Hugh o’Connell Tweet: Government secretly warned that influx of Ukrainian refugees into towns and cities poses risk to social cohesion

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  1. This is the tweet:

    Government secretly warned that influx of Ukrainian refugees into towns and cities poses risk to social cohesion and integration, particularly in deprived communities.

    Ministers also told current humanitarian response could become unsustainable.

    He has linked to a premium article in the Indo, which I presume discusses the fact that *we have a massive housing shortage*. The housing minister was out at the start of the war saying that they’d fast track modular housing and pull out all the stops…has anyone seen a modular house? As far as I can see, refugees are just being sent to Lisdonvarna and other remote places to live in hotels.

  2. At least they got their PR at the expense of the refugees. They had a win in the news a few weeks back, that’s all that matters. Its like the government thought they could start building houses for them all over night.

  3. I think social cohesion was blasted to shit with getting most of the country to stay in their homes for 2 years, and we all spent the spare time playing a big merry go round blame game.

    >it’s the STUDENTS
    >close the pubs!
    >fuckin northerners coming down in their caravans spreading covid!
    >quarantine the midlands!
    >close the gyms!
    >open the gyms!
    >yanks are bringing it over on planes, shut the airports!
    >it’d be over if everyone wore a mask!
    >it’d be over if everyone took the vaccine!
    >selfish young people going partying are killing gradma
    >selfish boomers are keeping young people locked up forever to save their hides
    >the brits are bringing in monkeypox!

    Ukrainians are not the problem.

  4. Social cohesion died in Ireland the day the Celtic Tiger debts of bankers and developers were nationalised and dumped on the back of working people for generations to come. Social cohesion with younger generations forced into gig economy jobs and impossible housing scenarios? As usual with self styled agenda setter O’Connell there’s a govt purpose being fulfilled.

  5. What social cohesion is left to break? The social contract has been sitting in a bin for the fifteen years we’ve all been working zero hour contracts to pay 3/4s of our income in rent to share a mouldy shithole we can get kicked out of next month. We’ve made public spaces actively hostile, private spaces a luxury, and my generation has a worse standard of living than the one before it and no guarantee it can ever retire or have shelter when it does.

    What social cohesion?

  6. There is no social cohesion, if there was this country wouldn’t be in the condition it is. It’s a rat race where people want to pull that ladder up after themselves once they get to a certain point.

  7. Surely it is the role of civil servants to produce papers setting out the risks of lots of policies? The bigger story would be if the government weren’t looking at the potential pitfalls of certain decisions they were making

  8. Government, during a virtue-signalling exercise, we will take the Ukrainians and figure it out after they arrive.

  9. So social cohesion in Ireland is more important than helping thousands of people in genuine need help and refuge fleeing from war. Good to know. Community can often be used in a nasty way in Ireland and you don’t even need to look in north to find that out.

  10. How is this in any way controversial?

    Yes of course taking in large swathes of refugees during a time of low housing and high inflation still cause problems

    Yes of course it’s the right thing to do

    Those things are not mutually exclusive

    Of course the government recognized the potential issues. I’d be worried if there wasn’t a “secret” memo like this

  11. There’s a lot parents fuming that the government acted so swiftly on housing refugees when their own kids are considering emigration just to be able to sustainably own a home fit for starting a family.

    The only winners persistently seem to be rent farming shoebox landlords.

  12. ITT: People who don’t understand social cohesion.

    People are giving examples of the social contract breaking down. Now they’re spot on with that analysis, but it’s not really germane to this point.

    Social cohesion is how a society relates with itself. Ireland doesn’t have that issue. Northern Ireland definitely does since it has two communities that are not very cohesive. But in Ireland, there’s section of society that has animosity with another section.

  13. I have a conspiracy that the government did this not out of the goodness of their heart, but to use it as a scape goat for when shit finally hits the fan due to years of incompetent rule or indifference.

    If or when people get to a breaking point due to lack of housing, they’ll simply just blame it on the Ukraine refugee crisis.

  14. My conspiracy is that the government made an arrangement with the vintners and hoteliers to provide them with refugee workers as a way of buying back their support over covid lockdowns. It’s a win-win for all of them.

  15. Is it not a given that an influx of foreign nationals on local communities may have an impact ? Like we’ve been taking refugees for a long time now.

  16. Haven’t come across any Ukrainians who weren’t sound yet. Seem eager to get into the culture and mingle too. Should be monitored alright, but I wouldn’t go fear mongering.

  17. I doubt that, just scaremongering by the government. Most people are welcoming of the refugees who are here for legitimate reasons. People are more pissed off with the government for failing with the housing supply for the last 8 years.

  18. not surprising unfortunately, its the same with encouraging non-eu people to live here, the **government fails both immigrants and Irish people.** You can’t blame anyone for wanting a better life, but the government has failed us all as they don’t care about rent prices and housing supply.

  19. Shouldn’t come as a surprise to anyone, but good to see it at least has some official recognition. Plenty of people were pointing this out two months ago but they were invariably dismissed for their “far right rhetoric” or some such crap. The truth is any solution to the housing crisis slips further away with each passing week. The numbers just don’t add up.

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