestly the story would die in a few weeks and it’s not like anyone would hold them legally accountable. I doubt the dnc leadership would even fight them on it since trump isn’t a leftist.

  20. I’ll share this till yall are sick of seeing it.

    joseph schnitt. Share his name around. He works in the DOJ. Was caught 6 months ago on camera confirming the DoJ would redact trumps name and leave in the Dems.

  21. Heavily redacted?

    Not only did printers run out of ink but also faxes, sharpies, and HEX #000000.

  22. Your country will be remembered for electing pedophiles and rapists. No one will respect America ever again 🤣

  23. He’s already been impeached. And what did that accomplish? Jack shit. He needs to be removed, indicted, convicted and imprisoned.

  24. The first two impeachments did fuck-all.

    The third will be equally effective.

  25. What other conclusion is left for reasonable people to draw when the documents are THAT heavily redacted. Other than the fact that he must have been involved in some truly heinous shit.

  26. Honestly, they shouldn’t need to float impeachment for anybody on this one. A better path forward would be demanding prosecution for contempt of congress. 

    That would lead to two possible outcomes:

    1. Bondi throws some schlubs (patel among 5hem) under the bus, which would mean that she didn’t have a sense of what was really going on, or

    2. the Department of Justice refuses to prosecute creating political blowback among the magnanauts who actually are on board because of the whole qanon sex trafficking gibberish.

    One of the advantages of 1. is that it opens up questions about who directed the sacrificial Lambs that Bondi will toss out there to obscure so much information. And that will also create friction with the qanon crowd.

    Remember that people tend to view impeachment as political theater, which in this case it absolutely is because there is not a chance in hell that the Senate would convict. But demands for prosecution which run up against the Trump Administration itself would be viewed as pure obstruction by the Trump team, not grandstanding by the left.

  27. “democrats float sending a sternly worded letter”

    Useless.

  28. And then they will flog them with a soggy lettuce leaf! This is an epic battle between bunch of useless morons and a criminal gang.

  29. It just makes Republicans defend Trump even more. When backed into a corner, they unite in solidarity and dismiss any claims because they think it’s just fake news from liberals.

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