This is not a solution at all and doesn’t fix anything that happened last weekend. It’s still people queueing outside which is the issue in the first place.
Additionally, anyone going to the states has to go through additional customs and security, and I doubt this has been taken into account.
The problem isn’t caused by passengers, it’s caused by poor management by the DAA.
>This anomaly
Is that buisness talk for clusterfuck?
Purgatory
> Mr Phillps will say Daa “will put in place bad weather cover, seating, and toilets in the holding area as quickly as possible in the coming days **following** trialling of this system over the June bank holiday weekend.”
Does that mean they’re going to trial it this weekend *without* bad weather cover, seats, and toilets?
This makes it clear that they’re still blaming those who show up early. Why can’t these assholes pay their staff more?
I’m predicting this weekend is going to be a disaster.
What happens when someone arrives early is forced in to the “holding area” and then ends up missing their flight becaise the queue is too long
Will there be soft toys and lego to keep us entertained at least?
Jesus Christ I’m flying to the States on Monday morning and just know this will be absolute wank.
It’s a mathematical certainty of queue systems that as your resource utilisation in processing approaches 100% your queue sizes approach infinity.
what they’re trying to do here is limit queue size and decrease demand because they have failed to increase capacity.
The only way to realistically process all the people that want to fly is to increase the capacity, ie either more staff by some means or make the process more efficient. Can we do away with some of the checks that are performed? Not every country in the world makes you fiddle about with liquids, maybe we can shave 10 seconds per person there?
Should they not be putting everyone into a holding area based on your flight, then processing people flight by flight, rather than mixed? That way there’s less chance of a plane leaving people behind, because they’d have to leave everyone behind.
I just don’t trust the DAA after Sunday.
I saw their reasoning (37 staff not available) and their assertion that the passenger levels on Sunday were the same as Friday, and there we no delays on Friday. But if it happened once, it can happen again.
We fly on Monday with our infant daughter and will get to the airport about 5.5 hours early as it stands. We need to check in with all the baby gear, do Irish security, do TSA security and then pre-clearance. We’ve done it before with 4 hours timing and it was tight.
Best case scenario is no queues, and we’ll buy access to the post pre-clearance lounge, but I’m not taking a risk after the holy show last week.
Visions of the movie Day after Tomorrow. People just bursting through metal fencing, all legging it to get onto the closest plane they can see. Children being thrown around the place, every man and woman for themselves, and that last gasp hero holding onto someones hand as they dangle out the back door of the Ryanair flight to Lanzarote.
Lol, this is going to be a nightmare.
How long is too long before your flight?
So you just have people wait outside then? Even if it’s pissing rain?
Is there a queue in the “designated holding area”? What if that queue is huge and leads to people missing their flights?
So a paddock?
I am blaming Liverpool. Let’s face it everyone who did not turn up on Sunday morning at the airport to work were up late watching the match the night before.
“Get in the cage!!”
Sometimes you just need a “dictator” of sorts to come in and cut and chop and scream and shout to get things into shape.
It looks like DAA is sorely in need of such a “dictator” right now. It’s beyond a joke that such something as vitally important to the country as the biggest airport is functioning so badly.
If they put a reasonably priced bar and smoking area in then itll be grand
Gotta question that strategy meeting.
“We need something to fix this problem.”
“How about internment?”
“Genius”
Fyre Festival – Dublin Edition
If I get put in a “holding area” tomorrow I’m going to let me 2-year old loose to release absolute mayhem.
Guarantee some people will just book an earlier €20 flight to Kerry or somewhere in the UK if they enforce this, that’ll be the new fast track
Awesome plan. This way, even if you give up your entire day to make up for the disorganisation of dublin airport, you still get to miss your flight.
The last time I flew from Shannon, they had these new security machines that meant you didn’t have to take out jackets, water, laptops, toiletries etc. from your bag. I know Shannon isn’t a busy airport, but going through security literally took 30 seconds thanks to this.
Why has this been installed in one of the quietest airports in the country, and not the busiest? This wouldn’t resolve the staffing issue, but it would definitely help reduce the choke point that is queueing for security.
“W-what if we had pints at the Dublin Airport internment camp?”
😳💋 🙈
I knew the plan would be shit
Dublin Airport: “Don’t arrive too early”
Also Dublin Airport: “Arrive up to an hour earlier if you have bags to check in”
Man this weekend is going to be a total shit show that makes the scenes last Sunday look reasonable
DAA: guys you need to arrive early to make sure you get your flight….but if you arrive too early you’ll be put out to pasture.
At this stage there is going to be a 15 minute window of when you can arrive and not be early or late.
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So, like a pen of some sort?
“Designated holding area” that’s PR for “outside”
Waiting to wait. I like it.
This is not a solution at all and doesn’t fix anything that happened last weekend. It’s still people queueing outside which is the issue in the first place.
Additionally, anyone going to the states has to go through additional customs and security, and I doubt this has been taken into account.
The problem isn’t caused by passengers, it’s caused by poor management by the DAA.
>This anomaly
Is that buisness talk for clusterfuck?
Purgatory
> Mr Phillps will say Daa “will put in place bad weather cover, seating, and toilets in the holding area as quickly as possible in the coming days **following** trialling of this system over the June bank holiday weekend.”
Does that mean they’re going to trial it this weekend *without* bad weather cover, seats, and toilets?
This makes it clear that they’re still blaming those who show up early. Why can’t these assholes pay their staff more?
I’m predicting this weekend is going to be a disaster.
What happens when someone arrives early is forced in to the “holding area” and then ends up missing their flight becaise the queue is too long
Will there be soft toys and lego to keep us entertained at least?
Jesus Christ I’m flying to the States on Monday morning and just know this will be absolute wank.
It’s a mathematical certainty of queue systems that as your resource utilisation in processing approaches 100% your queue sizes approach infinity.
[https://blog.danslimmon.com/2016/08/26/the-most-important-thing-to-understand-about-queues/](https://blog.danslimmon.com/2016/08/26/the-most-important-thing-to-understand-about-queues/)
what they’re trying to do here is limit queue size and decrease demand because they have failed to increase capacity.
The only way to realistically process all the people that want to fly is to increase the capacity, ie either more staff by some means or make the process more efficient. Can we do away with some of the checks that are performed? Not every country in the world makes you fiddle about with liquids, maybe we can shave 10 seconds per person there?
Should they not be putting everyone into a holding area based on your flight, then processing people flight by flight, rather than mixed? That way there’s less chance of a plane leaving people behind, because they’d have to leave everyone behind.
I just don’t trust the DAA after Sunday.
I saw their reasoning (37 staff not available) and their assertion that the passenger levels on Sunday were the same as Friday, and there we no delays on Friday. But if it happened once, it can happen again.
We fly on Monday with our infant daughter and will get to the airport about 5.5 hours early as it stands. We need to check in with all the baby gear, do Irish security, do TSA security and then pre-clearance. We’ve done it before with 4 hours timing and it was tight.
Best case scenario is no queues, and we’ll buy access to the post pre-clearance lounge, but I’m not taking a risk after the holy show last week.
Visions of the movie Day after Tomorrow. People just bursting through metal fencing, all legging it to get onto the closest plane they can see. Children being thrown around the place, every man and woman for themselves, and that last gasp hero holding onto someones hand as they dangle out the back door of the Ryanair flight to Lanzarote.
Lol, this is going to be a nightmare.
How long is too long before your flight?
So you just have people wait outside then? Even if it’s pissing rain?
Is there a queue in the “designated holding area”? What if that queue is huge and leads to people missing their flights?
So a paddock?
I am blaming Liverpool. Let’s face it everyone who did not turn up on Sunday morning at the airport to work were up late watching the match the night before.
“Get in the cage!!”
Sometimes you just need a “dictator” of sorts to come in and cut and chop and scream and shout to get things into shape.
It looks like DAA is sorely in need of such a “dictator” right now. It’s beyond a joke that such something as vitally important to the country as the biggest airport is functioning so badly.
If they put a reasonably priced bar and smoking area in then itll be grand
Gotta question that strategy meeting.
“We need something to fix this problem.”
“How about internment?”
“Genius”
Fyre Festival – Dublin Edition
If I get put in a “holding area” tomorrow I’m going to let me 2-year old loose to release absolute mayhem.
Guarantee some people will just book an earlier €20 flight to Kerry or somewhere in the UK if they enforce this, that’ll be the new fast track
Awesome plan. This way, even if you give up your entire day to make up for the disorganisation of dublin airport, you still get to miss your flight.
The last time I flew from Shannon, they had these new security machines that meant you didn’t have to take out jackets, water, laptops, toiletries etc. from your bag. I know Shannon isn’t a busy airport, but going through security literally took 30 seconds thanks to this.
Why has this been installed in one of the quietest airports in the country, and not the busiest? This wouldn’t resolve the staffing issue, but it would definitely help reduce the choke point that is queueing for security.
“W-what if we had pints at the Dublin Airport internment camp?”
😳💋 🙈
I knew the plan would be shit
Dublin Airport: “Don’t arrive too early”
Also Dublin Airport: “Arrive up to an hour earlier if you have bags to check in”
Man this weekend is going to be a total shit show that makes the scenes last Sunday look reasonable
DAA: guys you need to arrive early to make sure you get your flight….but if you arrive too early you’ll be put out to pasture.
At this stage there is going to be a 15 minute window of when you can arrive and not be early or late.