England fans arrested in Munich after making Nazi salutes

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  1. Why such a large minority of idiots always have to let the rest of the fans down? Why are English lads not able to go abroad without making an arse out of themselves?

    You don’t tend to see the the Scots, Welsh, or either Irish contingent doing the same? What is it about English culture specifically that sees this happen almost every time we play abroad?

  2. English people going to Germany and doing the Nazi salute.

    Someone needs to tell me what happened between 1945 and 2022.

  3. You’ve got a brilliant team setup right now but England really need to nip this in the bud when it comes to fan conduct of late.

    Poor behaviour had been practically a solved problem but those scenes in the euro final (and indeed the set of incidents leading up to it and the racial abuse of the penalty takers afterwards) isn’t stuff where Linekar and Shearer should be tight lipped on BBC coverage and everyone’s saying stuff like its “a tiny minority” or “whatabout X and Y country?!” – thats the equivalent of shrugging and saying “welcome to the Internet” when someone is being abusive online.

    Theres certainly a lot of “isolated incidents” happening…

  4. >Times: [Nations League: Fears of crowd trouble after seven England fans arrested in Munich](https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/nations-league-fears-of-crowd-trouble-as-seven-england-fans-arrested-in-munich-zmm8p0jqk)
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    >Fans are purchasing seats simply by registering as Germany supporters on their federation’s official ticket portal, with many using their hotel addresses to complete the process. The Times bought a ticket among German fans on Monday morning for €45 (about £40) using a German hotel address with a UK bank card and email address. The ticket will be returned to the German federation (DFB) for resale, with the €45 offered to a charity of its choice.
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    >England have been allocated 3,466 tickets for the Nations League match, but there were already fears that as many as 2,000 further England fans would make the trip to Bavaria, aware that the 70,000-seater Allianz Arena would not be sold out. As of Sunday night, about 53,000 tickets had been sold. By 5pm on Monday, hundreds of fans had gathered outside Ned Kelly’s, an Australian bar near the Marienplatz square, and were singing *No Surrender* before moving on to *Ten German Bombers*. There was a heavy German police presence and British police spotters. …
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    >([🪞 link](https://archive.ph/tRwYE))

  5. No doubt a large number of English fans will be singing ‘We won the war’ later on. I’m impressed there are so many nonagenarian and centenarian WW2 veterans alive and well, looking so youthful and still able to travel abroad for a football match.

  6. I don’t know the exact wording of the law but it’s a criminal offence in Germany and they take it pretty seriously. Definitely not a place I’d like to be doing nazi shit.

  7. You have to wonder how some of these fans manage to fill out a passport application. Surely the home office doesn’t accept applications filled out in crayon or signed with an “X”

  8. Fucking idiots – a 15 minute train ride out of Munich takes you to the gates of Dachau where school trips still go to learn the history of Nazism. All Nazi symbols are totally illegal in Germany for good reason.

  9. Something broken about this.

    I get England fans and English people might want to mock the Germans for having their history of Nazis, and that we fought against them and won.

    So to wind them up and exert moral superiority over their ancestors, they do a Nazi salute. Which annoys the Germans to the extent they have laws against it, because as a society they hate and fear Nazism way more than England fans.

    So that’s quite complicated. You can’t mock a country for something they hold in such shame and wariness they’ve criminalised it…or you’ll look a bit mad?

    Or am I mad? I don’t know any more.

  10. What of “When you travel to a foreign country, you should learn at least a bit of the laws in that land” didn’t they understand?

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