The guardian only caring about cancel culture when it’s the right doing the cancelling.
I think they should set up a GoFundMe and take it on the road to all the festivals. See what the Americans say then.
Their website is disturbing…
Somebody needs to check their harddrives…
Why do infants need to know about sexual satisfaction and masturbating? Why do the actors need to be naked while addressing children..
I remember when this play came up as a topic before and someone posted the lyrics to one of their songs that was supposedly in the play. I took that as fact until I realised later it was actually a transcript of one of their podcasts, which they specifically say is for teens and adults.
Now I have no idea if any of the podcast material was intended to be part of the show, it could well have been. But it does seem like it was misrepresented at least slightly?
Man, it’s really funny to me that one of the only examples of cancel culture perpetrated against the progressive left is against a ‘play’ where naked adults would tell 5 year old children about masturbation. Can’t wait to watch people die on this hill.
I don’t think it should have been cancelled but targeting a show about sex for age 5 and up is pretty disturbing to me and I have a hard time understanding why anyone would want to make or perform in the show or take their children to see it.
I think it was shut down by anti-pedophile activists from the left and right.
I wouldn’t have let these people perform in front of my children. Quite disturbing really.
Is safeguarding a Right Wing activity now?
People (from all walks of life) called this out for what it is, so she’s now trying to claim any disagreement is a Right wing attack, in order to make people back off. What despicable troupe of groomers.
It was cancelled because it was creepy. 5 year olds shouldn’t be told to search the internet for pictures of wanking animals? The phrases [“Sexual development and behaviour in children starts from birth”](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/apr/24/beware-having-opinion-on-sexually-inappropriate-theatre-age-you-10-years) and ““pleasure as a vehicle for consent” sound like something a paedo would come out with. I’m just old enough to remember when the nonces from the PIE tried to infiltrate a lot of well intentioned organisations using similarly warped logic.
If parents are going to abrogate responsibility for sex education it should at least be left to trained professionals, not a bloody theatre troop.
I think i need to see a script before I can properly judge this, could easily go either way but marketing it to children was always going to be very controversial, I’m guessing they planned for it to drive some interest but it backfired a bit.
Your play was a weird idea anyway, man. I don’t think the right needed to set their activists on you, normal people from all over the spectrum were rightly concerned
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Someone seems to be confusing normal, balanced people with “rightwing activists”.
It should really be the parents teaching them but kids that age do actually need to start being taught about some of this stuff. It is part of development that a child may start masturbating or at least feeling their own body to understand it. Young kids get questions and a good parent should not lie or discourage learning, you adjust the truth to be age appropriate but you do need to be truthful and teach them about their own feelings and body and the natural urges.
You have to explain these things to help protect them, if they have a basic understanding of natural sexual urges and how these things are private they’ll recognise if a Groomer is encouraging something wrong. Same as how you should teach a child that secrets are bad but that surprises with a set reveal are good so that they don’t get forced to hide what someone may be doing to them.
I was a menace for masturbating when I was that young. It started when I was in nappies and as soon as one came off I’d be grabbing myself and it never really stopped. I’d run off to hide in a corner drinking from a sippy cup while having a wank when I got out of nappies. My parents had to explain this was OK to do but that it was a private thing.
Toddlers explore their body. Very young kids discover their genitals. Young girls will try and put their toys up themselves while young boys will tug at themselves. Children want to be naked as they lack the shame we’re forced to carry so they need to be taught that we wear clothes for modesty but that we shouldn’t be ashamed of our body.
Overall I don’t know how suitable this show really was, without watching it you can’t entirely tell by vague write ups. But I do know the subjects do include things young children need to be taught about in limited ways. This show might not have been the best way to do it but it is surprising how many people in these threads since it hit the news don’t understand child development, hopefully they’re not parents or the next generation is going to suffer.
That’s because you enate dto teach *children* about sexual pleasure and have naked cast members on stage… The creators should be on some gov watch list tbh.
I’m a dirty left wing socialist and this has nothing to do with politics. It’s about not being a creepy nonce.
>The Family Sex Show is a piece of theatre for everyone. We suggest that this can include children over the age of five too
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>The campaigners said the show was “grooming” children by inviting them into the theatre, where some of the content of the show would include naked bodies
And you wonder why it was fucking cancelled. This reminded me of the Netflix show ‘Cuties’. 5 year olds shouldn’t be taught about sex, and they sure as hell shouldn’t be brainwashed for the sake of diversity.
Gtfo here. Too many nonces on here.
OK groomer.
I think there’s public cancel culture where people are like ‘your book is racist, I’m not going to buy it’ which can be taken further with ‘your book is racist, I’m not going to buy it. Nor will I shop anywhere that sells it or promotes it, and I’ll share my views in hopes others also boycott and businesses disassociate with you’.
And there’s the capital cancel culture, one or two powerful people or businesses don’t like someone or something and actively push them out the market. Like racist actors might not get jobs.
Both can be positive, or negative. Negative public cancel culture, when a false rumour leads to damaged income/reputation on an individual or business. Or negative capital cancel culture when powerful people persecute someone out of a market for rubbing the wrong person the wrong way while doing good.
I don’t think the people behind the play have a leg to stand on. They want to get naked and talk about masturbating for five year olds, I find it hard to picture a market of parents/schools wanting to take kids there, or places that willing to host a thinly veiled paedo party.
It’s not cancel culture, it’s consequence culture. I don’t make the rules.
Anyone who planned to take their kids to this needs their hard drives combed
“Right wing activists”, no, just concerned adults disturbed at naked grown men talking to children about wanking off to amateur porn (check the transcript..).
It’s really too bad this got cancelled, I guess they will just have to go to a children’s playground in only a trench coat and do it the old-fashioned way.
Ffs as if its only right wing people that are against nonces getting naked in front of kids. You people being nonces has nothing to do with left/right politics.
My wife actually saw this show in Bath. Said it was okay but not really kid friendly at all mainly because it would completely be over their heads.
Bunch of adults wanting to show up naked in front of minors? Yeah, totally normal and not concerning at all. Jesus christ
I’m a socialist and would be adamantly against this.
I would rather teachers, fully clothed at that, teach my children in a safe environment about sexual reproduction and sex issues.
Not some randos in a play, naked.
I’m absolutely sick of people calling it right wing when you don’t want adults shoving their dicks in kids faces.
As a Dutch person, the hysteria surrounding a few naked people is a bit baffling.
‘The outcry on social media and the subsequent petition used words and ideologies that are rooted in queerphobia, racism, fatphobia, ableism, misogyny and transphobia’
Translation:
I didn’t like the fact people disagreed with me/my play and therefore I believe those people were discriminating against me in any form I can possibly imagine
Hi! I’m very left wing and I don’t want children exposed to naked people. Am I really right wing?
But seriously, I’m all for progressive developments in society and creating a world without shame and instead be able to introduce particular subjects to children to show that they’re normal, like members of the LGBTQ+ community, buuuuut the only thing they should be exposed to in the sexual world is telling them not to go away with strangers. I don’t see a positive coming from this, there are better ways of teaching children to not be ashamed of their bodies or shame other people for their bodies.
Nah idk I’m solidly left wing and thought this was too far
There’s proper sex education and then there’s….this
Should deffo be taught that sexuality is completely natural and ok, but not by naked adults showing little kids their favourite wanking techniques
Wasn’t this the show in which naked adults taught young kids about masturbating?
This is pedophilic, not w right wing / left wing issue
The Guardian has really gone downhill. This trashy activism disguised as a play is also opposed by this left-winger and, no doubt, many others.
It wasn’t only the Right wing that attacked their shitty little play, I’m quite happy to know even the Centrist, and the LEFT were on the same team, it’s rare but we can work together, even agree on some things.
I’ve never had to tag so many dirty groomer fucks in one thread on here before. Not even in the Asian Grooming/Rape gangs threads that brings them out in droves.
Wow, plenty of comments from people who probably would never attend any form of theater, and were upset to find family sex wasn’t a graphic film of incest…
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The guardian only caring about cancel culture when it’s the right doing the cancelling.
I think they should set up a GoFundMe and take it on the road to all the festivals. See what the Americans say then.
Their website is disturbing…
Somebody needs to check their harddrives…
Why do infants need to know about sexual satisfaction and masturbating? Why do the actors need to be naked while addressing children..
I remember when this play came up as a topic before and someone posted the lyrics to one of their songs that was supposedly in the play. I took that as fact until I realised later it was actually a transcript of one of their podcasts, which they specifically say is for teens and adults.
Now I have no idea if any of the podcast material was intended to be part of the show, it could well have been. But it does seem like it was misrepresented at least slightly?
Man, it’s really funny to me that one of the only examples of cancel culture perpetrated against the progressive left is against a ‘play’ where naked adults would tell 5 year old children about masturbation. Can’t wait to watch people die on this hill.
I don’t think it should have been cancelled but targeting a show about sex for age 5 and up is pretty disturbing to me and I have a hard time understanding why anyone would want to make or perform in the show or take their children to see it.
I think it was shut down by anti-pedophile activists from the left and right.
I wouldn’t have let these people perform in front of my children. Quite disturbing really.
Is safeguarding a Right Wing activity now?
People (from all walks of life) called this out for what it is, so she’s now trying to claim any disagreement is a Right wing attack, in order to make people back off. What despicable troupe of groomers.
It was cancelled because it was creepy. 5 year olds shouldn’t be told to search the internet for pictures of wanking animals? The phrases [“Sexual development and behaviour in children starts from birth”](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/apr/24/beware-having-opinion-on-sexually-inappropriate-theatre-age-you-10-years) and ““pleasure as a vehicle for consent” sound like something a paedo would come out with. I’m just old enough to remember when the nonces from the PIE tried to infiltrate a lot of well intentioned organisations using similarly warped logic.
If parents are going to abrogate responsibility for sex education it should at least be left to trained professionals, not a bloody theatre troop.
I think i need to see a script before I can properly judge this, could easily go either way but marketing it to children was always going to be very controversial, I’m guessing they planned for it to drive some interest but it backfired a bit.
Your play was a weird idea anyway, man. I don’t think the right needed to set their activists on you, normal people from all over the spectrum were rightly concerned
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Someone seems to be confusing normal, balanced people with “rightwing activists”.
It should really be the parents teaching them but kids that age do actually need to start being taught about some of this stuff. It is part of development that a child may start masturbating or at least feeling their own body to understand it. Young kids get questions and a good parent should not lie or discourage learning, you adjust the truth to be age appropriate but you do need to be truthful and teach them about their own feelings and body and the natural urges.
You have to explain these things to help protect them, if they have a basic understanding of natural sexual urges and how these things are private they’ll recognise if a Groomer is encouraging something wrong. Same as how you should teach a child that secrets are bad but that surprises with a set reveal are good so that they don’t get forced to hide what someone may be doing to them.
I was a menace for masturbating when I was that young. It started when I was in nappies and as soon as one came off I’d be grabbing myself and it never really stopped. I’d run off to hide in a corner drinking from a sippy cup while having a wank when I got out of nappies. My parents had to explain this was OK to do but that it was a private thing.
Toddlers explore their body. Very young kids discover their genitals. Young girls will try and put their toys up themselves while young boys will tug at themselves. Children want to be naked as they lack the shame we’re forced to carry so they need to be taught that we wear clothes for modesty but that we shouldn’t be ashamed of our body.
Overall I don’t know how suitable this show really was, without watching it you can’t entirely tell by vague write ups. But I do know the subjects do include things young children need to be taught about in limited ways. This show might not have been the best way to do it but it is surprising how many people in these threads since it hit the news don’t understand child development, hopefully they’re not parents or the next generation is going to suffer.
That’s because you enate dto teach *children* about sexual pleasure and have naked cast members on stage… The creators should be on some gov watch list tbh.
I’m a dirty left wing socialist and this has nothing to do with politics. It’s about not being a creepy nonce.
>The Family Sex Show is a piece of theatre for everyone. We suggest that this can include children over the age of five too
>
>The campaigners said the show was “grooming” children by inviting them into the theatre, where some of the content of the show would include naked bodies
And you wonder why it was fucking cancelled. This reminded me of the Netflix show ‘Cuties’. 5 year olds shouldn’t be taught about sex, and they sure as hell shouldn’t be brainwashed for the sake of diversity.
Gtfo here. Too many nonces on here.
OK groomer.
I think there’s public cancel culture where people are like ‘your book is racist, I’m not going to buy it’ which can be taken further with ‘your book is racist, I’m not going to buy it. Nor will I shop anywhere that sells it or promotes it, and I’ll share my views in hopes others also boycott and businesses disassociate with you’.
And there’s the capital cancel culture, one or two powerful people or businesses don’t like someone or something and actively push them out the market. Like racist actors might not get jobs.
Both can be positive, or negative. Negative public cancel culture, when a false rumour leads to damaged income/reputation on an individual or business. Or negative capital cancel culture when powerful people persecute someone out of a market for rubbing the wrong person the wrong way while doing good.
I don’t think the people behind the play have a leg to stand on. They want to get naked and talk about masturbating for five year olds, I find it hard to picture a market of parents/schools wanting to take kids there, or places that willing to host a thinly veiled paedo party.
It’s not cancel culture, it’s consequence culture. I don’t make the rules.
Anyone who planned to take their kids to this needs their hard drives combed
“Right wing activists”, no, just concerned adults disturbed at naked grown men talking to children about wanking off to amateur porn (check the transcript..).
It’s really too bad this got cancelled, I guess they will just have to go to a children’s playground in only a trench coat and do it the old-fashioned way.
Ffs as if its only right wing people that are against nonces getting naked in front of kids. You people being nonces has nothing to do with left/right politics.
My wife actually saw this show in Bath. Said it was okay but not really kid friendly at all mainly because it would completely be over their heads.
Bunch of adults wanting to show up naked in front of minors? Yeah, totally normal and not concerning at all. Jesus christ
I’m a socialist and would be adamantly against this.
I would rather teachers, fully clothed at that, teach my children in a safe environment about sexual reproduction and sex issues.
Not some randos in a play, naked.
I’m absolutely sick of people calling it right wing when you don’t want adults shoving their dicks in kids faces.
As a Dutch person, the hysteria surrounding a few naked people is a bit baffling.
‘The outcry on social media and the subsequent petition used words and ideologies that are rooted in queerphobia, racism, fatphobia, ableism, misogyny and transphobia’
Translation:
I didn’t like the fact people disagreed with me/my play and therefore I believe those people were discriminating against me in any form I can possibly imagine
Hi! I’m very left wing and I don’t want children exposed to naked people. Am I really right wing?
But seriously, I’m all for progressive developments in society and creating a world without shame and instead be able to introduce particular subjects to children to show that they’re normal, like members of the LGBTQ+ community, buuuuut the only thing they should be exposed to in the sexual world is telling them not to go away with strangers. I don’t see a positive coming from this, there are better ways of teaching children to not be ashamed of their bodies or shame other people for their bodies.
Nah idk I’m solidly left wing and thought this was too far
There’s proper sex education and then there’s….this
Should deffo be taught that sexuality is completely natural and ok, but not by naked adults showing little kids their favourite wanking techniques
Wasn’t this the show in which naked adults taught young kids about masturbating?
This is pedophilic, not w right wing / left wing issue
The Guardian has really gone downhill. This trashy activism disguised as a play is also opposed by this left-winger and, no doubt, many others.
It wasn’t only the Right wing that attacked their shitty little play, I’m quite happy to know even the Centrist, and the LEFT were on the same team, it’s rare but we can work together, even agree on some things.
I’ve never had to tag so many dirty groomer fucks in one thread on here before. Not even in the Asian Grooming/Rape gangs threads that brings them out in droves.
Wow, plenty of comments from people who probably would never attend any form of theater, and were upset to find family sex wasn’t a graphic film of incest…