Was Rosslare to Waterford not axed because no one was using it all basically?
I appreciate the times of the trains etc. didn’t really help matters, only going once a day but is there much demand for a regular passenger service from the port to Waterford?
The Cork line should really extent out through youghal to create a loop into Waterford, rather than being a cul de sac.
Maybe also linking kerry up with clare and linking up midlands stops to create better north/south movement without needing to head all the way east to Dublin to then travel west again, which would cut down on journey times and remove the massive congestion that Dublin would have at all times.
Would the line not be Orange passing through Coleraine up North?
This would be really nice, but we need to prioritise intraurban transport.
What kind of passenger numbers would use Waterford to Rosslare line, and how much would it cost? If it was a viable route they wouldn’t have axed it.
If anything they should remove the Ballybrophy line as it is a huge waste of money, and instead extend the M3 Parkway line out as far as Navan, which would seem like a lot more viable prospect.
>It costs €550 for each passenger on the Ballybrophy line, compared to just 90 cent for each Dart passenger.
Also OP, would you actually use any of those routes that you are proposing…?
Nobody want to come see Fermanagh?
Why not extend the Dunboyne line out through Navan to Donegal? They have the train lines already but they are just used for freight. Navan also has 2 train stations but no commuter train…
There’s been a line connecting Heuston to Connolly since the 19th century and it has been used for daily services in 2016.
It’s going to be a core part of the DART+ South West project (1 of 5 DART+ projects in Greater Dublin) and there’ll a new station at Heuston West built as soon as is possible. Both initial non statutory consultations have been complete on it.
If you’re going to post stuff, please make sure it’s accurate. Just makes you come off as someone who hasn’t been on a train in at least 6 years.
Who told you the people of donegal want to visit drogheda?
re-open athlone to mulingar also
The Rosslare Europort is a brilliant service in terms of areas served but the times are shite – grand if your commuting (unless you work until 6) but fairly unusable on the weekend if you want to leave Dublin after 7pm.
They wont build good roads never mind make the country square
Eh what about Limerick – Tralee?!
Needs to be a cork – limerick direct service too, connect the entire West coast
Have you got a problem with the population of Clare?
Could probably do a line out to Bantry as well, though which route that would take would need to be studied. Could probably put it through some other towns and incentivise growth as part of a new Cork commuter belt.
Edit; Jaysus, someone doesn’t like Bantry
needs more west limerick/ north kerry
actually just needs way more limerickand kerry neither of them have half enough to be useful
Surprised the locals haven’t lifted the tracks in Balbriggan. But the map looks good.
Limerick to Foynes should be on it. That is actually likely to reopen.
I am from Donegal, if a decent rail service existed to Dublin, I would take it everytime over a car. I can’t do a bus but a train everytime.
Can we bypass Drogheda please?
wouldn’t a propper metro in Dublin be better?
Serious amount of the North left out. Poor Enniskillen and Omagh. Otherwise, great idea.
Could you add a stop at Shannon?
It’s ridiculous that a Sligo-Galway line has still not been fully considered. Student numbers between Sligo and Galway would be huge on this line, as so many come from Mayo as well. The only addition needed is Claremorris to Tuam, and they’re only half considering talking about it even.
The only way for someone from Sligo or Donegal to get to Cork is either by a mentally long bus journey, or a train from Sligo-Dublin, changing over to Heuston, and Heuston to Cork. Same with Sligo-Belfast. The northwest is totally lacking here.
For a country that prides itself on so many things, we are so far behind when it comes to public transport.
Kells, Navan, and Ashbourne’s massive Dublin commuter populations would like a word.
Connolly and Heuston are connected, sort of.
love it, but i think it needs like 2 more horizontal lines, like from dundalk to dromod to castlerea/ballyhaunis in the North and from wicklow across to limerick in the South. but maybe that’s asking just a bit too much haha
There’s already a train between Heuston and Connolly, it goes through the Phoenix park tunnel.
Nothing to Dublin Airport? Well, nothing’s changed.
Connect Navan ffs. It has a train station already.
The problem is they won’t spend the money and if they do it’ll be noisy diesel trains running at slower speeds than busses, as is the case on many lines, other than Cork – Dublin. Even the Dublin – Belfast service is ludicrously slow and easily beaten by driving in terms of journey times other than in rush hour traffic.
Most of the infrastructure is barely changed from the Victorian era and the signalling is about as basic as you can get, so high speed running isn’t even possible and nothing other than a few tens of km of coastal commuter DART line is electrified. It’s like we’ve a mental block that makes electrification of lines here some kind of unthinkable extravagance, yet far far less well resourced countries all over parts of the continent do it without any fuss and it’s seen as normal, but in Ireland – diesel rules. Frankly I’m surprised we didn’t standardise on the steam train and claim all upgrading is impossible due to inertia.
Lines on maps and no willingness to invest.
Poor old tralee and killarney could use a bit more connectivity…..shouldnt have to go to cork to get to limerick from kerry!
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10/10 would ride
Was Rosslare to Waterford not axed because no one was using it all basically?
I appreciate the times of the trains etc. didn’t really help matters, only going once a day but is there much demand for a regular passenger service from the port to Waterford?
The Cork line should really extent out through youghal to create a loop into Waterford, rather than being a cul de sac.
Maybe also linking kerry up with clare and linking up midlands stops to create better north/south movement without needing to head all the way east to Dublin to then travel west again, which would cut down on journey times and remove the massive congestion that Dublin would have at all times.
Would the line not be Orange passing through Coleraine up North?
This would be really nice, but we need to prioritise intraurban transport.
What kind of passenger numbers would use Waterford to Rosslare line, and how much would it cost? If it was a viable route they wouldn’t have axed it.
If anything they should remove the Ballybrophy line as it is a huge waste of money, and instead extend the M3 Parkway line out as far as Navan, which would seem like a lot more viable prospect.
>It costs €550 for each passenger on the Ballybrophy line, compared to just 90 cent for each Dart passenger.
https://www.thejournal.ie/alan-kelly-rural-railway-lines-3082517-Nov2016/
Also OP, would you actually use any of those routes that you are proposing…?
Nobody want to come see Fermanagh?
Why not extend the Dunboyne line out through Navan to Donegal? They have the train lines already but they are just used for freight. Navan also has 2 train stations but no commuter train…
There’s been a line connecting Heuston to Connolly since the 19th century and it has been used for daily services in 2016.
It’s going to be a core part of the DART+ South West project (1 of 5 DART+ projects in Greater Dublin) and there’ll a new station at Heuston West built as soon as is possible. Both initial non statutory consultations have been complete on it.
If you’re going to post stuff, please make sure it’s accurate. Just makes you come off as someone who hasn’t been on a train in at least 6 years.
Who told you the people of donegal want to visit drogheda?
re-open athlone to mulingar also
The Rosslare Europort is a brilliant service in terms of areas served but the times are shite – grand if your commuting (unless you work until 6) but fairly unusable on the weekend if you want to leave Dublin after 7pm.
They wont build good roads never mind make the country square
Eh what about Limerick – Tralee?!
Needs to be a cork – limerick direct service too, connect the entire West coast
Have you got a problem with the population of Clare?
Could probably do a line out to Bantry as well, though which route that would take would need to be studied. Could probably put it through some other towns and incentivise growth as part of a new Cork commuter belt.
Edit; Jaysus, someone doesn’t like Bantry
needs more west limerick/ north kerry
actually just needs way more limerickand kerry neither of them have half enough to be useful
Surprised the locals haven’t lifted the tracks in Balbriggan. But the map looks good.
Limerick to Foynes should be on it. That is actually likely to reopen.
I am from Donegal, if a decent rail service existed to Dublin, I would take it everytime over a car. I can’t do a bus but a train everytime.
Can we bypass Drogheda please?
wouldn’t a propper metro in Dublin be better?
Serious amount of the North left out. Poor Enniskillen and Omagh. Otherwise, great idea.
Could you add a stop at Shannon?
It’s ridiculous that a Sligo-Galway line has still not been fully considered. Student numbers between Sligo and Galway would be huge on this line, as so many come from Mayo as well. The only addition needed is Claremorris to Tuam, and they’re only half considering talking about it even.
The only way for someone from Sligo or Donegal to get to Cork is either by a mentally long bus journey, or a train from Sligo-Dublin, changing over to Heuston, and Heuston to Cork. Same with Sligo-Belfast. The northwest is totally lacking here.
For a country that prides itself on so many things, we are so far behind when it comes to public transport.
Kells, Navan, and Ashbourne’s massive Dublin commuter populations would like a word.
Connolly and Heuston are connected, sort of.
love it, but i think it needs like 2 more horizontal lines, like from dundalk to dromod to castlerea/ballyhaunis in the North and from wicklow across to limerick in the South. but maybe that’s asking just a bit too much haha
There’s already a train between Heuston and Connolly, it goes through the Phoenix park tunnel.
Nothing to Dublin Airport? Well, nothing’s changed.
Connect Navan ffs. It has a train station already.
[Got Bored so made my own railway headcanon too](https://imgur.com/gallery/HDcwVko)
Cork to Waterford would be nice too
The problem is they won’t spend the money and if they do it’ll be noisy diesel trains running at slower speeds than busses, as is the case on many lines, other than Cork – Dublin. Even the Dublin – Belfast service is ludicrously slow and easily beaten by driving in terms of journey times other than in rush hour traffic.
Most of the infrastructure is barely changed from the Victorian era and the signalling is about as basic as you can get, so high speed running isn’t even possible and nothing other than a few tens of km of coastal commuter DART line is electrified. It’s like we’ve a mental block that makes electrification of lines here some kind of unthinkable extravagance, yet far far less well resourced countries all over parts of the continent do it without any fuss and it’s seen as normal, but in Ireland – diesel rules. Frankly I’m surprised we didn’t standardise on the steam train and claim all upgrading is impossible due to inertia.
Lines on maps and no willingness to invest.
Poor old tralee and killarney could use a bit more connectivity…..shouldnt have to go to cork to get to limerick from kerry!