The article is written by a Corbyn critic who is the Director of the Centre Left organisation Compass.
It’s not a pro-Corbynist arguing the case, it is a man with a more nuanced opinion.
I already know that the Centrists and neoliberals will downvote this without reading any of it, so I felt that I should point this out in the comments.
Best keep to centre and centre left. Or there is next to zero chance for them.
Starmer is not a socialist.
> Back then, to everyone’s surprise – even his – Jeremy Corbyn’s leadership delivered the shock result of a 40% share of the vote. This was Labour’s 10th-highest ever poll, and its third largest vote share since 1970. Something happened half a decade ago and it’s important to unpick what.
That would be because he had a lot of support from remainers like myself willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on the assumption he couldn’t be so stupid as to continue sitting on the fence.
By 2019 there was no doubt left.
He doesn’t give a ton of examples of which policies he should actually adopt to do this. Mentions UBI, which unfortunately I don’t think is actually all that popular, and rail nationalisation, and that’s about it.
UBI would get my attention but probably lose too many others. What I most want him to adopt is electoral reform, which is something Corbyn slept on too.
I suspect what would please the most people right now is whatever he could do to make our shopping and bills a bit more affordable, so a policy that can do that will probably win him an election, regardless of where Scouse Dave with a Palestine flag in his Twitter handle fancies lazily plonking him on the political compass.
All I can say is that if Labour go full centrist Blairite in the next manifesto then its on them if it doesn’t work.
Feel free. Do it if you think its “electable”. But *no moaning about people “splitting the vote”* if the progressive people who were enthused by Corbyn vote en masse for the Green Party and end up giving the latter say 15% of the vote countrywide.
You aren’t entitled to people on the lefts votes because you’re wearing a red rosette.
Legalize weed and hold the energy companies liable for the extortionate profits they’ve made ripping the british public off, most importantly don’t let Kiers blue rosette show under his red one = Landslide.
That is, without a doubt, a proscribin’.
Come on Keir don’t do anything dumb like that just walk your free win over the line
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Why? Corbyn gave the tories an 80 seat majority.
I think this opinion piece is correct. “Corbyn was as hopeful as he was hopeless”. Starmer’s done enough to disinfect the brand, it’s time now to build some popularity and hope. Or rather it will be when we’re 6 months out from a general election.
Just needs one policy.
Electoral reform.
Lock the right out of politics for generations.
Anything else Labour promises will simply be undone when they fall out of power for yet another 2 decades.
No.
Win the election the way elections are won: by being boring and inoffensive.
Then try some left wing actual policy. Not talking, doing. Literally the opposite of corbynism which is all talk and achieves nothing.
That’s what Blair did and he saved the NHS and gave us a decade of prosperity and opportunity…
What an utterly insane article, the leader with the biggest poll lead in a decade and an approval rating 80 points higher than his predecessor should try a bit of the leader with lowest approval rating of any party leader since 1977 and the worst election defeat since the 1930’s. Corbyn’s gang are as delusional as trump’s followers.
Corbyn who lost so badly Labour will never get back some of those voters, yeah great idea.
Starmer needs to shit or get off the pot. He needs to go in guns blazing against the Tories, not this half-arsed approach he seems to be taking. Now Angela Rayner on the other hand. She can handle Boris, has a big personality, gone from nothing to being Dep Leader of Labour, can put the Tories in their place and would be the first woman to lead the Labour Party (even the Tories have done it twice!). Now before you go on about partygate, let me just state this. What, if anything, Starmer and Raynor did pales in comparison to what the people who MADE UP THE LAW TO START WITH breaking their own laws. Also, it was a drink after a very long day with a takeaway meal, not multiple intentional parties including one THE DAY BEFORE PRINCE PHILLIPS FUNERAL. To anyone unfamiliar, Prince Phillip was the husband TO THE F*****G QUEEN OF THE UK AND COMMONWEALTH. They lied to their boss to her face about all this. It’s like comparing running into the back of someone’s car to being the cause of a multiple car pile up and you happen to be Grant Shapps (transport minister). Edit: bloody autocorrect!!!
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The article is written by a Corbyn critic who is the Director of the Centre Left organisation Compass.
It’s not a pro-Corbynist arguing the case, it is a man with a more nuanced opinion.
I already know that the Centrists and neoliberals will downvote this without reading any of it, so I felt that I should point this out in the comments.
Best keep to centre and centre left. Or there is next to zero chance for them.
Starmer is not a socialist.
> Back then, to everyone’s surprise – even his – Jeremy Corbyn’s leadership delivered the shock result of a 40% share of the vote. This was Labour’s 10th-highest ever poll, and its third largest vote share since 1970. Something happened half a decade ago and it’s important to unpick what.
That would be because he had a lot of support from remainers like myself willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on the assumption he couldn’t be so stupid as to continue sitting on the fence.
By 2019 there was no doubt left.
He doesn’t give a ton of examples of which policies he should actually adopt to do this. Mentions UBI, which unfortunately I don’t think is actually all that popular, and rail nationalisation, and that’s about it.
UBI would get my attention but probably lose too many others. What I most want him to adopt is electoral reform, which is something Corbyn slept on too.
I suspect what would please the most people right now is whatever he could do to make our shopping and bills a bit more affordable, so a policy that can do that will probably win him an election, regardless of where Scouse Dave with a Palestine flag in his Twitter handle fancies lazily plonking him on the political compass.
All I can say is that if Labour go full centrist Blairite in the next manifesto then its on them if it doesn’t work.
Feel free. Do it if you think its “electable”. But *no moaning about people “splitting the vote”* if the progressive people who were enthused by Corbyn vote en masse for the Green Party and end up giving the latter say 15% of the vote countrywide.
You aren’t entitled to people on the lefts votes because you’re wearing a red rosette.
Legalize weed and hold the energy companies liable for the extortionate profits they’ve made ripping the british public off, most importantly don’t let Kiers blue rosette show under his red one = Landslide.
That is, without a doubt, a proscribin’.
Come on Keir don’t do anything dumb like that just walk your free win over the line
[deleted]
Why? Corbyn gave the tories an 80 seat majority.
I think this opinion piece is correct. “Corbyn was as hopeful as he was hopeless”. Starmer’s done enough to disinfect the brand, it’s time now to build some popularity and hope. Or rather it will be when we’re 6 months out from a general election.
Just needs one policy.
Electoral reform.
Lock the right out of politics for generations.
Anything else Labour promises will simply be undone when they fall out of power for yet another 2 decades.
No.
Win the election the way elections are won: by being boring and inoffensive.
Then try some left wing actual policy. Not talking, doing. Literally the opposite of corbynism which is all talk and achieves nothing.
That’s what Blair did and he saved the NHS and gave us a decade of prosperity and opportunity…
What an utterly insane article, the leader with the biggest poll lead in a decade and an approval rating 80 points higher than his predecessor should try a bit of the leader with lowest approval rating of any party leader since 1977 and the worst election defeat since the 1930’s. Corbyn’s gang are as delusional as trump’s followers.
Corbyn who lost so badly Labour will never get back some of those voters, yeah great idea.
Starmer needs to shit or get off the pot. He needs to go in guns blazing against the Tories, not this half-arsed approach he seems to be taking. Now Angela Rayner on the other hand. She can handle Boris, has a big personality, gone from nothing to being Dep Leader of Labour, can put the Tories in their place and would be the first woman to lead the Labour Party (even the Tories have done it twice!). Now before you go on about partygate, let me just state this. What, if anything, Starmer and Raynor did pales in comparison to what the people who MADE UP THE LAW TO START WITH breaking their own laws. Also, it was a drink after a very long day with a takeaway meal, not multiple intentional parties including one THE DAY BEFORE PRINCE PHILLIPS FUNERAL. To anyone unfamiliar, Prince Phillip was the husband TO THE F*****G QUEEN OF THE UK AND COMMONWEALTH. They lied to their boss to her face about all this. It’s like comparing running into the back of someone’s car to being the cause of a multiple car pile up and you happen to be Grant Shapps (transport minister). Edit: bloody autocorrect!!!