I wouldn’t wish any harm to anyone popping a pill.
But a rise in fake illegal drugs because the real ones are harder to get in is a Brexit benefit.
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I think this is an interesting point which will show the difference in approaches to drugs in this country. Personally I feel this is a negative – am all for fewer drugs being in the country, but if that’s at the cost of people’s health then that is not a good thing. Those saying that this is a Brexit benefit – I really don’t follow that. People could be taking any number of lethal concoctions and this is good? How is this a good thing?
Am not saying legalise it – but this is another opportunity missed to gain more oversight of a market which, in spite of what people would like to see, is thriving – people will take drugs either way and making this a more dangerous thing to do is a loss for everybody.
I can assure you I wasn’t in fake ecstasy over Brexit.
It’s a fuxking disaster.
Throughout my 20s and early 30s I was an occasional user of ecstasy, and things like this have happened before. Once everyone knows that pils are low quality, they generally start switching to MDMA (the powder variety).
It’s not a great system but that’s what you get with prohibition. Hopefully there can be some kind of testing of these rubbish pils to see what else has gone into them instead.
Really…we are blaming Brexit for fake Ecstasy now. FFS
Boomers: excellent news
Next week… Crop circles! Are they the latest ‘Brexit benefit’?
Fucks sake, I thought the one Brexit benefit might have been better quality gear more easily smuggled through customs.
Can’t even get that right!
Guardian really scraping the barrel for brexit stories.
legalise EVERYTHING.
Tax it and treat addicts for what they are – sick people with underlying traumas.
Where would one purchase the items? Just for scientific research purposes, obviously.
It’s 2022. something not right, let’s blame brexit, covid, or the war in the Ukraine!
Brexit and messing up drugs?
Lib Dems rise up.
Oh shit, thats brexit done. They dont get to fuck with the supply lads.
The headline blames brexit yet the article blames lockdowns and police…what gives
Oh just stamp a union jack on it it’ll be fine
These are not fake mdma, ‘e’ has always been a mix of things it was rare past the late 90’s to get pure mdma pills from street dealers.
> were made up of ingredients such as cathinones, a new psychoactive substance (NPS)
Synthetic cathinones are not new. There has been a cat and mouse for years with underground chemists tweaking molecules to get one that gives a high that hasn’t been regulated. Thats what resulted in the psychoactive drugs law so they could blanket ban any analogue.
Making MDMA legal would likely remove this industry and it has a good safety profile we have studied and known about it for decades.
is this because evil party-animal Boris Johnson has made life difficult in some way for those kind spirited drug pushers? Imagine having to make a living by selling kids at festivals potentially fatal chemicals, just because someone like Gove campaigned for people to vote to leave the EU in a free election. Maybe there should be stiffer prison sentences as a deterrent against pushing dangerous ideas like Brexit and NHS privatisation on gullible people, expecting to still be able to go on holiday for a good time.
For fucks sake if we can’t have decent pingers then what’s the point
Substance prohibition doesn’t work, people will always do drugs.
Once you accept that truth this is clearly a bad thing.
Has anyone done any research on inverse correlation between legalization and usage? I moved back to the states in 2018 at around the time that marijuana became recreationally legal in my state. It’s availability and accessibility ironically enough resulted in a lack of interest. Turns out a good bit of my “high” was derived from the pursuit
I am personally aware of the recent drop in the quality of MDMA pills due in part in Brexit, and in part due to PMK precursor shortages, causing recent (and high profile) loss of life.
People I love have died because our stupid idiot leaders won’t get the message that people always have and always will take drugs and the best they can do is try and make it as safe as possible.
Just come back to eu and we all can have better ecstasy
That’ll be all the dickheads pretending to be delighted about how ‘their’ Big Idea is working out
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I wouldn’t wish any harm to anyone popping a pill.
But a rise in fake illegal drugs because the real ones are harder to get in is a Brexit benefit.
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I think this is an interesting point which will show the difference in approaches to drugs in this country. Personally I feel this is a negative – am all for fewer drugs being in the country, but if that’s at the cost of people’s health then that is not a good thing. Those saying that this is a Brexit benefit – I really don’t follow that. People could be taking any number of lethal concoctions and this is good? How is this a good thing?
Am not saying legalise it – but this is another opportunity missed to gain more oversight of a market which, in spite of what people would like to see, is thriving – people will take drugs either way and making this a more dangerous thing to do is a loss for everybody.
I can assure you I wasn’t in fake ecstasy over Brexit.
It’s a fuxking disaster.
Throughout my 20s and early 30s I was an occasional user of ecstasy, and things like this have happened before. Once everyone knows that pils are low quality, they generally start switching to MDMA (the powder variety).
It’s not a great system but that’s what you get with prohibition. Hopefully there can be some kind of testing of these rubbish pils to see what else has gone into them instead.
Really…we are blaming Brexit for fake Ecstasy now. FFS
Boomers: excellent news
Next week… Crop circles! Are they the latest ‘Brexit benefit’?
Fucks sake, I thought the one Brexit benefit might have been better quality gear more easily smuggled through customs.
Can’t even get that right!
Guardian really scraping the barrel for brexit stories.
legalise EVERYTHING.
Tax it and treat addicts for what they are – sick people with underlying traumas.
Where would one purchase the items? Just for scientific research purposes, obviously.
It’s 2022. something not right, let’s blame brexit, covid, or the war in the Ukraine!
Brexit and messing up drugs?
Lib Dems rise up.
Oh shit, thats brexit done. They dont get to fuck with the supply lads.
The headline blames brexit yet the article blames lockdowns and police…what gives
Oh just stamp a union jack on it it’ll be fine
These are not fake mdma, ‘e’ has always been a mix of things it was rare past the late 90’s to get pure mdma pills from street dealers.
> were made up of ingredients such as cathinones, a new psychoactive substance (NPS)
Synthetic cathinones are not new. There has been a cat and mouse for years with underground chemists tweaking molecules to get one that gives a high that hasn’t been regulated. Thats what resulted in the psychoactive drugs law so they could blanket ban any analogue.
Making MDMA legal would likely remove this industry and it has a good safety profile we have studied and known about it for decades.
is this because evil party-animal Boris Johnson has made life difficult in some way for those kind spirited drug pushers? Imagine having to make a living by selling kids at festivals potentially fatal chemicals, just because someone like Gove campaigned for people to vote to leave the EU in a free election. Maybe there should be stiffer prison sentences as a deterrent against pushing dangerous ideas like Brexit and NHS privatisation on gullible people, expecting to still be able to go on holiday for a good time.
For fucks sake if we can’t have decent pingers then what’s the point
Substance prohibition doesn’t work, people will always do drugs.
Once you accept that truth this is clearly a bad thing.
Has anyone done any research on inverse correlation between legalization and usage? I moved back to the states in 2018 at around the time that marijuana became recreationally legal in my state. It’s availability and accessibility ironically enough resulted in a lack of interest. Turns out a good bit of my “high” was derived from the pursuit
I am personally aware of the recent drop in the quality of MDMA pills due in part in Brexit, and in part due to PMK precursor shortages, causing recent (and high profile) loss of life.
People I love have died because our stupid idiot leaders won’t get the message that people always have and always will take drugs and the best they can do is try and make it as safe as possible.
Just come back to eu and we all can have better ecstasy
That’ll be all the dickheads pretending to be delighted about how ‘their’ Big Idea is working out