It really, really, really is not a good look that a couple of septuagenarians are so easily outworking a man in his 40s at his prime. Kate is understandable, but William? It is truly inexcusable.
How is it respectful to be last when she’s paid so much to do the job? If a cancer stricken 70-something year old can manage…
Respectably? Nah.
I wish they would do a better job differentiating what is an engagement.
There are, roughly, 250 working days in a year (setting aside 2 measles weeks for vacation). When we see William at events they seem to be longer events. Full day. Doing 532 events means Charles isn’t spending quality time at the events, he’s just showing up. Which, nothing wrong with that but we regularly see photos and/or videos of William and Catherine putting real effort into connecting with people.
Now, is Charles working 250 days a year and counting morning and afternoon at the same organization as separate events? That’s fine if he is but it’s not realistic to say he’s doing 2-3 events every single day of the year and expecting us to believe he’s doing anything more than a wave. That would be exhausting and overwhelming for even the healthiest of young people, he’s 70+ and recovering from cancer treatments.
I think the royal generations have very different styles and each has its strengths.
Fred and Mary are always near the bottom of the list when you look at European royals and they’re super popular so there might be a correct theory here that doing too much is risky PR wise
The numbers speak volumes
Here’s how I look at it: Charles is old, and won’t live forever. It’s good for him to be out and about as much as possible so people who want to see him, can while he’s still around. William has decades to go and I’m sure will pick up the pace as his father ages and people will have plenty of chances to see and meet him in the coming years. People would lose their minds and the tabloids would be announcing his imminent death every day if Charles slowed down after his diagnosis and William suddenly stepped up. And I’m also old enough to remember how much Charles disliked being overshadowed at public appearances by his beautiful and popular wife Diana.
All of these lists are subjectively tabulated and I’m definitely not trusting The Mirror to be an unbiased source of information.
He’s in his 70s and in active cancer treatment. Very impressive. Shame on William. There’s no excuse at this point.
How many people and which subset of people?
Charles, before he became king, always had consistently high numbers, usually coming in behind Anne and the Queen. It’s really impressive to see his numbers increasing since then, especially given his age and the fact that he’s in treatment for cancer. His work ethic is excellent.
Honestly, seeing William and Kate’s numbers laid out like that is so disappointing. Kate obviously has good reason for the low numbers but even before her cancer diagnosis she’s never had good numbers. But William – at this stage – has no excuse and it’s just embarrassing tbh. He should have stepped up more, especially once Kate announced she was in remission.
Not surprised to see Edward and Sophie up so high too. They’ve been amazing this year, basically doing the job that William and Kate should be doing. The more I see of both of them in engagements, the more I like them. They both seem very normal, especially for the brf
Yeah. This will get me down voted to death but I just gotta say: I think a good amount of the time W&K use the children as an excuse use to do not a whole lot.
The kids are in school most of the time. They have Nanny Maria and News flash! Parents work. They have a job and go to it every day.
W&K are getting paid very very well (ultimately by the British public) to do regular Royal Work not be Affluent parents who need require vacations and who show up when they feel like it.
I reeling like Kate and William but they are work shy. Obviously Kate needed time off this year and last but I don’t understand why they both need to take off the entirety of all their children’s breaks, including some spring breaks that are3-4 weeks. Can’t they do 1-2 engagements during that time? You can still be committed parents and work, I’m baffled quite honestly.
In Spare, Harry confirms that their is guidance re: not outshining the senior royals.
Just, ify, one engagement is not equal to one 8-hour work day. Sometimes they’re less than an hour long. And depending on the methodology here it can include phone calls, Ascot, Wimbledon, and behind the scenes meetings.
They are all playing in your faces. If you have a full time job you are easily out working Charles, regardless of how important his duties are, let alone Catherine.
EDIT: Also, I really am sick of the excuses for Kate when she’s being outworked by the Duke of Kent, who has one foot in the grave and lost his wife this year.
To the actual normal people with real jobs, pat yourselves on the back. Kudos to you. The ones doing 8-12 hour days, day in day out. Working while tired, sick, burned out, some with chronic illness and still can’t afford to take time off coz bills don’t wait. That’s just being human and responsible. Be very, very proud of yourselves.
Meanwhile these people on the graph? Their ‘work’ is literally just showing face, smiling, shaking hands then go home. And somehow we’re supposed to clap like it’s a huge sacrifice. Spare me the royalist excuses pls. If that’s labour, the rest of us are doing extreme mode just to survive.
And honestly nothing here convince me William and Catherine gonna be better monarchs or show the previous ones how it’s done. By the looks of it, it’s just same old thing. Less work, better PR and people bending over backwards to defend it.
Also shame on them, when Charles is the one old and frail and on active cancer treatment yet somehow still doing more than people half his age. That alone should tell you everything.
Anne my beloved. Still going strong.
William and Catherine’s numbers are so embarrassing.
This all seems so subjective to me. Also, it doesn’t take quality over quantity into account. I don’t care how much they do; I care what they do and how meaningful it is. I’m more interested in hearing about the various projects each has done them some arbitrary number.
I don’t understand the purpose of counting public engagements.
Part of why Charles and Anne have the highest numbers is because they also have the most patronages as befitting their seniority in the royal family. The numbers quickly add up when you have hundreds of patronages you’re meeting regularly. A quick Google search shows Charles apparently has 600+ patronages, and Anne has 300+. In contrast, William has about 30 and Kate has around 20.Â
Same for Sophie and Edward. For a long time now they’ve been the go-to representatives of the royal family for a lot of international events. It’s natural that they be the ones being asked to continue doing it. Sophie has done several international visits this year. Edward also took on the patronages that Philip had as Duke of Edinburgh.Â
But William should be more active, the Duke of Gloucester is out working him!
I wonder if these patronages will keep having a royal patron once someone like Anne retires and the royal family is further slimmed down. Kate only became patron of Wimbledon when the Duke of Kent “gave up” the position, so patronages can either be passed on to another royal but only upon the patron’s ‘retirement’, or the patronages will lose a royal patron. In the future, it will only be William, Kate, George, and possibly Charlotte and Louis in the royal family. I doubt they can or will take on ALL of the patronages from Charles, Camilla, Anne, Edward, Sophie, the Duke of Kent, and the Gloucesters. There’s no way William will reach the same numbers Charles has been doing for decades.Â
Why is Kate Princess of Wales but William isn’t Prince of Wales?
While it’s understandable for Catherine, she’s recovering from cancer after all and still has three children, with 2 of them being rather young still, William doesn’t seem to be working the way his position might require it. He is first in line to the throne, after all.
Yikes the Waleses’ numbers are embarrassing. I know Kate had had a rough couple of years but I dont think she ever got above 130 even before 2024. William’s numbers are just pitiful regardless of year. They, and especially William, need to do better.
William’s numbers are inexcusable
That’s just pathetic of the Waleses
What I find interesting is how much I read about what a terrible mother Elizabeth was – went months not even seeing her kids and there was apparently little affection given (except for Andrew – who was spoiled rotten). Now I see Kate (especially) putting her kids first- and she is condemned for that. Personally, I would rather have her raise decent human beings (unlike certain members of the BRF) then spend all her time shaking hands and visiting non-profits. We should track all their money and investments (which was continually stymied by QE2), stop subsidizing them by millions and let them be a family and show up for a few major events.
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That’s Patricia Treble’s count and they have Kate at 68 not 43, I guess whoever made the graph got the numbers mixed with her age
It really, really, really is not a good look that a couple of septuagenarians are so easily outworking a man in his 40s at his prime. Kate is understandable, but William? It is truly inexcusable.
How is it respectful to be last when she’s paid so much to do the job? If a cancer stricken 70-something year old can manage…
Respectably? Nah.
I wish they would do a better job differentiating what is an engagement.
There are, roughly, 250 working days in a year (setting aside 2 measles weeks for vacation). When we see William at events they seem to be longer events. Full day. Doing 532 events means Charles isn’t spending quality time at the events, he’s just showing up. Which, nothing wrong with that but we regularly see photos and/or videos of William and Catherine putting real effort into connecting with people.
Now, is Charles working 250 days a year and counting morning and afternoon at the same organization as separate events? That’s fine if he is but it’s not realistic to say he’s doing 2-3 events every single day of the year and expecting us to believe he’s doing anything more than a wave. That would be exhausting and overwhelming for even the healthiest of young people, he’s 70+ and recovering from cancer treatments.
I think the royal generations have very different styles and each has its strengths.
Both William and Kate’s no. of engagements are wrong. Kate did around 78-80 engagements this year not 43. William did around 207 (as compared to 166 engagements in 2024) . You can see the breakdown here https://officeofindie.blogspot.com/2025/12/engagements-prince-of-walessolo.html?m=1
Fred and Mary are always near the bottom of the list when you look at European royals and they’re super popular so there might be a correct theory here that doing too much is risky PR wise
The numbers speak volumes
Here’s how I look at it: Charles is old, and won’t live forever. It’s good for him to be out and about as much as possible so people who want to see him, can while he’s still around. William has decades to go and I’m sure will pick up the pace as his father ages and people will have plenty of chances to see and meet him in the coming years. People would lose their minds and the tabloids would be announcing his imminent death every day if Charles slowed down after his diagnosis and William suddenly stepped up. And I’m also old enough to remember how much Charles disliked being overshadowed at public appearances by his beautiful and popular wife Diana.
All of these lists are subjectively tabulated and I’m definitely not trusting The Mirror to be an unbiased source of information.
He’s in his 70s and in active cancer treatment. Very impressive. Shame on William. There’s no excuse at this point.
How many people and which subset of people?
Charles, before he became king, always had consistently high numbers, usually coming in behind Anne and the Queen. It’s really impressive to see his numbers increasing since then, especially given his age and the fact that he’s in treatment for cancer. His work ethic is excellent.
Honestly, seeing William and Kate’s numbers laid out like that is so disappointing. Kate obviously has good reason for the low numbers but even before her cancer diagnosis she’s never had good numbers. But William – at this stage – has no excuse and it’s just embarrassing tbh. He should have stepped up more, especially once Kate announced she was in remission.
Not surprised to see Edward and Sophie up so high too. They’ve been amazing this year, basically doing the job that William and Kate should be doing. The more I see of both of them in engagements, the more I like them. They both seem very normal, especially for the brf
Yeah. This will get me down voted to death but I just gotta say: I think a good amount of the time W&K use the children as an excuse use to do not a whole lot.
The kids are in school most of the time. They have Nanny Maria and News flash! Parents work. They have a job and go to it every day.
W&K are getting paid very very well (ultimately by the British public) to do regular Royal Work not be Affluent parents who need require vacations and who show up when they feel like it.
I reeling like Kate and William but they are work shy. Obviously Kate needed time off this year and last but I don’t understand why they both need to take off the entirety of all their children’s breaks, including some spring breaks that are3-4 weeks. Can’t they do 1-2 engagements during that time? You can still be committed parents and work, I’m baffled quite honestly.
In Spare, Harry confirms that their is guidance re: not outshining the senior royals.
Just, ify, one engagement is not equal to one 8-hour work day. Sometimes they’re less than an hour long. And depending on the methodology here it can include phone calls, Ascot, Wimbledon, and behind the scenes meetings.
They are all playing in your faces. If you have a full time job you are easily out working Charles, regardless of how important his duties are, let alone Catherine.
EDIT: Also, I really am sick of the excuses for Kate when she’s being outworked by the Duke of Kent, who has one foot in the grave and lost his wife this year.
To the actual normal people with real jobs, pat yourselves on the back. Kudos to you. The ones doing 8-12 hour days, day in day out. Working while tired, sick, burned out, some with chronic illness and still can’t afford to take time off coz bills don’t wait. That’s just being human and responsible. Be very, very proud of yourselves.
Meanwhile these people on the graph? Their ‘work’ is literally just showing face, smiling, shaking hands then go home. And somehow we’re supposed to clap like it’s a huge sacrifice. Spare me the royalist excuses pls. If that’s labour, the rest of us are doing extreme mode just to survive.
And honestly nothing here convince me William and Catherine gonna be better monarchs or show the previous ones how it’s done. By the looks of it, it’s just same old thing. Less work, better PR and people bending over backwards to defend it.
Also shame on them, when Charles is the one old and frail and on active cancer treatment yet somehow still doing more than people half his age. That alone should tell you everything.
Anne my beloved. Still going strong.
William and Catherine’s numbers are so embarrassing.
This all seems so subjective to me. Also, it doesn’t take quality over quantity into account. I don’t care how much they do; I care what they do and how meaningful it is. I’m more interested in hearing about the various projects each has done them some arbitrary number.
I don’t understand the purpose of counting public engagements.
Part of why Charles and Anne have the highest numbers is because they also have the most patronages as befitting their seniority in the royal family. The numbers quickly add up when you have hundreds of patronages you’re meeting regularly. A quick Google search shows Charles apparently has 600+ patronages, and Anne has 300+. In contrast, William has about 30 and Kate has around 20.Â
Same for Sophie and Edward. For a long time now they’ve been the go-to representatives of the royal family for a lot of international events. It’s natural that they be the ones being asked to continue doing it. Sophie has done several international visits this year. Edward also took on the patronages that Philip had as Duke of Edinburgh.Â
But William should be more active, the Duke of Gloucester is out working him!
I wonder if these patronages will keep having a royal patron once someone like Anne retires and the royal family is further slimmed down. Kate only became patron of Wimbledon when the Duke of Kent “gave up” the position, so patronages can either be passed on to another royal but only upon the patron’s ‘retirement’, or the patronages will lose a royal patron. In the future, it will only be William, Kate, George, and possibly Charlotte and Louis in the royal family. I doubt they can or will take on ALL of the patronages from Charles, Camilla, Anne, Edward, Sophie, the Duke of Kent, and the Gloucesters. There’s no way William will reach the same numbers Charles has been doing for decades.Â
Why is Kate Princess of Wales but William isn’t Prince of Wales?
While it’s understandable for Catherine, she’s recovering from cancer after all and still has three children, with 2 of them being rather young still, William doesn’t seem to be working the way his position might require it. He is first in line to the throne, after all.
Yikes the Waleses’ numbers are embarrassing. I know Kate had had a rough couple of years but I dont think she ever got above 130 even before 2024. William’s numbers are just pitiful regardless of year. They, and especially William, need to do better.
William’s numbers are inexcusable
That’s just pathetic of the Waleses
What I find interesting is how much I read about what a terrible mother Elizabeth was – went months not even seeing her kids and there was apparently little affection given (except for Andrew – who was spoiled rotten). Now I see Kate (especially) putting her kids first- and she is condemned for that. Personally, I would rather have her raise decent human beings (unlike certain members of the BRF) then spend all her time shaking hands and visiting non-profits. We should track all their money and investments (which was continually stymied by QE2), stop subsidizing them by millions and let them be a family and show up for a few major events.
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