Very classy, that’s for sure going to bring the minister in a generous mood.
How to ruin a protest for everyone + get sued
Marginaal
We all know farmers aren’t the smartest bunch
Voor 40 bedrijven die jammer genoeg moeten sluiten…
Da gaat er dan ook weer een beetje over
Inacceptable. I hope the police looks into this as a death threat.
This is rude, okay. This kind of marches on Brussels should be made illegal. On the other hand, the farmers have a point: the lax agripolicy of the last 20 years, in which farmers were constantly promised that there would be no nitrogen regulations, has led to a situation in which the problem is now much bigger than it should have been. The EU and Brussels should have intervened 20 years ago and guided farmers towards a different form of agriculture, but here the policy sided with the Farmers’ Union, the Boerenbond.
In the Netherlands you see the same scenario. There is a conspiracy theory going around that land is being taken away from farmers to house migrants. Wait until you see that going round here too!
Damn… That’s way beyond just protesting. That’s sickening.
The woman personally in my opinion is not even doing a bad job, given the circumstances.
She was presented with an issue that’s been there for a long time and that’s been ignored by her predecessors. She is trying to minimize the eventual damage by taking measures now, in return for a fair compensation, and actually starts the dialogue with the people affected by the regulation.
It’s absolutely awful if you are being asked by a government to bury your life’s work, but really, it’s to avoid worse in the near future.
She has the fact that her predecessors all did nothing, opposition from within the actual government, and the mediatisation of the case all going against her, and yet she remains fair, looking into solutions and being courageous enough to actually go around Flanders to talk with the affected people. That, in my humble opinion, deserves praise, not death threats.
God dammit…
Scumbags. If this is the way they react to quite small regulation changes, with huge exemptions for almost every farmer, and huge compensations for those not exempted…
Demir might as well push through proper regulations: “these are new, EU-compliant, proper rules. They go into effect in 2025. If your farm is not up to spec by then, you will be shut down without any compensation”.
“C4 voor Demir” was a fun slogan. This crosses the line.
Het moet wel plezant blijven é jongens
I don’t like her, but noone should have to deal with death threats.
wow, en waarom is er een instagram filter over die foto
Zo’n boeren zijn gewoon idioten en dan huilen dat er niet naar hun wordt geluisterd
Degoutant, hun eigen ministers hebben het probleen altijd op de lange baan geschoven. Wanneer er nu een minister voor voldongen feiten komt te staan en het moet proberen op te lossen beginnen ze met doodsbedreigingen.
Veeboeren zouden zich beter eens schikken aan de realiteit. Ze zitten in een verlieslatende stiel die wordt rechtgehouden door massa’s subsidies en dan gaan ze de hand die hun voedt wat bijten.
Can someone explain?
Dat de vorige ministers van landbouw alles verkloot hebben doet niet ter zake. Het is diegene die duidelijkheid creeert die de boter vret.
Animal agriculture is bankrupt. Just remove all the subsidies they receive for their products and watch it file one bankruptcy after another. The Minister is being way generous on these people because the snowflakes do not understand they are being drip fed money for ages now. They aren’t being “targeted” as the problem group, they always were for a long long time. Not even mentioning the huge subsidies on fishing even though fish is already fairly expensive to buy. Image the REAL price of that as well.
Old industry not part of modern times and not part of a modern world. No significant added value. Frankly human progress has surpassed their ancients methods. Time to clean house, get rid of them and safe the bloody world while doing it.
They are farmers. Should we really be surprised they act like this?
I live in a region with lots of farmers and have seen the farmer’s kids go to school, pubs, parties and they always came over as the classic lompe boeren zonder manieren
Probleem is ook dat veel boeren niet weten waar ze aan toe zijn en waar ze naartoe moeten werken. Binnen de familie zijn er een aantal boeren en bij de controle heeft men dus geen onderscheid gemaakt tussen een nieuwe stal met een enorme luchtwasser gekoppeld aan een mestbasin die de gassen opvangt en oudere stallen die dit niet hebben. Moeten deze oude stallen over 5 jaar sluiten of kunnen deze omgevormt worden met investeringen in filters en langer open blijven?
De boeren willen wel vaak mee en werken van smorgens tot savonds elke dag om hun bedrijf te runnen. Klimaat problemen is ook zowiezo een van de grote factoren wat boeren veel pijn kan doen.
Heard a local that was present at the protest. Not a farmer but was curious about what demir had to say. The level of aggression was really high…up to the point where he had to talk himself out of a hairy situation. Just for not being a farmer…
Yes this is a radical image that I do not agree with, but also try and imagine their side. Small farmers are investing hundreds of thousands, if not millions to be in accordance with the law, yet get shafted again and again by rule changes. That way they run out of credit and can be bought out by megafarm corpo’s who can afford to make them profitable. All under the guise of “enviromentalism”. This is modern day corruption yet again just with megafarms instead of the usual “projectontwikkelaars” who will fuck up any city they can get they greedy little hands on.
https://www.gva.be/cnt/dmf20220426_95110324 is just one example. They invested a lot to have a minimal impact on the local environment, but then the rules suddenly changed again and will now have to sell everything at a big loss.
from the comments here it’s as if each one of you got personally sprayed with manure by the boerenbond. anyway super fucking crass comment from this particular tractorist against a very competent and normally evidence driven woman
Ik liep er voorbij en dacht: wat is de MIR?
Opgezocht op Google, met verschillende termen er bij zoals milieu en landbouw, maar niks over te vinden.
En toen had ik door dat het over minister Demir ging :p
They are creating their own demise. If they don’t adapt know, the results of their actions will bite them back later.
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That’s a death threat, not a protest.
Very classy, that’s for sure going to bring the minister in a generous mood.
How to ruin a protest for everyone + get sued
Marginaal
We all know farmers aren’t the smartest bunch
Voor 40 bedrijven die jammer genoeg moeten sluiten…
Da gaat er dan ook weer een beetje over
Inacceptable. I hope the police looks into this as a death threat.
This is rude, okay. This kind of marches on Brussels should be made illegal. On the other hand, the farmers have a point: the lax agripolicy of the last 20 years, in which farmers were constantly promised that there would be no nitrogen regulations, has led to a situation in which the problem is now much bigger than it should have been. The EU and Brussels should have intervened 20 years ago and guided farmers towards a different form of agriculture, but here the policy sided with the Farmers’ Union, the Boerenbond.
In the Netherlands you see the same scenario. There is a conspiracy theory going around that land is being taken away from farmers to house migrants. Wait until you see that going round here too!
Damn… That’s way beyond just protesting. That’s sickening.
The woman personally in my opinion is not even doing a bad job, given the circumstances.
She was presented with an issue that’s been there for a long time and that’s been ignored by her predecessors. She is trying to minimize the eventual damage by taking measures now, in return for a fair compensation, and actually starts the dialogue with the people affected by the regulation.
It’s absolutely awful if you are being asked by a government to bury your life’s work, but really, it’s to avoid worse in the near future.
She has the fact that her predecessors all did nothing, opposition from within the actual government, and the mediatisation of the case all going against her, and yet she remains fair, looking into solutions and being courageous enough to actually go around Flanders to talk with the affected people. That, in my humble opinion, deserves praise, not death threats.
God dammit…
Scumbags. If this is the way they react to quite small regulation changes, with huge exemptions for almost every farmer, and huge compensations for those not exempted…
Demir might as well push through proper regulations: “these are new, EU-compliant, proper rules. They go into effect in 2025. If your farm is not up to spec by then, you will be shut down without any compensation”.
“C4 voor Demir” was a fun slogan. This crosses the line.
Het moet wel plezant blijven é jongens
I don’t like her, but noone should have to deal with death threats.
wow, en waarom is er een instagram filter over die foto
Zo’n boeren zijn gewoon idioten en dan huilen dat er niet naar hun wordt geluisterd
Degoutant, hun eigen ministers hebben het probleen altijd op de lange baan geschoven. Wanneer er nu een minister voor voldongen feiten komt te staan en het moet proberen op te lossen beginnen ze met doodsbedreigingen.
Veeboeren zouden zich beter eens schikken aan de realiteit. Ze zitten in een verlieslatende stiel die wordt rechtgehouden door massa’s subsidies en dan gaan ze de hand die hun voedt wat bijten.
Can someone explain?
Dat de vorige ministers van landbouw alles verkloot hebben doet niet ter zake. Het is diegene die duidelijkheid creeert die de boter vret.
Animal agriculture is bankrupt. Just remove all the subsidies they receive for their products and watch it file one bankruptcy after another. The Minister is being way generous on these people because the snowflakes do not understand they are being drip fed money for ages now. They aren’t being “targeted” as the problem group, they always were for a long long time. Not even mentioning the huge subsidies on fishing even though fish is already fairly expensive to buy. Image the REAL price of that as well.
Old industry not part of modern times and not part of a modern world. No significant added value. Frankly human progress has surpassed their ancients methods. Time to clean house, get rid of them and safe the bloody world while doing it.
They are farmers. Should we really be surprised they act like this?
I live in a region with lots of farmers and have seen the farmer’s kids go to school, pubs, parties and they always came over as the classic lompe boeren zonder manieren
Probleem is ook dat veel boeren niet weten waar ze aan toe zijn en waar ze naartoe moeten werken. Binnen de familie zijn er een aantal boeren en bij de controle heeft men dus geen onderscheid gemaakt tussen een nieuwe stal met een enorme luchtwasser gekoppeld aan een mestbasin die de gassen opvangt en oudere stallen die dit niet hebben. Moeten deze oude stallen over 5 jaar sluiten of kunnen deze omgevormt worden met investeringen in filters en langer open blijven?
De boeren willen wel vaak mee en werken van smorgens tot savonds elke dag om hun bedrijf te runnen. Klimaat problemen is ook zowiezo een van de grote factoren wat boeren veel pijn kan doen.
Heard a local that was present at the protest. Not a farmer but was curious about what demir had to say. The level of aggression was really high…up to the point where he had to talk himself out of a hairy situation. Just for not being a farmer…
Yes this is a radical image that I do not agree with, but also try and imagine their side. Small farmers are investing hundreds of thousands, if not millions to be in accordance with the law, yet get shafted again and again by rule changes. That way they run out of credit and can be bought out by megafarm corpo’s who can afford to make them profitable. All under the guise of “enviromentalism”. This is modern day corruption yet again just with megafarms instead of the usual “projectontwikkelaars” who will fuck up any city they can get they greedy little hands on.
https://www.gva.be/cnt/dmf20220426_95110324 is just one example. They invested a lot to have a minimal impact on the local environment, but then the rules suddenly changed again and will now have to sell everything at a big loss.
from the comments here it’s as if each one of you got personally sprayed with manure by the boerenbond. anyway super fucking crass comment from this particular tractorist against a very competent and normally evidence driven woman
Ik liep er voorbij en dacht: wat is de MIR?
Opgezocht op Google, met verschillende termen er bij zoals milieu en landbouw, maar niks over te vinden.
En toen had ik door dat het over minister Demir ging :p
They are creating their own demise. If they don’t adapt know, the results of their actions will bite them back later.