Yeah, It hasn’t got anything to do with the price of drinks at all
Scroungers moaning to the government because they’re on the wrong side of supply and demand
wage* crisis
Were Adrian Cummins and the rest of the clown troupe chorus not insisting the PUP was what was keeping people from rushing into zero hours jobs receiving abuse from drunken shitheads and then spending 90 unpaid minutes at least closing up in the early AMs after working a swing shift so they won’t have to pay you for lunch?
And you’re saying that’s *not* what happened?
> Mr O’Keeffe told politicians that the COG working group is examining short-term measures to help address the problems in the industry.
> He said the group is looking at integrating Ukrainian workers in hospitality, and the international recruitment of staff into the Irish market, as well as building future skills.
I’m sorry but what the fuck?! The Irish don’t want the jobs so let’s make the Ukrainians do them? Like, what the fuck?
Pay the staff more and actually adhere to employment laws then
Business refuses to increase wages or improve working conditions to attract staff and then complain they can’t get any workers.
The number of capitalists who don’t understand how capitalism works is astounding.
Supply and demand isn’t it?
If the demand isn’t there then maybe do something else. Oh and pay your fucking staff a living wage!!!
In fairness, there are only a real handful of pubs and bars that are going to in each city. There is far too much supply and not enough demand.
Pay the staff properly and structure the hours soundly. At least let me pretend some of my €5+ pint is going to someone other than the owner/landlord.
Well, it is no brainer, This country is so fucking expensive and taxes are too high.
Pay. More. Money.
Closed two days a week is a good thing, isn’t it? That’s like any 9-5 business.
I am almost 50 and have not worked in a bar in years…….I would happily work in one to get away from the shite job I currently work in. I live in Killaloe though so no idea if there are any around there looking for staff and whether they would take someone my age
If it was worth working those hours and you could feasibly forge a life or some sort of passable existence, people would work these jobs. But it’s not, so fuck em.
The crisis is the refusal to pay a living wage. If someone can’t afford to work for your business, then your business is failing and everyone else should not be forced to subsidize a failing business.
If they are willing to pay people enough money, then they will find people to hire. As it is the pandemic allowed people to move on from industries that are considered essential, but aren’t paid that way, and while a pub is not essential, it is still a thankless under paid job, and people are fed up with being paid a pittance for hard work, and being expected to be thankful for the pittance they receive for their labour.
So basically pay people a living wage, and you will find staff.
It’s not just about wages, although I do agree that’s a large part of it – it’s about working hours, and it’s not even that they’re unsociable but that they’re unpredictable. Too many hospitality businesses expect people to essentially never make plans on their days off in case they’re called into work at the very last minute with a late night text the day before they’re supposed to be off, and this seems to be absolutely rampant in the pub and restaurant industry.
This practise, as well as shift-splitting, needs to end if these people want their businesses to be considered attractive places to work.
I work part time in a busy pub in rural midlands at weekends along with my full time job. The reality for the pub I work in is that if they opened 7 days a week, they’d be losing money at an alarming rate. Customers aren’t there. I’ve been contacted by a lot of places asking me to work for them but unfortunately nobody can offer full time hours. It’s a vicious cycle.
Whats happening here imo is somewhat similar to what happened with the taxis. Liberalisation of licensing laws is coming and the vintners have had it soo good for decades. Theyve priced themselves out of the market.
They got there wish with closing the offies earlier, delighted with minimum price drink in supermarkets. They are desperate to keep the gravy train going and force people into pubs.
Punters cant afford pints anymore.
The sooner massive liberalisation in the form of proper opening hours happens the better. Society has moved on.
Pay staff more.
I’m so sick of the hospitality sectors bitching and moaning about staff shortages or that young people don’t want to work etc… the solution is simple, pay staff a living wage, treat them with respect, give clarity on hours well in advance so workers can plan their lives, create better working environments. Do that and you will be flooded with workers
“staff crisis” – working class people unwilling to work 40+ hours a week for buttons, lint and paperclips.
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Yeah, It hasn’t got anything to do with the price of drinks at all
Scroungers moaning to the government because they’re on the wrong side of supply and demand
wage* crisis
Were Adrian Cummins and the rest of the clown troupe chorus not insisting the PUP was what was keeping people from rushing into zero hours jobs receiving abuse from drunken shitheads and then spending 90 unpaid minutes at least closing up in the early AMs after working a swing shift so they won’t have to pay you for lunch?
And you’re saying that’s *not* what happened?
> Mr O’Keeffe told politicians that the COG working group is examining short-term measures to help address the problems in the industry.
> He said the group is looking at integrating Ukrainian workers in hospitality, and the international recruitment of staff into the Irish market, as well as building future skills.
I’m sorry but what the fuck?! The Irish don’t want the jobs so let’s make the Ukrainians do them? Like, what the fuck?
Pay the staff more and actually adhere to employment laws then
Business refuses to increase wages or improve working conditions to attract staff and then complain they can’t get any workers.
The number of capitalists who don’t understand how capitalism works is astounding.
Supply and demand isn’t it?
If the demand isn’t there then maybe do something else. Oh and pay your fucking staff a living wage!!!
In fairness, there are only a real handful of pubs and bars that are going to in each city. There is far too much supply and not enough demand.
Pay the staff properly and structure the hours soundly. At least let me pretend some of my €5+ pint is going to someone other than the owner/landlord.
Well, it is no brainer, This country is so fucking expensive and taxes are too high.
Pay. More. Money.
Closed two days a week is a good thing, isn’t it? That’s like any 9-5 business.
I am almost 50 and have not worked in a bar in years…….I would happily work in one to get away from the shite job I currently work in. I live in Killaloe though so no idea if there are any around there looking for staff and whether they would take someone my age
If it was worth working those hours and you could feasibly forge a life or some sort of passable existence, people would work these jobs. But it’s not, so fuck em.
The crisis is the refusal to pay a living wage. If someone can’t afford to work for your business, then your business is failing and everyone else should not be forced to subsidize a failing business.
If they are willing to pay people enough money, then they will find people to hire. As it is the pandemic allowed people to move on from industries that are considered essential, but aren’t paid that way, and while a pub is not essential, it is still a thankless under paid job, and people are fed up with being paid a pittance for hard work, and being expected to be thankful for the pittance they receive for their labour.
So basically pay people a living wage, and you will find staff.
It’s not just about wages, although I do agree that’s a large part of it – it’s about working hours, and it’s not even that they’re unsociable but that they’re unpredictable. Too many hospitality businesses expect people to essentially never make plans on their days off in case they’re called into work at the very last minute with a late night text the day before they’re supposed to be off, and this seems to be absolutely rampant in the pub and restaurant industry.
This practise, as well as shift-splitting, needs to end if these people want their businesses to be considered attractive places to work.
I work part time in a busy pub in rural midlands at weekends along with my full time job. The reality for the pub I work in is that if they opened 7 days a week, they’d be losing money at an alarming rate. Customers aren’t there. I’ve been contacted by a lot of places asking me to work for them but unfortunately nobody can offer full time hours. It’s a vicious cycle.
Whats happening here imo is somewhat similar to what happened with the taxis. Liberalisation of licensing laws is coming and the vintners have had it soo good for decades. Theyve priced themselves out of the market.
They got there wish with closing the offies earlier, delighted with minimum price drink in supermarkets. They are desperate to keep the gravy train going and force people into pubs.
Punters cant afford pints anymore.
The sooner massive liberalisation in the form of proper opening hours happens the better. Society has moved on.
Pay staff more.
I’m so sick of the hospitality sectors bitching and moaning about staff shortages or that young people don’t want to work etc… the solution is simple, pay staff a living wage, treat them with respect, give clarity on hours well in advance so workers can plan their lives, create better working environments. Do that and you will be flooded with workers
“staff crisis” – working class people unwilling to work 40+ hours a week for buttons, lint and paperclips.