Parents going to the Friday night Bruce Springsteen concert next year. Got a a quote for hotel… €340 for 1 night, not including breakfast (€13 pp extra). Shambles
So this is a threat that, even if it were taken seriously, would impact them by 4.5%. They’re making way more than 4.5% on the supernormal pricing at this stage.
How many hotel rooms, between Direct Provision, Emergency Accomodation, and Emergency Homeless Accomodation are the government directly procuring at the moment?
So? The greedy bastards will just up the price accordingly!!
> “It wasn’t that long ago that people said we shouldn’t build any new hotels in Dublin; they were wrong. It is important that we increase supply of hotels around the country.”
How was it pre-pandemic? Was there enough accommodation available in Dublin?
If yes, then it should go back to normal once everything settles
The biggest problem being faced is volume. Pre-pandemic, people would go on holidays at different times of the year with the usual peak times around school holidays. Some people would only holiday every second year. Now you have a population that spent 2 years not holidaying. Everyone has money saved for holidaying and want to travel, not everyone is going abroad. In Ireland we have to also contend with the influx of tourists that start this time of year. So you have a population all travelling at the same time and an increase is people in the country. The supply of accommodation that was there pre-covid was never going to handle the demand. The industry is taking advantage of what is in front of them.
So the key to helping out with high hotel rates is to make them more expensive?
There is a genuine shortage of Hotel Rooms in Dublin at the moment, leading to stupid prices – because they can get away with it.
There are a lot of hotels completely booked long-term for use of emergency accomodation, and for refugee’s/asylum seekers – in the city centre and throughout the county…… 2/3 star hotels that no longer take bookings – get full rates per room from the government and don’t have to offer kitchen services as they get outside catering from charities etc.
The Gov is once again, in another area – handing Public money, into private hands.
I’m going on holidays (family of 5) in September, I get the boat for free as an employee the €240 for 4 nights in a campsite in south Holland. We’ve been on a few holidays in Ireland over last few years but never again with the cost of everything they can go fuck themselves. Fucking greed is the root cause of most issues we’re facing today.
“Why not simply buy a house near to where you want to visit?”
Hotel rates aren’t regulated, so “overcharging” would be charging guests more than the advertised or posted rate for a room, not advertising high rates in general due to high demand and low supply. That’s just how free market capitalism works; businesses will look to charge the most profitable price for their goods and services that the market will bear.
>But he rubbished claims that Ukrainian refugees fleeing war were causing the shortage, with only approximately 5% being accommodated in Dublin and 9% of hotels around the country being used for refugees.
Aye, whatever you say Leo. It’s not like almost 10% of all hotel capacity is a huge fucking number (and increasing)
All the hotels are doing is destroying their own reputation tbh. This looks like it’s a bumper year for them but anyone who has encountered their gouging this year is unlikely to come back and they’ll also tell others of their experience.
Failte Ireland will have some job on its hands convincing overseas visitors that Ireland is a good value destination when all the existing bookings have been worked out.
That entire industry needs to be looked at anyway.
Tourism is a critical aspect of our economy but I do not understand why this industry treats employment law like it’s a suggestion rather a requirement; some ideal scenario that’s always out of reach.
Tenuous working conditions, split shifts, no benefits, no sick pay, no maternity/paternity leave, etc., etc. and, in spite of this, they’re afforded favourable VAT rates which they don’t pass on to the customer. The taxpayer is getting rode here, because *we’re* the muppets funding this entire enterprise.
If taking this industry to task means some may face closures, then so be it. If your business isn’t viable, then it isn’t viable; welcome to fucking capitalism.
What? VAT is passed onto the end customer so it’ll just be more expensive for us again
I went to west Cork on my own for a weekend. I could’ve gone with my whole family to Spain for the same amount. Flights included. I paid €19 for a plate of mussels. Just the mussels. No chips. They literally farm the mussels 200m away from the restaurant in the bay. I don’t understand it.
Yeah great idea, put up the VAT cause hotels won’t pass on the additional VAT rate to the customers. like all the times they never passed on the savings from previous VAT reductions.
…which will go straight to the price consumers pay
This could become absolutely horrendous for ireland as a tourist destination. When you are spending an arm and a leg on accomodation or transport, lesser is spent on pubs/food/attractions. Yet alone actually booking holidays in ireland at all. US visitors may be less cost sensitive, but they also dont like to be ripped off and spend more than e.g. a fully catered holiday in Hawaii or Cancun compared to a B&B holiday and massively overpriced hotels in Dublin + rental car, choice is pretty clear
I work in hospitality and earlier today they largely increased the rate for the family and friends discount too
Put the VAT back up already, its not like the hospitality industry is passing the savings on to staff wages.
€194 for a night in Gorey that’s 5* hotel pricing in Barcelona
Just bring it in. Hotels have shown their greed.
Last year it was all ‘we’re in this together’
This year its ‘supply and demand lol’
Need year when the recession hits they’ll be back with their hat in their hands as the poor pauper who was alwats just an honest small business trying to survive…
I wanted to go to Dublin one weekend. Thought about treating myself, saw the Marker Hotel, 600 euro for 1 night. Had a good lol.
Expensive rents, expensive hotels, big queues at airports, low wages, junkies in city centre.
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Parents going to the Friday night Bruce Springsteen concert next year. Got a a quote for hotel… €340 for 1 night, not including breakfast (€13 pp extra). Shambles
So this is a threat that, even if it were taken seriously, would impact them by 4.5%. They’re making way more than 4.5% on the supernormal pricing at this stage.
How many hotel rooms, between Direct Provision, Emergency Accomodation, and Emergency Homeless Accomodation are the government directly procuring at the moment?
So? The greedy bastards will just up the price accordingly!!
> “It wasn’t that long ago that people said we shouldn’t build any new hotels in Dublin; they were wrong. It is important that we increase supply of hotels around the country.”
How was it pre-pandemic? Was there enough accommodation available in Dublin?
If yes, then it should go back to normal once everything settles
The biggest problem being faced is volume. Pre-pandemic, people would go on holidays at different times of the year with the usual peak times around school holidays. Some people would only holiday every second year. Now you have a population that spent 2 years not holidaying. Everyone has money saved for holidaying and want to travel, not everyone is going abroad. In Ireland we have to also contend with the influx of tourists that start this time of year. So you have a population all travelling at the same time and an increase is people in the country. The supply of accommodation that was there pre-covid was never going to handle the demand. The industry is taking advantage of what is in front of them.
So the key to helping out with high hotel rates is to make them more expensive?
There is a genuine shortage of Hotel Rooms in Dublin at the moment, leading to stupid prices – because they can get away with it.
There are a lot of hotels completely booked long-term for use of emergency accomodation, and for refugee’s/asylum seekers – in the city centre and throughout the county…… 2/3 star hotels that no longer take bookings – get full rates per room from the government and don’t have to offer kitchen services as they get outside catering from charities etc.
The Gov is once again, in another area – handing Public money, into private hands.
I’m going on holidays (family of 5) in September, I get the boat for free as an employee the €240 for 4 nights in a campsite in south Holland. We’ve been on a few holidays in Ireland over last few years but never again with the cost of everything they can go fuck themselves. Fucking greed is the root cause of most issues we’re facing today.
“Why not simply buy a house near to where you want to visit?”
Hotel rates aren’t regulated, so “overcharging” would be charging guests more than the advertised or posted rate for a room, not advertising high rates in general due to high demand and low supply. That’s just how free market capitalism works; businesses will look to charge the most profitable price for their goods and services that the market will bear.
>But he rubbished claims that Ukrainian refugees fleeing war were causing the shortage, with only approximately 5% being accommodated in Dublin and 9% of hotels around the country being used for refugees.
Aye, whatever you say Leo. It’s not like almost 10% of all hotel capacity is a huge fucking number (and increasing)
All the hotels are doing is destroying their own reputation tbh. This looks like it’s a bumper year for them but anyone who has encountered their gouging this year is unlikely to come back and they’ll also tell others of their experience.
Failte Ireland will have some job on its hands convincing overseas visitors that Ireland is a good value destination when all the existing bookings have been worked out.
That entire industry needs to be looked at anyway.
Tourism is a critical aspect of our economy but I do not understand why this industry treats employment law like it’s a suggestion rather a requirement; some ideal scenario that’s always out of reach.
Tenuous working conditions, split shifts, no benefits, no sick pay, no maternity/paternity leave, etc., etc. and, in spite of this, they’re afforded favourable VAT rates which they don’t pass on to the customer. The taxpayer is getting rode here, because *we’re* the muppets funding this entire enterprise.
If taking this industry to task means some may face closures, then so be it. If your business isn’t viable, then it isn’t viable; welcome to fucking capitalism.
What? VAT is passed onto the end customer so it’ll just be more expensive for us again
I went to west Cork on my own for a weekend. I could’ve gone with my whole family to Spain for the same amount. Flights included. I paid €19 for a plate of mussels. Just the mussels. No chips. They literally farm the mussels 200m away from the restaurant in the bay. I don’t understand it.
Yeah great idea, put up the VAT cause hotels won’t pass on the additional VAT rate to the customers. like all the times they never passed on the savings from previous VAT reductions.
…which will go straight to the price consumers pay
This could become absolutely horrendous for ireland as a tourist destination. When you are spending an arm and a leg on accomodation or transport, lesser is spent on pubs/food/attractions. Yet alone actually booking holidays in ireland at all. US visitors may be less cost sensitive, but they also dont like to be ripped off and spend more than e.g. a fully catered holiday in Hawaii or Cancun compared to a B&B holiday and massively overpriced hotels in Dublin + rental car, choice is pretty clear
I work in hospitality and earlier today they largely increased the rate for the family and friends discount too
Put the VAT back up already, its not like the hospitality industry is passing the savings on to staff wages.
€194 for a night in Gorey that’s 5* hotel pricing in Barcelona
Just bring it in. Hotels have shown their greed.
Last year it was all ‘we’re in this together’
This year its ‘supply and demand lol’
Need year when the recession hits they’ll be back with their hat in their hands as the poor pauper who was alwats just an honest small business trying to survive…
I wanted to go to Dublin one weekend. Thought about treating myself, saw the Marker Hotel, 600 euro for 1 night. Had a good lol.
Expensive rents, expensive hotels, big queues at airports, low wages, junkies in city centre.
…state of Dublin.
Seriously, the absolute state of you.
But VAT is a cost to the customer…