
Only Black Sea ships will allow Ukraine to feed the world again. EU plan to export grain by road and rail will barely move a fifth of regular food supplies

Only Black Sea ships will allow Ukraine to feed the world again. EU plan to export grain by road and rail will barely move a fifth of regular food supplies
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Yeah, there’s a tiny little issue on that statement EU:
Russia has warships ready to strike whoever tries going near Ukraine, they know this and this is why they are using the grain terrorist blackmail deal in order to make the West bow down to them.
Shit man we are gone involve this shit too huh
The dramatic increase in food prices cannot be explained by simply blaming Russia – while Ukraine exports are significant, they are still less than 10% of the total market and a few months of disruption should have been easily compensated by other suppliers and from storage. Moreover this issue cannot be solved just by getting Ukraine grain back on the market, because this does not address greed of speculants and latent problems with global food supply (which have been getting worse in the past years and would have manifested anyway).
a fifth is better than none
I know a kid, he is in nautic school, and he will be on ship in week or so headding to Ukraine to get grain. I dunno is it because they will probably rise Serbian flag so blockade will not affect it or… I was confused, still am.
There is no alternative for maritime transport. It will take many-many trains to transport the same amount of stuff just a single container ship would carry, not to mention the cost. Tens if not hundreds of trains carrying the same load will always be more costly compared to a single ship.
That’s why countries that have sea/ocean access have an unfair advantage over any other land-locked country.
Poland has build a whole new city in the 1920s (Gdynia) because Gdańsk/Danzig was not cooperating well with the state and limiting port access. Gdynia from a small village quickly became a blooming city.
It would really be best for many countries if the flow of agricultural products from Ukraine continues. Africa will suffer the most.
When starvation starts hitting Africa, the countries that refused to use everything against russia from the start will understand their error.
The flood of migrants across the Mediterranean will be colossal.
Totes worth it for cheap gas and oil. /s
We should consider an EU naval mission in the black sea to keep this vital trade route open and if Putin has a problem with that he can suck a fat cock.
turkey will allow passage but turkish navy will not be enough to protect the supply ships, if usa not sending us navy we should get support from greece.
So wait:
– Russia invades Ukraine
– Ukraine fails to export their grain because of Russian blockade
– EU offers to help export at least some of it
– politico article and the Ukrainian agrar lobby: mimimi, EU bad only one fifth
Should be: mimimi, Russia bad. Thanks EU for helping us export at least one fifth.
Thread about big problems in Ukrainian grain logistics due to blocked ports by Russia .
“In 2021 exports, 50 million tons were grains, 38 million tons were ore.
Now they’re trying to take it all by rail and automobiles overland. And running into problems.
By truck is long and expensive. One grain truck carries 24 tons of grain, burning up to 40 liters of diesel per 100 km. And we know that there is no fuel. But they haul because the railroad is even worse.
The thing is that we and Europe have different rail gauges. We have 1520 mm, they have 1435 mm. For our cars to cross the border, they should at least change the bogies.
The different gauge determines the difference of such parameters as the rolling stock clearance and the clearance of the buildings. As a result, most of our wagons simply won’t pass even on narrow bogies.
So, overloading is needed. As you can guess, no one has developed transloading capacity at the crossing points.
As a result, the queue for transshipment at different crossings now ranges from 30 to 40 days. Grain is becoming golden, as transportation is starting to cost up to $100 per ton, with the price of $250-300 per ton of grain itself.
Even if we took grain cars to the border, transshipped them, and took them to Europe, where should we put them? The total transshipment capacity of grain in Polish ports is about 3 million tons a year. This is less than one Ismail handles. It is 10 times less than one Chernomorsk.
OK, there’s the south where Romania is, with the largest port at Constanta. The capacity is there, but how do you get there? All gauge there again is 1435, although the dimensions are said to be easier. The second way is to get to our ports on the Danube (Ishmael and Reni), reload them onto barges and bring them to the sea.”
and etc.
https://threadreaderapp-com.translate.goog/thread/1527972879559643136.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp
How big are those ships.
Best way to get Ukraine exporting food again is to stop the Russian invasion. Trying to pry food out of Ukraine while the country is still being shelled and destroyed by an invading army just seems ghoulish to me.