Why does the flag of st gallen have the same symbol on the flag of the italian fascist party?

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  1. Because this is a symbol which stems from the Roman empire and is much older than the fascist party was.

  2. The axe and stick symbol is called a fasces and it dates back to the times of Ancient Rome. It is a symbol of power, unity, and authority. I think that is really the only connection between modern fascist symbology in Italy and SG. Presumably, the fact that much of Switzerland used to be in the Roman empire is why it has meaning here.

  3. OP’s subs, Hrmm… drugs, circle jerk, and political compass. Interesting. Meanwhile I’m over here enjoying my gaming and random Swiss bits.

  4. Seeing the subreddits you go to, you should know how some groups especially extremists tend to appropriate symbols. Like who would try to abuse a letter that’s not even in their alphabet to make it a symbol of a war they are losing.

  5. Similarly to the Nazis, the Fascists adopted old unrelated symbols and misused them for their own propaganda.

  6. The flag was designed after the creation of the canton in 1803, at the time the fasces were one of the main republican symbols, and were thus chosen to represent the new republic and their ideal of egality between citizens, a politically contested idea at the time. (Conservative people wanted to get rid of the republic and go back to durect democracy, while liberals preferred a representative republic with limited rights to vote. Plus the usual conflicts between catholics and protestans)
    The 8 sticks of the fasces also represent the eight districts of the canton, the green symbolises liberty, and was the color of the liberals at the time, it was taken from the flag of the Helvetic Republic. And the white is innocence because the canton was young and trying to be not like the injust old times.
    An interesting bit is that by the 1930′ having fasces on your flag suddenly had a whole new meaning, so the canton added a swiss cross on the axe to make the flag a bit more distant from the fascist symbol. [The not fascist flag](https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Drapeau_et_armoiries_du_canton_de_Saint-Gall&oldid=190201698#/media/Fichier%3AAlternative_Flag_of_Canton_of_Saint-Gall_(late_30's-1951).svg ) was in use until 1951, at which point the association with fascism was mostly out of minds.

    Source : [Drapeau et armoiries du canton de Saint-Gall](https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Drapeau_et_armoiries_du_canton_de_Saint-Gall&oldid=190201698) by Ngagnebin et al, published on Wikipedia fr, 2022.

  7. The motif of the St. Gallen coat of arms originates from ancient Rome. When persons of high rank, such as judges, appeared in public, they were preceded by at least two lictors who served as bodyguards. These carried a bundle of rods with an axe as a symbol of judicial power.

    The eight rods in the bundle, of which only five are visible, symbolize today’s eight constituencies of the Canton of St. Gallen, the former districts. The ribbons symbolize cohesion and the axe power.

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