On the bright side, twenty more years and the pension/debt problem will be solved overnight. That aspect of the welfare state will be basically dead, along with its last recipients and all the expenses it used to entail…
Uh oh – that looks bad. Very bad.
r/GraphsThatLookLikeFrance
Well this is so sad. The country will literally collapse it seems
Yeah we are pretty much fucked.
Also because a lot of those in the lower part of the graph will gtfo here.
The male surplus is disturbing. We will end up like China. Only the richest can afford women.
In 20 years, things are going to get dire or directly not going to be there.
Surplus under 40 males can now marry a surplus *nonna* and live off her pension til she dies and then enjoy the inheritance…
If it’s any consolation, Spain’s is still slightly worse.
Either policies change a lot so people can afford (financially and career-wise) to have all the children they want, or we will soon be looking at heavy population declines.
Counting the years till I will finally get to leave this fucked-up country! How do we buy 200k € houses when a 25 year old engineer gets payed 1400€?
Low natality, low wages, absence of work opportunities for the young and total exclusion from the political life (fun fact, we have the least sustainable pension scheme in the eu, and the politician who tried to push retirement age a little further in 2011 is still widely insulted online – 10 years later). It is sad to say, but Italy is doing everything to become an emigration country (in fact it already is), and we miss each train to hope to revert that decline in political, economical, cultural, social aspects who began in the 90ies. It is only going worse, and soon we will not compare us anymore to France or Germany but to Albania or Poland.
This is the future of almost all Europe (and probably the USA, and Latin America).
Hahahaha (kill me)
So can I has Italian Milf, pleeeeaze?
Now put the debt/GDP graph next to it and finally everyone can see that the current social system is not sustainable.
And the whole thing is screwed as soon half of the population will be pensioner they will dominante politics.
In Italy there are hot singles in your area (above 50)
This makes me sad, Italy and Italians are great and I would be sad to see such a massive decline of the country.
I think any countries facing population decline need to undertake some serious action to grow their populations back and then stabilise. Personally I believe the key is making it convenient for people to have children if they want them, and for them not worry about having to find a house or look after them when they return to work, as well as facilitating them to have children later in life.
Cheap property, free childcare, longer and better parental leave and benefits, financial incentive for having children, protecting career progression for expectant women, and better benefits for workers like making work from home the default if they want. All this could go a long way to reversing the trend.
Ouch!
So, what I’m seeing is it’s great to be a young person into cougars? Nice.
That’s actually a good picture. Imagine what it means to have a normal pyramid:
1. High mortality rate, especially in children
2. Low life expectancy, few people reach old age
3. High birth rates, women start to have children already in their teens.
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What could go wrong
This looks more like France.
Holy crap this is like a reverse population pyramid
Do the German one next lol
Yeah this is gonna be extremely rough lmao
I predict a quick change of mindset on immigration whenever that big generation reaches the retirement age
population octahedron
And this is why we will not be having an Eurozone fiscal union any time soon. Do I need to add that on top of this extreme ageing, [over 50%](https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=Migrant_integration_statistics_-_education#Educational_attainment) of Italy’s active age immigrants have 8 years of formal school education or less?
On the bright side, twenty more years and the pension/debt problem will be solved overnight. That aspect of the welfare state will be basically dead, along with its last recipients and all the expenses it used to entail…
Uh oh – that looks bad. Very bad.
r/GraphsThatLookLikeFrance
Well this is so sad. The country will literally collapse it seems
Yeah we are pretty much fucked.
Also because a lot of those in the lower part of the graph will gtfo here.
The male surplus is disturbing. We will end up like China. Only the richest can afford women.
In 20 years, things are going to get dire or directly not going to be there.
Surplus under 40 males can now marry a surplus *nonna* and live off her pension til she dies and then enjoy the inheritance…
If it’s any consolation, Spain’s is still slightly worse.
Either policies change a lot so people can afford (financially and career-wise) to have all the children they want, or we will soon be looking at heavy population declines.
Counting the years till I will finally get to leave this fucked-up country! How do we buy 200k € houses when a 25 year old engineer gets payed 1400€?
Low natality, low wages, absence of work opportunities for the young and total exclusion from the political life (fun fact, we have the least sustainable pension scheme in the eu, and the politician who tried to push retirement age a little further in 2011 is still widely insulted online – 10 years later). It is sad to say, but Italy is doing everything to become an emigration country (in fact it already is), and we miss each train to hope to revert that decline in political, economical, cultural, social aspects who began in the 90ies. It is only going worse, and soon we will not compare us anymore to France or Germany but to Albania or Poland.
This is the future of almost all Europe (and probably the USA, and Latin America).
Hahahaha (kill me)
So can I has Italian Milf, pleeeeaze?
Now put the debt/GDP graph next to it and finally everyone can see that the current social system is not sustainable.
And the whole thing is screwed as soon half of the population will be pensioner they will dominante politics.
In Italy there are hot singles in your area (above 50)
This makes me sad, Italy and Italians are great and I would be sad to see such a massive decline of the country.
I think any countries facing population decline need to undertake some serious action to grow their populations back and then stabilise. Personally I believe the key is making it convenient for people to have children if they want them, and for them not worry about having to find a house or look after them when they return to work, as well as facilitating them to have children later in life.
Cheap property, free childcare, longer and better parental leave and benefits, financial incentive for having children, protecting career progression for expectant women, and better benefits for workers like making work from home the default if they want. All this could go a long way to reversing the trend.
Ouch!
So, what I’m seeing is it’s great to be a young person into cougars? Nice.
That’s actually a good picture. Imagine what it means to have a normal pyramid:
1. High mortality rate, especially in children
2. Low life expectancy, few people reach old age
3. High birth rates, women start to have children already in their teens.
Do you really want to live in such a society?