I think there was another cull like 10 years ago or so, and the argument then was that the wolf population was to inbred. How shooting them would solve that is beyond me. The counter argument however was the royals in Sweden apparently were more inbred than the wolves.
That’s really a lot of untamed woof woof’s :/
Europe is just pathetic, people live with wilderness on their doorstep in pretty much any other continent, but here someone sees a wolf and half of the entire population needs to be killed, same with boars or anything that pussies are afraid of. “but muh farms”, literally build a fence or allow farmers to kill them if they kill their livestock, still better than intentionally hunting them and killing almost all of them for no fucking reason
As a Swede, I say fuck this. And, before anyone asks, no, I’m not from Stockholm; I’m from a small village in the countryside with about 70 people and 700 cows.
Spain: 3000 wolves. Italy: 2500 wolves
Sweden: 400 (soon to be 200?)
Wtf?
Honestly, I want to hear some objective, non-moralist arguments for bringing the wolves back. What benefits do they actually bring that we do not already have?
Far as I understand our human hunters take up the exact same ecological niche in keeping deer and moose populations down, without endangering lifestock or pets and without creating further conflict between urban and rural people. Aside from arbitrary biodiversity points and wolves being majestic, why would I *want* to have them around?
Jesus, your country too?!
I hope this plan doesn’t go through.
Finland has a wolf population around 280-320 by last year’s estimate.
The last time a wolf has killed, or even hurt a person in Finland was in 1882.
And yet many agrarian cunts feel that some of them need to be killed.
Meanwhile pretty much all scientists on the topic disagrees with the justifications for this decision…
The number of wolves is not really increasing. And the target number of ~200 is not long term sustainable.
This is so pointless and wrong to do in the modern day. If you’re a farmer that’s too stupid to use a livestock guardian dog or an electric fence to protect your animals that’s on you. It’s an unfathomably low bar that literally every other country seems to manage to hit just fine.
Ffs Europeans were some of the first peoples to breed livestock guardian dogs, Great Pyrenees, Greater Swiss Mountain Dogs, etc.
Well, the wolf population will never be allowed to migrate to the northern half of Sweden because of the Sami people and their roaming reindeer herds. They will be allowed to shoot them. Parliament in Stockholm would never adopt wolf policies which would threaten this way of life for the Sami. This means that the wolves are concentrated in a few provinces in mid-Sweden, which are more densely populated compared to the north. See map: [https://www.de5stora.com/om-rovdjuren/artfakta/varg/har-finns-vargen/](https://www.de5stora.com/om-rovdjuren/artfakta/varg/har-finns-vargen/)
There have been reports in the last couple of years of wolves seemingly being less afraid of human areas and starting to enter properties and campsites, and confirmed attacks on sheep farms. It’s not an easy situation.
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I think there was another cull like 10 years ago or so, and the argument then was that the wolf population was to inbred. How shooting them would solve that is beyond me. The counter argument however was the royals in Sweden apparently were more inbred than the wolves.
That’s really a lot of untamed woof woof’s :/
Europe is just pathetic, people live with wilderness on their doorstep in pretty much any other continent, but here someone sees a wolf and half of the entire population needs to be killed, same with boars or anything that pussies are afraid of. “but muh farms”, literally build a fence or allow farmers to kill them if they kill their livestock, still better than intentionally hunting them and killing almost all of them for no fucking reason
As a Swede, I say fuck this. And, before anyone asks, no, I’m not from Stockholm; I’m from a small village in the countryside with about 70 people and 700 cows.
Spain: 3000 wolves. Italy: 2500 wolves
Sweden: 400 (soon to be 200?)
Wtf?
Honestly, I want to hear some objective, non-moralist arguments for bringing the wolves back. What benefits do they actually bring that we do not already have?
Far as I understand our human hunters take up the exact same ecological niche in keeping deer and moose populations down, without endangering lifestock or pets and without creating further conflict between urban and rural people. Aside from arbitrary biodiversity points and wolves being majestic, why would I *want* to have them around?
Jesus, your country too?!
I hope this plan doesn’t go through.
Finland has a wolf population around 280-320 by last year’s estimate.
The last time a wolf has killed, or even hurt a person in Finland was in 1882.
And yet many agrarian cunts feel that some of them need to be killed.
Meanwhile pretty much all scientists on the topic disagrees with the justifications for this decision…
The number of wolves is not really increasing. And the target number of ~200 is not long term sustainable.
This is so pointless and wrong to do in the modern day. If you’re a farmer that’s too stupid to use a livestock guardian dog or an electric fence to protect your animals that’s on you. It’s an unfathomably low bar that literally every other country seems to manage to hit just fine.
Ffs Europeans were some of the first peoples to breed livestock guardian dogs, Great Pyrenees, Greater Swiss Mountain Dogs, etc.
Well, the wolf population will never be allowed to migrate to the northern half of Sweden because of the Sami people and their roaming reindeer herds. They will be allowed to shoot them. Parliament in Stockholm would never adopt wolf policies which would threaten this way of life for the Sami. This means that the wolves are concentrated in a few provinces in mid-Sweden, which are more densely populated compared to the north. See map: [https://www.de5stora.com/om-rovdjuren/artfakta/varg/har-finns-vargen/](https://www.de5stora.com/om-rovdjuren/artfakta/varg/har-finns-vargen/)
There have been reports in the last couple of years of wolves seemingly being less afraid of human areas and starting to enter properties and campsites, and confirmed attacks on sheep farms. It’s not an easy situation.
Here’s a translated [article](https://www-jaktojagare-se.translate.goog/kategorier/nyheter/skot-varg-som-kom-in-till-trearig-pojke-20210426/?_x_tr_sl=sv&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp) about a father who shot a wolf outside his house after it was “especially interested” in his three-year-old.