I thought this factoid was particularly interesting, you’d imagine there would be a larger gulf in terms of availability:
>More than one-fifth (21%) of 15-year-old HBSC respondents in Ireland reported that it would
be easy or very easy to buy alcohol where they live and go to school (Figure 37) [12]. In the
2019 ESPAD, 15% of schoolchildren indicated that it would be very easy to obtain cannabis
[10]
In terms of particular substances among young people (15-24:
My dad met an old friend on Friday, they went for a few drinks and my dad told me that his friend offered him a line. They’re both 62. It’s never going away, is it?
The war on drugs is going well I see.
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CA needs more meetings in Ireland. A (Irish) relative of mine is in recovery and finds it really difficult to find meetings when he is home.
I know that’s not the point of this post just an observation
People need to be careful reading this as they might conflate this to mean that drug use is up by 170%. But this figure instead says that drug treatment and the overall healthcare response has improved where the use of the drug itself has only marginally increased in that time.
As a matter of interest, has the price of cocaine on the streets gone up or down since inflation hit? From what I believe you use diesel to make it?
I done it once when i was absolutely smashed drunk. There was peer pressure but I still made the decision to snort it.
I haven’t been drunk since and never have more than 2 pints. That was nearly 4 and a half years ago now. I can see and understand how its so addictive. For someone like myself that had a low self-esteem, it just made everything go away and I had such self value and self respect, almost nauseatingly so. I could talk to everyone, I was bulletproof.
Ive spent the last 4 and a half years trying to get that self value and self respect indigenously rather than relying on drink or drugs to do it. I havent nailed it yet BUT there’s massive improvement.
It’s getting hard to buy weed without being offered cocaine in my experience. Thanks lads, drug policy is going great.
Not even good craic either feck sake
I blame this sub.
“Oh everyone is on coke”. “I cant go a day without being offered coke by mates”. “I cant go for a shit in the pub without waiting for the lads to finish doing lines in there”.
Kids see this crap and think that everyone is doing it so why not them. Lets be frank most of the people here talking about doing coke have likely never touched the stuff and probably wouldnt know where to get any.
It’s almost like making alcohol as expensive as drugs only makes people more inclined to use drugs, all without solving any drink or drug problems at all.
I hadn’t been out in a while before Covid, so its been at least 5 years since I was out for a proper nightclub night in Dublin and I was kind of amazed by how much coke was out there now. Like I was through the pills and MDMA era of the 00’s so I’m not blind or anything, but at two different gigs the last few weeks there was just loads going around, everyone had some (Bar me coz I’m fucking old now)
Who tf has money for cocaine?
What is the treatment for cocaine use? A pack of wringleys and someone to pretend they’re listening to them for a couple of hours?
Not surprised – I’m 26 and the use of cocaine by my friends & others my age is definitely out of control at this stage
I was out in a club a few weeks ago, friends were drinking and I was designated driver. Some guy who was in the group asking if I want to have a sniff(putting finger on the side of nose, signalling to do a line) I said I was fine, not drinking, just taking it easy for the night. He asked me 3 or 4 times, I said no. I never did it, never plan to, so can people just fuck off asking me?
I’d be interested in trying it but wary of its addictive potential, and also the fact that presumably for the sake of one’s heart you’d have to forgo your coffee the day you planned to take it – but someone explain something, surely combining such a strong CNS stimulant with a strong CNS depressant like alcohol would lead to the effects ultimately being cancelled out, rather like how if one smokes weed at the same time as getting drunk, the weed doesn’t hit nearly as intensely?
Strikes me that it would have to be an either/or kind of deal. I know caffeine works well with booze as a wakefulness promoting agent but you definitely don’t get that buzzed/wired feeling that a strong dose of caffeine would normally give you if you’re having a load of pints as well, it really just staves off KOing.
I can see why ecstasy use is way up with the minimal unit alcohol pricing.
At least more people are getting treatment
I’m not mad I’m disappointed. All that money for such a mid drug. Do better
It’s a sad fact that people now need to use this to feel better about themselves and have a good time , I took it a few times years ago for the same reason, just so to have that confidence and euphoria . It goes away and a vast quantity of your wages , hence I would never take it again ;(((
Was in a pub at the weekend, jacks full of lads sniffing .
Its here for good now sadly
The pub culture has been absolutely fucking ruined thanks to coke, you go out to a pub and you can actually smell the coke in the air, lads going around pushing 60 coked out of it chatting up young girls….a sad and cringe sight to see.
I have stopped drinking in pubs and all of my friends have also because of the amount of coke users that are there, not matter what type of pub be it a fancy new one or one that’s 100 years old the coke has become a major issues
I Know more people who smoke weed and stay home or go for a hike on the weekends then go out drinking, and the people who are still going to the pub were the people doing coke before people stopped going.
now it may differ from person to person but in my experience this is what’s happening in Ireland and more and more people are saying the same thing, coke has a major grip on young lads and girls now more so then any other time in Ireland
Everyone and their nan is taking it where i am… heard some shocking names when talking to folk
Before it used to be just a bit of weed but i can get you a couple oz’s of coke faster than a bag of weed these days, its sad…
Im really glad i never got into it, but many friends have
Well what do you expect when you put the price of drink up. Probably a cheaper night out.
Hopefully the same issues with fentanyl lacing do not happen in Ireland as they do in the US.
There have been many instances of overdose from unknowing users blowing fentanyl contaminated cocaine.
Fentanyl is an opioid so it doesn’t make sense to even lace it with cocaine. But the theory is that the same dealers who deal heroin/fentanyl also deal cocaine and even the smallest contamination of fentanyl can be deadly.
Literally everyone I know between 25 and 40 has tried it.
About 70 percent use it all the time. I was offered some at a wedding last week by a 60 year old man
“If young people stopped doing cocaine they would be able to afford a house (Varadkar, 2023)”.
Consistent with my experiences. Annoying now that no one wants to do better drugs with me (hypothetical speaking of course).
My friend group are in our early 30’s, I would expect to see a bag of coke at most nights out. Its been way for years, some are much worse than others, ranging from every weekend to never touching the stuff.
It’s been getting harder the past few years to transport cocaine up through the USA border and into Canada so it’s easier to re-route and target Ireland and UK.
Use in Scotland is among the highest now too.
The more of a drug you put somewhere the more people will keep coming back for more.
I dont like coke at all…I just like the smell of it..
A few lines a new man is made..
unfortunately he wants a few lines too….
In my 20’s and 30’s a lot of people around me did cocaine.
I’m now at the age where I’m attending funerals of people in their 50’s who ”suddenly” drop dead of heart attacks.
If you use or used cocaine, never be under the illusion that it doesn’t cause permanent problems.
Im too old now and any class A would probably end up with me shitting my jocks on the couch.
But when i did partake i was never a fan of coke i much preferred a yoke or md.
Coke just felt like i drank 20 red bulls in one go.
I work in a bar in Dublin city center at the moment, and at any time or day of the week when I go to the loo there’ll usually be one cubicle with multiple girls inside chatting away and sniffing loudly. Always get customers who compliment everyone to death, have pupils like saucers and fire off massive drinks orders at the speed of light faster than any sober person could keep up with. Our DJ is always on gear, and bags have always made an appearance at work afters, actually at any time I’ve been out and about. I was at a party with a bunch of metal heads, all in our twenties, not a crew I’d expect to be on coke at all, yet lines suddenly started being offered around and done by all! All the staff at another bar nearby are on the bag. They turned up to ours the day after their staff party having rolled through and not slept for 24 hours. I guess bar staff and service industry workers are known for the work hard/ play hard mentality, but does seem like most people I know here are on the bag at some point during the week
That’s one I won’t touch. Been offered a fair few times, always turn it down. I think I’d like it too much.
I take anti depressants and would be scared to mix them with coke
Also I’m really tired of people on coke, I can’t compete with their energy. Working with them isn’t a level playing field at all. If it causes them future problems I have zero sympathy
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Full paper here: https://www.hrb.ie/publications/publication/alcohol-and-other-drug-use-among-children-and-young-people-in-ireland-prevalence-risk-and-protecti/returnPage/1/
I thought this factoid was particularly interesting, you’d imagine there would be a larger gulf in terms of availability:
>More than one-fifth (21%) of 15-year-old HBSC respondents in Ireland reported that it would
be easy or very easy to buy alcohol where they live and go to school (Figure 37) [12]. In the
2019 ESPAD, 15% of schoolchildren indicated that it would be very easy to obtain cannabis
[10]
In terms of particular substances among young people (15-24:
[alcohol use down](https://i.imgur.com/Ma78ZLL.png)
[cannabis use steady](https://i.imgur.com/eOCluVK.png)
[cocaine use slightly up](https://i.imgur.com/jylbwMx.png)
[ecstasy use way up](https://i.imgur.com/mMzA9eQ.png)
[LSD overtakes mushrooms for the first time](https://i.imgur.com/pCC4Uwq.png)
My dad met an old friend on Friday, they went for a few drinks and my dad told me that his friend offered him a line. They’re both 62. It’s never going away, is it?
The war on drugs is going well I see.
[deleted]
CA needs more meetings in Ireland. A (Irish) relative of mine is in recovery and finds it really difficult to find meetings when he is home.
I know that’s not the point of this post just an observation
People need to be careful reading this as they might conflate this to mean that drug use is up by 170%. But this figure instead says that drug treatment and the overall healthcare response has improved where the use of the drug itself has only marginally increased in that time.
As a matter of interest, has the price of cocaine on the streets gone up or down since inflation hit? From what I believe you use diesel to make it?
I done it once when i was absolutely smashed drunk. There was peer pressure but I still made the decision to snort it.
I haven’t been drunk since and never have more than 2 pints. That was nearly 4 and a half years ago now. I can see and understand how its so addictive. For someone like myself that had a low self-esteem, it just made everything go away and I had such self value and self respect, almost nauseatingly so. I could talk to everyone, I was bulletproof.
Ive spent the last 4 and a half years trying to get that self value and self respect indigenously rather than relying on drink or drugs to do it. I havent nailed it yet BUT there’s massive improvement.
It’s getting hard to buy weed without being offered cocaine in my experience. Thanks lads, drug policy is going great.
Not even good craic either feck sake
I blame this sub.
“Oh everyone is on coke”. “I cant go a day without being offered coke by mates”. “I cant go for a shit in the pub without waiting for the lads to finish doing lines in there”.
Kids see this crap and think that everyone is doing it so why not them. Lets be frank most of the people here talking about doing coke have likely never touched the stuff and probably wouldnt know where to get any.
It’s almost like making alcohol as expensive as drugs only makes people more inclined to use drugs, all without solving any drink or drug problems at all.
I hadn’t been out in a while before Covid, so its been at least 5 years since I was out for a proper nightclub night in Dublin and I was kind of amazed by how much coke was out there now. Like I was through the pills and MDMA era of the 00’s so I’m not blind or anything, but at two different gigs the last few weeks there was just loads going around, everyone had some (Bar me coz I’m fucking old now)
Who tf has money for cocaine?
What is the treatment for cocaine use? A pack of wringleys and someone to pretend they’re listening to them for a couple of hours?
Not surprised – I’m 26 and the use of cocaine by my friends & others my age is definitely out of control at this stage
I was out in a club a few weeks ago, friends were drinking and I was designated driver. Some guy who was in the group asking if I want to have a sniff(putting finger on the side of nose, signalling to do a line) I said I was fine, not drinking, just taking it easy for the night. He asked me 3 or 4 times, I said no. I never did it, never plan to, so can people just fuck off asking me?
I’d be interested in trying it but wary of its addictive potential, and also the fact that presumably for the sake of one’s heart you’d have to forgo your coffee the day you planned to take it – but someone explain something, surely combining such a strong CNS stimulant with a strong CNS depressant like alcohol would lead to the effects ultimately being cancelled out, rather like how if one smokes weed at the same time as getting drunk, the weed doesn’t hit nearly as intensely?
Strikes me that it would have to be an either/or kind of deal. I know caffeine works well with booze as a wakefulness promoting agent but you definitely don’t get that buzzed/wired feeling that a strong dose of caffeine would normally give you if you’re having a load of pints as well, it really just staves off KOing.
I can see why ecstasy use is way up with the minimal unit alcohol pricing.
At least more people are getting treatment
I’m not mad I’m disappointed. All that money for such a mid drug. Do better
It’s a sad fact that people now need to use this to feel better about themselves and have a good time , I took it a few times years ago for the same reason, just so to have that confidence and euphoria . It goes away and a vast quantity of your wages , hence I would never take it again ;(((
Was in a pub at the weekend, jacks full of lads sniffing .
Its here for good now sadly
The pub culture has been absolutely fucking ruined thanks to coke, you go out to a pub and you can actually smell the coke in the air, lads going around pushing 60 coked out of it chatting up young girls….a sad and cringe sight to see.
I have stopped drinking in pubs and all of my friends have also because of the amount of coke users that are there, not matter what type of pub be it a fancy new one or one that’s 100 years old the coke has become a major issues
I Know more people who smoke weed and stay home or go for a hike on the weekends then go out drinking, and the people who are still going to the pub were the people doing coke before people stopped going.
now it may differ from person to person but in my experience this is what’s happening in Ireland and more and more people are saying the same thing, coke has a major grip on young lads and girls now more so then any other time in Ireland
Everyone and their nan is taking it where i am… heard some shocking names when talking to folk
Before it used to be just a bit of weed but i can get you a couple oz’s of coke faster than a bag of weed these days, its sad…
Im really glad i never got into it, but many friends have
Well what do you expect when you put the price of drink up. Probably a cheaper night out.
Hopefully the same issues with fentanyl lacing do not happen in Ireland as they do in the US.
There have been many instances of overdose from unknowing users blowing fentanyl contaminated cocaine.
Fentanyl is an opioid so it doesn’t make sense to even lace it with cocaine. But the theory is that the same dealers who deal heroin/fentanyl also deal cocaine and even the smallest contamination of fentanyl can be deadly.
Literally everyone I know between 25 and 40 has tried it.
About 70 percent use it all the time. I was offered some at a wedding last week by a 60 year old man
“If young people stopped doing cocaine they would be able to afford a house (Varadkar, 2023)”.
Consistent with my experiences. Annoying now that no one wants to do better drugs with me (hypothetical speaking of course).
My friend group are in our early 30’s, I would expect to see a bag of coke at most nights out. Its been way for years, some are much worse than others, ranging from every weekend to never touching the stuff.
It’s been getting harder the past few years to transport cocaine up through the USA border and into Canada so it’s easier to re-route and target Ireland and UK.
Use in Scotland is among the highest now too.
The more of a drug you put somewhere the more people will keep coming back for more.
I dont like coke at all…I just like the smell of it..
A few lines a new man is made..
unfortunately he wants a few lines too….
In my 20’s and 30’s a lot of people around me did cocaine.
I’m now at the age where I’m attending funerals of people in their 50’s who ”suddenly” drop dead of heart attacks.
If you use or used cocaine, never be under the illusion that it doesn’t cause permanent problems.
Im too old now and any class A would probably end up with me shitting my jocks on the couch.
But when i did partake i was never a fan of coke i much preferred a yoke or md.
Coke just felt like i drank 20 red bulls in one go.
I work in a bar in Dublin city center at the moment, and at any time or day of the week when I go to the loo there’ll usually be one cubicle with multiple girls inside chatting away and sniffing loudly. Always get customers who compliment everyone to death, have pupils like saucers and fire off massive drinks orders at the speed of light faster than any sober person could keep up with. Our DJ is always on gear, and bags have always made an appearance at work afters, actually at any time I’ve been out and about. I was at a party with a bunch of metal heads, all in our twenties, not a crew I’d expect to be on coke at all, yet lines suddenly started being offered around and done by all! All the staff at another bar nearby are on the bag. They turned up to ours the day after their staff party having rolled through and not slept for 24 hours. I guess bar staff and service industry workers are known for the work hard/ play hard mentality, but does seem like most people I know here are on the bag at some point during the week
That’s one I won’t touch. Been offered a fair few times, always turn it down. I think I’d like it too much.
I take anti depressants and would be scared to mix them with coke
Also I’m really tired of people on coke, I can’t compete with their energy. Working with them isn’t a level playing field at all. If it causes them future problems I have zero sympathy