I’m constantly amazed the amount of coverage that Aontu, PBP and SD etc get, when between them they have low single figure polling numbers and seats.
Surprised greens are higher in 45-54 than 18-34. Weird one.
FF on 9% with 18-34 year olds is just delicious.
I find it strange that one in five 18-34 years olds would vote for FG. Having basically come of age with them in power they look at the current landscape and think “I like what I see, more of this please.”
Why would FG be leading in Dublin?
I’m sorry, how the flip is there nearly 30% of 18-34 who say they’d vote FF or FG. That’s mind-boggling.
Boomers wanna watch the world burn
I’m still amazed that given climate change and all the other factors, that the green party are so unpopular and don’t have more support.
I mean I understand completely understand why they are so unpopular but rationally it would seem that they would need to be actively sabotaging themselves to be performing this poorly across all demographs
I can at the very least see Aontú not lasting ngl, at most I can see PBP, Aontú and Social Dems not lasting
SF wouldn’t know what the hell to do if they suddenly found themselves having to implement their naive and simplistic populist policies.
Disappointing for my age bracket.
You would be shitting it if you were a government party your electorate is literally one foot in the grave .
I’m delighted to see the shift toward Sinn Fein in recent years and I hope we can see them make decisions in the next government rather than being an opposition party.
I don’t think Sinn Fein were ready for the shift in opinion coming up to the last election, hopefully they’ll be ready in the next.
I think anyone who isn’t at least the tiniest bit skeptical or scared about a potential SF government needs to evaluate why they’re voting for them. Not saying they shouldn’t, I understand the reasoning and a lot of it has merit. But they’ve not been in government before and have promised the world and more.
Brexit and Trump were both done as “any change is better than no change” options too. I personally don’t think SF is as drastic as that now, but just an example of how just because it’s change, doesn’t mean it’s good.
Social Democrats policies seem fairly reasonable to me, I wonder why they’re so unpopular.
Social media can really warp ones perception of the zeitgeist of the nation. In reality, there’s fuck all support for the far left in this country.
Why just 3 brackets though..?
I mean “behaviours and attitudes” doesn’t account for some people who won’t vote for X party due to y historical reason.
I may be misinterpreting that statement either but the following point still stands:
We don’t know how/where these people were surveyed, was it only through the Sunday times? Was it online or in paper? Did they do a similar poll in midweek papers (i.e. some people only read midweek papers, some only weekend papers).
Now, I’m not disputing the survey and it doesn’t surprise, only thing I hate is that there’s a large population of people (both Irish and foreign) who don’t seem to know about the history of the troubles, Sinn Féins involvement with the IRA. This same group also don’t know about the Blue Shirts (Fine Gael) and the whole recession thing (Fianna Fail).
Because of that above paragraph, people of all political allegiances will downvote…
Honestly, nothing will change too much if Sinn Fein take over cause they’ll be blocked, in the same way as the current government, nothing will change and we’ll go in circles of “Fine Gael/Fianna Fail” followed by “Sinn Fein/whatever other party” as a circle, nothing will change and what 1 does, the other side will undo. Also, it’s hilarious how Sinn Fein act like they can “solve” the housing crisis, what are they actually going to do? If they make rent freezes too severe, landlords will just stop renting a place out cause it’ll cost them too much (a small amount of landlords are rich, most barely brake even, despite what the media wants you to think, it’s mostly that the property will pay its own mortgage over 35 years and then sell at a profit, no monthly profit on rent, high expenses, some months operating at a loss), buy houses? As soon as the government does that, house prices will go even higher. Make it so prices can’t go above X% people just won’t sell until it’s lifted.
Point is, there’s no fix to some of the issues Sinn Fein give out about, they won’t be able to fix it because, with many of them, the consequences will lead us full circle back to where we started or somewhere worse.
I honestly have no political allegiances as I feel no party represents me, if I were to vote I’d feel like a lot of you “best of a bad lot” or “this one won’t hurt me as much as the others”.
Rant over, TL;DR: Many problems can’t be fixed and we need to question the reliability of stats, awaiting downvotes.
I genuinely hate the majority of people in this country at this stage, there will be no prosperity for the youth the way things are going. Fuck you all. I look forward to seeing this kip implode from abroad. Seriously, fuck anyone who votes FFFG, you ruined this country for your own greed.
Poor SocDems 🙁
Bloody hell. If things keep going their way this’ll be a landslide victory
Why are the columns not in the same order.
Or any logical order?
You need to dumb this down for the average person.
Also I thought we all learned how to make a block chart? I’m confused as to how this works?
(Full disclosure: I’m an SD member)
It’s likely less that the Social Democrats are unpopular, just that Sinn Fein are hoovering up the vast majority of left wing support. It’s the same reason every left leaning party are down on the previous election in these polls. SF have a highly electable media momentum behind them, so it’s no wonder they’re attracting all the support.
As a Northern Irishman, I’m slightly sceptical that SF’s left wing credentials are honest, and I don’t like their populist “cut all taxes everywhere” stance because I’d just prefer competent public spending instead. But I’m sure I’ll give them a preference, because FUCK FFG
ETA: I do think SDs probably need fresh and youthful leadership, even though I think the current leaders are two of the best TDs in the Dail right now (low bar I know but I think they have real integrity).
The whole place needs a fucking shake up
Surprised that many 55+ are SF. Would have thought they were firmly on the neoliberal bandwagon which I suppose they are with 57% for Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum.
When the next financial crisis hits, which will most likely be before the next election, it could give SF enough momentum to get a really strong majority with assistance from other parties that would do well like PBP.
Seriously , people need to start pointing out the retirement that boomers will have under ffg , start telling them there will be no room in homes we won’t have to look after them , delayed starting familys don’t have spare rooms , it’s old folks homes for them at best , state run ones at worst , let them know
Thise who are retired shouldnt be able to vote, not their taxes been spent
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34-45?…..
Soc Dems RIP
55+ still happy with the status quo!
I’m constantly amazed the amount of coverage that Aontu, PBP and SD etc get, when between them they have low single figure polling numbers and seats.
Surprised greens are higher in 45-54 than 18-34. Weird one.
FF on 9% with 18-34 year olds is just delicious.
I find it strange that one in five 18-34 years olds would vote for FG. Having basically come of age with them in power they look at the current landscape and think “I like what I see, more of this please.”
Why would FG be leading in Dublin?
I’m sorry, how the flip is there nearly 30% of 18-34 who say they’d vote FF or FG. That’s mind-boggling.
Boomers wanna watch the world burn
I’m still amazed that given climate change and all the other factors, that the green party are so unpopular and don’t have more support.
I mean I understand completely understand why they are so unpopular but rationally it would seem that they would need to be actively sabotaging themselves to be performing this poorly across all demographs
I can at the very least see Aontú not lasting ngl, at most I can see PBP, Aontú and Social Dems not lasting
SF wouldn’t know what the hell to do if they suddenly found themselves having to implement their naive and simplistic populist policies.
Disappointing for my age bracket.
You would be shitting it if you were a government party your electorate is literally one foot in the grave .
I’m delighted to see the shift toward Sinn Fein in recent years and I hope we can see them make decisions in the next government rather than being an opposition party.
I don’t think Sinn Fein were ready for the shift in opinion coming up to the last election, hopefully they’ll be ready in the next.
I think anyone who isn’t at least the tiniest bit skeptical or scared about a potential SF government needs to evaluate why they’re voting for them. Not saying they shouldn’t, I understand the reasoning and a lot of it has merit. But they’ve not been in government before and have promised the world and more.
Brexit and Trump were both done as “any change is better than no change” options too. I personally don’t think SF is as drastic as that now, but just an example of how just because it’s change, doesn’t mean it’s good.
Social Democrats policies seem fairly reasonable to me, I wonder why they’re so unpopular.
Social media can really warp ones perception of the zeitgeist of the nation. In reality, there’s fuck all support for the far left in this country.
Why just 3 brackets though..?
I mean “behaviours and attitudes” doesn’t account for some people who won’t vote for X party due to y historical reason.
I may be misinterpreting that statement either but the following point still stands:
We don’t know how/where these people were surveyed, was it only through the Sunday times? Was it online or in paper? Did they do a similar poll in midweek papers (i.e. some people only read midweek papers, some only weekend papers).
Now, I’m not disputing the survey and it doesn’t surprise, only thing I hate is that there’s a large population of people (both Irish and foreign) who don’t seem to know about the history of the troubles, Sinn Féins involvement with the IRA. This same group also don’t know about the Blue Shirts (Fine Gael) and the whole recession thing (Fianna Fail).
Because of that above paragraph, people of all political allegiances will downvote…
Honestly, nothing will change too much if Sinn Fein take over cause they’ll be blocked, in the same way as the current government, nothing will change and we’ll go in circles of “Fine Gael/Fianna Fail” followed by “Sinn Fein/whatever other party” as a circle, nothing will change and what 1 does, the other side will undo. Also, it’s hilarious how Sinn Fein act like they can “solve” the housing crisis, what are they actually going to do? If they make rent freezes too severe, landlords will just stop renting a place out cause it’ll cost them too much (a small amount of landlords are rich, most barely brake even, despite what the media wants you to think, it’s mostly that the property will pay its own mortgage over 35 years and then sell at a profit, no monthly profit on rent, high expenses, some months operating at a loss), buy houses? As soon as the government does that, house prices will go even higher. Make it so prices can’t go above X% people just won’t sell until it’s lifted.
Point is, there’s no fix to some of the issues Sinn Fein give out about, they won’t be able to fix it because, with many of them, the consequences will lead us full circle back to where we started or somewhere worse.
I honestly have no political allegiances as I feel no party represents me, if I were to vote I’d feel like a lot of you “best of a bad lot” or “this one won’t hurt me as much as the others”.
Rant over, TL;DR: Many problems can’t be fixed and we need to question the reliability of stats, awaiting downvotes.
I genuinely hate the majority of people in this country at this stage, there will be no prosperity for the youth the way things are going. Fuck you all. I look forward to seeing this kip implode from abroad. Seriously, fuck anyone who votes FFFG, you ruined this country for your own greed.
Poor SocDems 🙁
Bloody hell. If things keep going their way this’ll be a landslide victory
Why are the columns not in the same order.
Or any logical order?
You need to dumb this down for the average person.
Also I thought we all learned how to make a block chart? I’m confused as to how this works?
(Full disclosure: I’m an SD member)
It’s likely less that the Social Democrats are unpopular, just that Sinn Fein are hoovering up the vast majority of left wing support. It’s the same reason every left leaning party are down on the previous election in these polls. SF have a highly electable media momentum behind them, so it’s no wonder they’re attracting all the support.
As a Northern Irishman, I’m slightly sceptical that SF’s left wing credentials are honest, and I don’t like their populist “cut all taxes everywhere” stance because I’d just prefer competent public spending instead. But I’m sure I’ll give them a preference, because FUCK FFG
ETA: I do think SDs probably need fresh and youthful leadership, even though I think the current leaders are two of the best TDs in the Dail right now (low bar I know but I think they have real integrity).
The whole place needs a fucking shake up
Surprised that many 55+ are SF. Would have thought they were firmly on the neoliberal bandwagon which I suppose they are with 57% for Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum.
When the next financial crisis hits, which will most likely be before the next election, it could give SF enough momentum to get a really strong majority with assistance from other parties that would do well like PBP.
Seriously , people need to start pointing out the retirement that boomers will have under ffg , start telling them there will be no room in homes we won’t have to look after them , delayed starting familys don’t have spare rooms , it’s old folks homes for them at best , state run ones at worst , let them know
Thise who are retired shouldnt be able to vote, not their taxes been spent