Only 1% of complaints about police lead to proceedings, Home Office reveals

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  1. The police who assaulted my brother (who framed my brother for assaulting them) were found guilty of perjury (lying under oath) at my brother’s trial thanks to the CCTV that they withheld for 6 months (CCTV is required to be produced after 2 weeks).

    My brother was offered either £10k compensation or a pursuit of complaint to the IPCC.

    My brother turned the money down, went to the IPCC, then another 6 months passed and he finally got a letter telling him no further action was required, cops did nothing wrong.

    Fuck the system.

  2. Does this include spurious ones?

    Got a mate who does the bodycams for one force (which I shan’t name because it’d identify him) and a fair few complaints get to the point of them being told it’s on bodycam, then dropped. They’re usually just looking for some way to get back at the officer or system that’s taken them/their kid away etc.

    I don’t know relative weighting or amounts, but he said it’s incredibly common.

  3. So? How are we supposed to know that this is wrong? Anyone who’s ever worked in any public-facing job knows that 90% of complaints are bullshit, and people have even more reason to make up spurious complaints relating to the police.

    If people have an issue with the handling of specific cases, that’s fine, but what’s the point in presenting statistics then drawing vague assumptions based on nothing?

  4. Right, but without seeing a selection of complaints it’s impossible to say whether that’s a reasonable percentage. I can absolutely see people putting in a complaint about utterly trivial or made up shit to get back at them after being arrested or having a case dropped etc.

    How many complaints to the NHS go anywhere? A decent chunk dont even get an apology because theres nothing to apologise for

  5. I expect the long delays in bringing cases forwards means that people just give up as they do not think the endless waiting will lead to anything meaningful happening to the officers accused of wrongdoing, which is exactly what the police would love to happen.

  6. Shockingly it turns out that criminals lie!!!!!!! Who would have guessed that????

    I’m honestly dumbfounded, how the fuck could someone who burgles houses by dressing up as an electrician to gain entry under false pretenses possibly lie and make up a fake complaint? It just doesn’t make any sense. What incentive would someone facing a prison sentence have to make an accusation which could get them off the charge? It’s completely shocking. There’s no explanation.

  7. Its crazy how willing people are to jump to accusing the claims of being spurious. Its 99%. In fact, its 99% of people who actually bother to make a complaint even though there’s a 99% chance that their complaint won’t make any difference. Makes you wonder how many people have been wrongfully arrested or searched, got no justice, then didn’t bother to make a complaint after being harassed a second time.

    92% of crimes from 2018-2019 ended without a conviction. Those 92% of people have a right to ask whether the police did their jobs properly.

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    Meanwhile, when police are active, they stop and search black people more than eight times as often as white people. They send undercover cops to lie and have sexual relationships with people in non-violent protest groups. They bully and manipulate people into false confessions. They strip search mentally ill minors using a knife without probable cause or the child’s parent or guardian present.

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    To me, this says that police know that they are 99% unaccountable. Its no wonder they thought they could get away with sharing selfies taken with the corpses of Bibaa Henry and Nicole Smallman.

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    You gotta wonder how many complaints were filed about the officers who were caught messaging each other, boasting about domestic violence and making racist and rape jokes for months.

    [https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/01/met-officers-joked-raping-women-police-watchdog-racist](https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/01/met-officers-joked-raping-women-police-watchdog-racist)

  8. Of 14,393 complaints 92% were ignored. That’s probably because those were spurious, and along the lines of “PC Angel shouldn’t have arrested me I want him locked up he hurt my wrist when he cuffed me”. There is some degree of expectation that an officer who isn’t receiving any complaints at all isn’t doing their job right.

    Also one they highlight:

    > Nicholas Taylor, an ex-detective at West Midlands police, was last week found guilty of gross misconduct after selling sexual services to strangers via an adult website, including threesomes at an hourly rate of £150.

    Well, if you’re going to ban officers from taking decent earning second jobs you might have to pay them more.

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