Baltic politicians have lashed out at French and German leaders for discussing with Russian president Vladimir Putin how to unblock Ukrainian ports, highlighting the diverging views among western allies over how to handle diplomacy with Moscow.
Leaders in eastern Europe have grown uneasy about the willingness of their western European counterparts to talk with Putin, reigniting suspicion that some EU countries are pushing Kyiv to cede territory to end the war.
“It is incredible how the leaders of France and Germany are inadvertently paving the way for new acts of violence by Russia . . . How is it possible neither Paris nor Berlin have learned from history? Why is it presumed that Putin, currently waging a war on a major European people, intends to keep any promise?” asked Marko Mihkelson, head of the Estonian parliament’s foreign affairs committee.
What are the “Baltics” proposing to do against the massive food shortage that is arriving, especially in Africa ?
I frankly don’t care. They can screech from the sidelines, push their anti Franco German agenda and spread conspiracy theories about secret agreements as much as they want. It is the right thing to maintain a baseline of communication and Ukraine has recently stated that they would like to see Germany and France accompanying diplomatic efforts when the time for a permanent solution has come.
so whats their grand idea of fixing this?
crowdfunding spare change for some missiles?
chances are they simply dont give a shit if non-white people around the world die, wouldnt be the first time.
Here we go, 3 months in, unity among europeans starting to show cracks
It is fine to talk, but I wouldn’t agree lifting sanctions to get ports open though. That is not a long term solution at all, and contributes nothing to ending the war. Russia can still harass/blockade Ukraine at anytime just to extract more concessions. They also could just fire missiles at the Odessa port or food transit routes, seize vessels for “transporting military hardware,” and sending them to Russia etc, and I am pretty sure they will do all of that. It is not even a bandaid, it is sticking your head in the sand and pretending the wound has healed.
I think we should call a UN meeting now to demand Russia to open the ports in order to alleviate the food shortage situation,(which Russia will obviously vote down) but it forces African countries, who will be most impacted, to take a clear stance on this issue. And then we negotiate with India. I think that is the only option. They have a ton of grain reserve. Maybe have some sort of agreement where we will help replenish Indian reserves after the harvest. American grain harvest is right around the corner, so I am sure that is achievable. That is just kicking the ball down the line though but it buys us some time.
Lifting sanctions is absolutely inacceptable, agreeing to putin would set a precedent that you can naval blockade states to get your wishes.
I think there is a chance we could get a majority in the General Assembly for a military solution to the grain exports and we should do just that.
This sub is full of pacifistic jerks, I’m out.
Im sorry to inform the dear kids of this sub who “downdots” everything they don’t wanna see, but Kyiv will have to cede territory after this war.
If this article to be believe that’s what made the Baltic leaders uneasy, which is their right as how closely they’re aware of Russian tyrany.
Putin is no stupid. If we want him to end this war, he will, however much we don’t want it, dictate the peace conference.
The German and French businessmen are deperate to get back to business as usual. Behind the scenes Putin is , i guess , desperate to ” peel them off ” the western alliance. Fucking sellouts.
Seeing the comments here… ‘Africa should starve because they support Russia and China, why even care’
The fact that the main oppressor(and the ones partly responsible for the situation in Africa)not that long of the African continent was Europe means nothing, let’em starve. And this isn’t about the sanctions to Russia, that’s not what France-Germany said.
It’s okay, we are standing on the high moral ground by supporting Ukranians against Russia’s barbaric invasion, we did our good deed for this year, let em starve
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Baltic politicians have lashed out at French and German leaders for discussing with Russian president Vladimir Putin how to unblock Ukrainian ports, highlighting the diverging views among western allies over how to handle diplomacy with Moscow.
Leaders in eastern Europe have grown uneasy about the willingness of their western European counterparts to talk with Putin, reigniting suspicion that some EU countries are pushing Kyiv to cede territory to end the war.
“It is incredible how the leaders of France and Germany are inadvertently paving the way for new acts of violence by Russia . . . How is it possible neither Paris nor Berlin have learned from history? Why is it presumed that Putin, currently waging a war on a major European people, intends to keep any promise?” asked Marko Mihkelson, head of the Estonian parliament’s foreign affairs committee.
What are the “Baltics” proposing to do against the massive food shortage that is arriving, especially in Africa ?
I frankly don’t care. They can screech from the sidelines, push their anti Franco German agenda and spread conspiracy theories about secret agreements as much as they want. It is the right thing to maintain a baseline of communication and Ukraine has recently stated that they would like to see Germany and France accompanying diplomatic efforts when the time for a permanent solution has come.
so whats their grand idea of fixing this?
crowdfunding spare change for some missiles?
chances are they simply dont give a shit if non-white people around the world die, wouldnt be the first time.
Here we go, 3 months in, unity among europeans starting to show cracks
It is fine to talk, but I wouldn’t agree lifting sanctions to get ports open though. That is not a long term solution at all, and contributes nothing to ending the war. Russia can still harass/blockade Ukraine at anytime just to extract more concessions. They also could just fire missiles at the Odessa port or food transit routes, seize vessels for “transporting military hardware,” and sending them to Russia etc, and I am pretty sure they will do all of that. It is not even a bandaid, it is sticking your head in the sand and pretending the wound has healed.
I think we should call a UN meeting now to demand Russia to open the ports in order to alleviate the food shortage situation,(which Russia will obviously vote down) but it forces African countries, who will be most impacted, to take a clear stance on this issue. And then we negotiate with India. I think that is the only option. They have a ton of grain reserve. Maybe have some sort of agreement where we will help replenish Indian reserves after the harvest. American grain harvest is right around the corner, so I am sure that is achievable. That is just kicking the ball down the line though but it buys us some time.
Lifting sanctions is absolutely inacceptable, agreeing to putin would set a precedent that you can naval blockade states to get your wishes.
I think there is a chance we could get a majority in the General Assembly for a military solution to the grain exports and we should do just that.
This sub is full of pacifistic jerks, I’m out.
Im sorry to inform the dear kids of this sub who “downdots” everything they don’t wanna see, but Kyiv will have to cede territory after this war.
If this article to be believe that’s what made the Baltic leaders uneasy, which is their right as how closely they’re aware of Russian tyrany.
Putin is no stupid. If we want him to end this war, he will, however much we don’t want it, dictate the peace conference.
The German and French businessmen are deperate to get back to business as usual. Behind the scenes Putin is , i guess , desperate to ” peel them off ” the western alliance. Fucking sellouts.
Seeing the comments here… ‘Africa should starve because they support Russia and China, why even care’
The fact that the main oppressor(and the ones partly responsible for the situation in Africa)not that long of the African continent was Europe means nothing, let’em starve. And this isn’t about the sanctions to Russia, that’s not what France-Germany said.
It’s okay, we are standing on the high moral ground by supporting Ukranians against Russia’s barbaric invasion, we did our good deed for this year, let em starve