There is a lot of competition out there between universities and research institutes as well as collaboration. The EU research funding allowed UK universities to collaborate with places like the Max Planck and Fraunhofer institutes in Germany to achieve great things. But it also allowed them to find out what they were doing before it appeared at conference presentations or academic papers.
As the saying goes “Keep your friends close and your enemies closer”.
The after-effects of this probably won’t be felt for a few years. Pre-brexit the UK (pop 67m) was getting about the same amount of money as Germany (pop 83m).
If only we had some kind of warning this would happen. /s
There won’t be enough people to work the fields if they’re all busy researching future technologies /s
I’m sure our Brexiteer compatriots will fill in here.
I am so scared’y pants.
Well that is mostly ok.
UK universities have lost their advantage when getting a degree from then meant nothing in the grand scheme of things. They are institutions of education and research but education should come first, and that has been problematic for a while.
If we want better research we need better students and better tutors, not a money squeeze from student loans to fund research& operations!
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Those competing institutes actually pay decent money to their researchers. 15k Vs 50k in Germany
Research, academia is the enemy of Tory belly button logic. Researchers are the ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE. High house prices GOOD. Land lords happy GOOD. Critical thinking skills BAD. Education BAD. Read your Sun and Daily Mail and shut up. All the research you need is in those papers so what’s the point of science anyway? Said some boomer brexiteer with 20 properties who’s voted Tory for the last 50 years
Many won’t care because they either don’t understand the importance of research and research collaboration, or because they do not directly experience the benefits of that research in their daily life. It is part of the anti-intellectualism that seems to pervade the UK these days. The UK has been a research powerhouse for decades now and it has helped us attract a lot of talent that will now go elsewhere if we can no longer offer the same opportunities that the likes of France and Germany can. It makes the UK look even more unfriendly to academia than it already is.
But said nothing during big debates.
This is what confuses me most about Cummings, and makes me lean towards him purely being a russian agent or just an outright idiot. He claims that he wanted the UK to leave the EU so it could become a tech/research powerhouse – he seems to think the future is in AI and big data – but leaving the EU and handing power to the johnson and the hard right tories was never going to see science, research and development flourish.
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There is a lot of competition out there between universities and research institutes as well as collaboration. The EU research funding allowed UK universities to collaborate with places like the Max Planck and Fraunhofer institutes in Germany to achieve great things. But it also allowed them to find out what they were doing before it appeared at conference presentations or academic papers.
As the saying goes “Keep your friends close and your enemies closer”.
The after-effects of this probably won’t be felt for a few years. Pre-brexit the UK (pop 67m) was getting about the same amount of money as Germany (pop 83m).
If only we had some kind of warning this would happen. /s
There won’t be enough people to work the fields if they’re all busy researching future technologies /s
I’m sure our Brexiteer compatriots will fill in here.
I am so scared’y pants.
Well that is mostly ok.
UK universities have lost their advantage when getting a degree from then meant nothing in the grand scheme of things. They are institutions of education and research but education should come first, and that has been problematic for a while.
If we want better research we need better students and better tutors, not a money squeeze from student loans to fund research& operations!
Also
Those competing institutes actually pay decent money to their researchers. 15k Vs 50k in Germany
Research, academia is the enemy of Tory belly button logic. Researchers are the ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE. High house prices GOOD. Land lords happy GOOD. Critical thinking skills BAD. Education BAD. Read your Sun and Daily Mail and shut up. All the research you need is in those papers so what’s the point of science anyway? Said some boomer brexiteer with 20 properties who’s voted Tory for the last 50 years
Many won’t care because they either don’t understand the importance of research and research collaboration, or because they do not directly experience the benefits of that research in their daily life. It is part of the anti-intellectualism that seems to pervade the UK these days. The UK has been a research powerhouse for decades now and it has helped us attract a lot of talent that will now go elsewhere if we can no longer offer the same opportunities that the likes of France and Germany can. It makes the UK look even more unfriendly to academia than it already is.
But said nothing during big debates.
This is what confuses me most about Cummings, and makes me lean towards him purely being a russian agent or just an outright idiot. He claims that he wanted the UK to leave the EU so it could become a tech/research powerhouse – he seems to think the future is in AI and big data – but leaving the EU and handing power to the johnson and the hard right tories was never going to see science, research and development flourish.