I’m pro union (red) but if Farage gets in then my vote could be swayed 100%. I hate that POS.
Bad news for Swinney and the SNP, then.
nothing like a bit of the old fasc to give ye the ick.
Like others have said, who is in No 10 should have little or no bearing. We need to focus on argument, policy and why Indy is a better long-term option than slowly sliding down the tubes with the Union.
I can understand people being against independence for currency reasons or potential trade/border issues, and a lack of belief that it could be resolved easily without negative consequences, but none of that changes with Farage as PM. I don’t really get why the threat of Farage as PM isn’t enough but the reality would be. Unless Farage doesn’t get mentioned until after support for independence has been polled.
It makes me think these aren’t really reliable polls.
Im surprised that low.
On the otherhand, if Farage becomes PM, he’s going to be a problem for the world, including a potential independent Scotland
thats because we would have a Reform-led England trying to tell a SNP-led Scotland what to do. When Reform do badly in Scotland , and once we stop laughing at them , we would have a constitutional crisis on our hands & a huge boost for independence 🏴
Been saying it a lot longer than these articles and getting all the hate for it.
Fuck Fartage.
Once again, a Poll.
I saw Farage’s thugs take over an intersection on the news a few months back. England flags everywhere. They were stopping the cars and pulling out the foreigners for a beating.
Being White Scottish, I’m not too sure what would happen to me if I drove through, was stopped, and they heard my accent. 50/50
Crazy that 40% of people would still rather stay….
I’m one of those who would never have voted in favour of independence, but a Farage government may be the tipping point.
Okay, so they’ve weighted it now? Either way, as sympathetic as I am to the suggestion that “a government is for five years, indy is forever, don’t make a rash decision”, one of the strongest driving forces for my supporting independence is that the Westminster style of governance is like a ratchet only leading one way.
We should not be in a position where foreign money is pouring in to get an elderly Putinist whose friends clearly show a total disregard for protocol (if you thought the unlawful proroguing of Parliament under the Tories was the worst it would get I’ve a Boris Bridge to sell you) into the driving seat, armed with unlimited legislative power and a bunch of radicalised slop-addicts off the back of 30% of the popular vote.
And even if not: our options so far have been Con, Lib-Con, Lab, and now Ref, and no option has been anything other than managed decline by continuing 50 years of Thatcherism. Unless some miracle occurs and there’s a Green government, there is no way as Westminster is to improve our class. And even then: the media, landed class, and spooks would ensure the immediate failure of any Green government that might threaten their interests.
Change the system to prevent unfettered power going to the “gas them all” party, Leveson the fuck out of every newspaper and broadcaster in the land, painfully restrict campaign funding, and smash the old boys’ networks, and I might just support the union again. At least away from the UK we have the slightest chance of building some resilience to the same thing happening again.
I don’t believe it and it doesn’t matter, there will never be another referendum.
England won’t be that daft again.
And yet you Scot’s bottled it even with the support of the Irain trolls. 👿
ONLY 60%?
It’s Find Out Now – which doesn’t have the best reputation – but nice anyway!
Even without the Frog in No10 – they have a good lead for Indy.
>FON surveys rely on PMP members to answer questions as they visit the site. PMP members are incentivised to visit the site daily to earn bonuses and claim any giveaway winnings. They do this by participating with site activities and one of these activities is answering survey questions if they so choose. PMP therefore collects responses passively and does not actively invite respondents. The collection process runs continuously as a data stream and FON can collect up to 100,000 responses a day. Thanks to the large quantity of streaming responses that originate from different parts of the UK and various demographic backgrounds, the responses collected are a sufficiently random sample.
>PMP, short for Pick My Postcode, is the UK’s biggest free daily giveaway site. It is a free to enter daily postcode draw platform available to all UK citizens. There are five daily Pick My Postcode lottery draws: the main draw, the video draw, survey draw, stackpot and bonus draw. A new winning postcode for each draw is selected every day and therefore PMP members are incentivised to visit daily.
Just the traditional reminder that FindOutNow has a *hilarious* methodology that exclusively polls people filling in free online lotteries every day, and treats the responses of that cohort as representative of the electorate as a whole.
They are not a serious polling organisation. They are a market research firm that publishes knowingly misleading but headline-generating polls in order to drive traffic to their actual business.
And to top it off, the owners of FON and PMP are…… the same person!
Not sure what I’d do, but I know lots of people who feel that way
You know you’re just going to have to put up with Tory governments 50% of the time, but Farage feels like something nobody should have to put up with
Not sure English voters understand that
“Support for independence ~~would~~ *should* rise to *well above* 60 per cent ~~if~~ *when* Farage becomes PM”
It’s going to happen. Reform is pretty much the only major political movement in England, and faces virtually no obstacles. The writing has been on the wall for years. Adults should have the capacity to see this.
Going to be interesting watching the committed unionists who pretend to just be sensible moderates waiting for Rory Stewart and Alastair Campbell to explain to them why losing the NHS forever is somehow preferable to independence.
Actually ‘interesting’ isnt the word. ‘Predictable’ is probably better.
Look how Poland voted after Hitler; it wont matter what people want if we get a fascist, that is the point of fascism.
People would just weather it, Scotland has weathered Cameron, Boris, Truss, Brexit etc. and the polls barely shift.
Indeed the fallout from Brexit is the best argument against Scottish independence.
The people in Scotland 🏴 are extremely anti-Nazi 😈 and antiFascism ☠️.
Take a look at the two similar sized countries that sandwich us. Ireland and Norway, far outpacing us in so many ways. Being tied to England hasn’t served Scotland well. Separate the parliaments!
No use without a route to a referendum and that doesn’t appear forthcoming now or under this circumstance.
It’s genuinely worrying how many people see a Farage premiership as a red line for the union. I never thought I’d consider it either, but the idea pushes even staunch unionists to the brink. That kind of widespread ick factor towards a potential leader is a massive political failure in itself. Honestly, it feels like the ultimate stress test for the UK, and one it might not pass.
I can’t believe we are letting Russia dictate the future of our country
Should start preparing for that now then, it’s going to happen.
One would think it would be higher – a lot higher.
Imagine being the 40% that are happy for England to vote in a nationalist party that is against devolution, and would cripple our standard of living through massive cuts to the Scotland Grant. All the while syphoning our state secrets to Russia.
You can’t reason with that and demonstrates a concerning lack of awareness.
If Farridge becomes PM i want all talk of referendums stopped. I want independence declared and we can defend the border with garden forks, snooker balls in socks and whatever we can find.
Equates to making a deal with the devil…. Have you researched what he thinks of the Scots/Scotland?
So what. We will never be allowed a vote again.
if farage becomes pm then the scottish parliament will cease to exist within a year
Not to mention the migration north.
Accelarationism is the way. Hasten the apocalypse, it’s the only way we’re going to learn (again) that authoritarianism no work good.
And for the optimist, every time we learn the lessen things get a little better in the long run. We got democracy out of imperialism, human rights and decolonialism out of world war 2, maybe we get decentralisation out of this second age of imperialism.
Yeah let’s have Brexit 2 because we might have an idiot as pm for 4 years
As a EU citizen it’d be pretty good news if Scotland could rejoin, if the UK doesn’t want to <3
Farage becoming PM is a piss take to all the no voters who voted in 2014.
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I mind this being said about Boris becoming PM
I’m pro union (red) but if Farage gets in then my vote could be swayed 100%. I hate that POS.
Bad news for Swinney and the SNP, then.
nothing like a bit of the old fasc to give ye the ick.
Like others have said, who is in No 10 should have little or no bearing. We need to focus on argument, policy and why Indy is a better long-term option than slowly sliding down the tubes with the Union.
I can understand people being against independence for currency reasons or potential trade/border issues, and a lack of belief that it could be resolved easily without negative consequences, but none of that changes with Farage as PM. I don’t really get why the threat of Farage as PM isn’t enough but the reality would be. Unless Farage doesn’t get mentioned until after support for independence has been polled.
It makes me think these aren’t really reliable polls.
Im surprised that low.
On the otherhand, if Farage becomes PM, he’s going to be a problem for the world, including a potential independent Scotland
thats because we would have a Reform-led England trying to tell a SNP-led Scotland what to do. When Reform do badly in Scotland , and once we stop laughing at them , we would have a constitutional crisis on our hands & a huge boost for independence 🏴
Been saying it a lot longer than these articles and getting all the hate for it.
Fuck Fartage.
Once again, a Poll.
I saw Farage’s thugs take over an intersection on the news a few months back. England flags everywhere. They were stopping the cars and pulling out the foreigners for a beating.
Being White Scottish, I’m not too sure what would happen to me if I drove through, was stopped, and they heard my accent. 50/50
Crazy that 40% of people would still rather stay….
I’m one of those who would never have voted in favour of independence, but a Farage government may be the tipping point.
Okay, so they’ve weighted it now? Either way, as sympathetic as I am to the suggestion that “a government is for five years, indy is forever, don’t make a rash decision”, one of the strongest driving forces for my supporting independence is that the Westminster style of governance is like a ratchet only leading one way.
We should not be in a position where foreign money is pouring in to get an elderly Putinist whose friends clearly show a total disregard for protocol (if you thought the unlawful proroguing of Parliament under the Tories was the worst it would get I’ve a Boris Bridge to sell you) into the driving seat, armed with unlimited legislative power and a bunch of radicalised slop-addicts off the back of 30% of the popular vote.
And even if not: our options so far have been Con, Lib-Con, Lab, and now Ref, and no option has been anything other than managed decline by continuing 50 years of Thatcherism. Unless some miracle occurs and there’s a Green government, there is no way as Westminster is to improve our class. And even then: the media, landed class, and spooks would ensure the immediate failure of any Green government that might threaten their interests.
Change the system to prevent unfettered power going to the “gas them all” party, Leveson the fuck out of every newspaper and broadcaster in the land, painfully restrict campaign funding, and smash the old boys’ networks, and I might just support the union again. At least away from the UK we have the slightest chance of building some resilience to the same thing happening again.
I don’t believe it and it doesn’t matter, there will never be another referendum.
England won’t be that daft again.
And yet you Scot’s bottled it even with the support of the Irain trolls. 👿
ONLY 60%?
It’s Find Out Now – which doesn’t have the best reputation – but nice anyway!
Even without the Frog in No10 – they have a good lead for Indy.
Reposting whenever Find out now pops up.
https://findoutnow.co.uk/find-out-now-panel-methodology/#collection
>FON surveys rely on PMP members to answer questions as they visit the site. PMP members are incentivised to visit the site daily to earn bonuses and claim any giveaway winnings. They do this by participating with site activities and one of these activities is answering survey questions if they so choose. PMP therefore collects responses passively and does not actively invite respondents. The collection process runs continuously as a data stream and FON can collect up to 100,000 responses a day. Thanks to the large quantity of streaming responses that originate from different parts of the UK and various demographic backgrounds, the responses collected are a sufficiently random sample.
>PMP, short for Pick My Postcode, is the UK’s biggest free daily giveaway site. It is a free to enter daily postcode draw platform available to all UK citizens. There are five daily Pick My Postcode lottery draws: the main draw, the video draw, survey draw, stackpot and bonus draw. A new winning postcode for each draw is selected every day and therefore PMP members are incentivised to visit daily.
Just the traditional reminder that FindOutNow has a *hilarious* methodology that exclusively polls people filling in free online lotteries every day, and treats the responses of that cohort as representative of the electorate as a whole.
They are not a serious polling organisation. They are a market research firm that publishes knowingly misleading but headline-generating polls in order to drive traffic to their actual business.
And to top it off, the owners of FON and PMP are…… the same person!
Not sure what I’d do, but I know lots of people who feel that way
You know you’re just going to have to put up with Tory governments 50% of the time, but Farage feels like something nobody should have to put up with
Not sure English voters understand that
“Support for independence ~~would~~ *should* rise to *well above* 60 per cent ~~if~~ *when* Farage becomes PM”
It’s going to happen. Reform is pretty much the only major political movement in England, and faces virtually no obstacles. The writing has been on the wall for years. Adults should have the capacity to see this.
Going to be interesting watching the committed unionists who pretend to just be sensible moderates waiting for Rory Stewart and Alastair Campbell to explain to them why losing the NHS forever is somehow preferable to independence.
Actually ‘interesting’ isnt the word. ‘Predictable’ is probably better.
Look how Poland voted after Hitler; it wont matter what people want if we get a fascist, that is the point of fascism.
People would just weather it, Scotland has weathered Cameron, Boris, Truss, Brexit etc. and the polls barely shift.
Indeed the fallout from Brexit is the best argument against Scottish independence.
The people in Scotland 🏴 are extremely anti-Nazi 😈 and antiFascism ☠️.
Take a look at the two similar sized countries that sandwich us. Ireland and Norway, far outpacing us in so many ways. Being tied to England hasn’t served Scotland well. Separate the parliaments!
No use without a route to a referendum and that doesn’t appear forthcoming now or under this circumstance.
It’s genuinely worrying how many people see a Farage premiership as a red line for the union. I never thought I’d consider it either, but the idea pushes even staunch unionists to the brink. That kind of widespread ick factor towards a potential leader is a massive political failure in itself. Honestly, it feels like the ultimate stress test for the UK, and one it might not pass.
I can’t believe we are letting Russia dictate the future of our country
Should start preparing for that now then, it’s going to happen.
One would think it would be higher – a lot higher.
Imagine being the 40% that are happy for England to vote in a nationalist party that is against devolution, and would cripple our standard of living through massive cuts to the Scotland Grant. All the while syphoning our state secrets to Russia.
You can’t reason with that and demonstrates a concerning lack of awareness.
If Farridge becomes PM i want all talk of referendums stopped. I want independence declared and we can defend the border with garden forks, snooker balls in socks and whatever we can find.
Equates to making a deal with the devil…. Have you researched what he thinks of the Scots/Scotland?
So what. We will never be allowed a vote again.
if farage becomes pm then the scottish parliament will cease to exist within a year
Not to mention the migration north.
Accelarationism is the way. Hasten the apocalypse, it’s the only way we’re going to learn (again) that authoritarianism no work good.
And for the optimist, every time we learn the lessen things get a little better in the long run. We got democracy out of imperialism, human rights and decolonialism out of world war 2, maybe we get decentralisation out of this second age of imperialism.
Yeah let’s have Brexit 2 because we might have an idiot as pm for 4 years
As a EU citizen it’d be pretty good news if Scotland could rejoin, if the UK doesn’t want to <3
Farage becoming PM is a piss take to all the no voters who voted in 2014.
That’s not the UK I voted to stay in.
This is what you said about Boris Johnson….
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