Shock….horror! Mary down the road told us all she was taking two families…but since then …somethings come up. She’s back to Facebook now giving out about shite that people need to fix
All that grandstanding we were doing over the Brits. Not an ounce of a plan. This is the way.
Ah we love an aul bit of virtue signalling, as long as we don’t need to follow through. All those Ukrainian flags for profile pictures, sure isn’t that just as good as keeping the promise to house those war refugees…
I for one am shocked and a little bit stunned to be honest 93% is a lot lower than I expected.. Good job guys mini Ukrainian flags for everyone.
from the very beginning we knew this was going to be shit show, government over promised to look good despite the fact that we have ongoing housing crisis. if i remember correctly they were planning to accept 100k Ukrainians. government manage to put these people into difficult situation as well as its own citizens. grand job as usual
My parents and some of their empty nester friends had pledged accommodation. The Irish Red Cross got in contact with some of them and advised against it if their houses weren’t within walking distance of public transport. They also recommended not taking anyone if there wasn’t a second bathroom in the house that they could have sole access to.
You can say it was “virtue signalling” or hypocrisy but for a lot of people who pledged accomodation and genuinely intended on housing refugees, there are many practicalities that stopped them.
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We as a country love being seen as the people to do the right thing and get patted on the back for it. I’ve no doubt a lot of people dedicated accommodation in good faith but the problem is the government had no plan whatsoever for this.
They can’t even accommodate all the regular asylum seekers (13k new applications predicted for this year which does not include Ukrainians) as no one ever leaves the accommodation. It’s a massive problem and while the media and NGOs tut tut about direct provision as if it’s a nazi camp the real issue is missed.
The problem, as I see it, is no one ever leaves the accommodation whether they are granted refugee status, failed asylum seekers or even inadmissible to the process due to being granted in another member state. Literally no one leaves unless they leave of their own accord. The system is completely broken until we have a functioning system this problem will get worse.
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We offered up our cabin out back, it’s lovely and warm and has beds. Red Cross rang once, I told them we could take a mother and 2 kids, never heard back. Only one bathroom in the house so that might have been the reason.
My parents pledged but never got a call
It’s not just people cancelling. We pledged the first day and red cross only got as far as Garda vetting us this week! Terribly slow roll out, our offer has been in place since the start of the war and still is, I’d imagine a lot of people in the same boat
A lot of people here assuming that 93% of people who pledged a property our a room have reneged and that’s simply not true. The Red Cross seem to be very quick to rule out properties and very slow to handle the volume of pledges. We volunteered as soon as the service was advertised. Waited 6 weeks to be contacted initially and then another 6 weeks before we were contacted to be garda vetted. That vetting was processed in 48 hours yet we’ve heard nothing since.
My folks pledged accommodation within the first few weeks of the war starting and still no one has been placed. So at least some of it is logistics rather than Mary and John down the road wanting to show what good citizens they are and then backing out after realizing it’s going to be a pain in the hole.
Signed up and heard nothing back. TBH I probably miscalculated or misread the situation. First off, I imagined it was a stop gap before something else was organised, what? I don’t know but some sort of designated EU sponsored Refugee camps. Also, because it was a war situation I thought it was just get people in quick and fast; I of course wanted the place to be nice and suitable for them but one of the places I had in mind was our attic but I don’t think that would pass the checks by the Red Cross.
I wonder will Ukrainians start to return there now that the situation while ongoing is just part of everyday life? Surely there are regions/areas of Ukraine given its vastness where Russians haven’t come close to.
I love that the these organisations want the gaffs to have a second bathroom but yet couldn’t give a fuck about the state of rented properties. Charities are full of virtue signalling arses
I remember they put something up about the requirements one of which was being walking distance to shops and public transport. RIP most of Ireland that isn’t basically town centers.
If anyone does want to host a family, we went through our local parish centre and it worked far quicker than the Red Cross. We met the family before they moved in and they got to look around before agreeing. Parish also sorted out a car for them. We still have to help them a lot but it’s really worthwhile.
Not surprising. Was a disaster from the get go, like everything else in Ireland
So it’s not just the Government who are full of shit. The Irish people talk a good game but don’t follow through. Bullshitters and hypocrites.
Antidotally, I saw on social media a good deal of hosts got sick of waiting and organised their own people through Facebook groups. Apparently when the Red Cross eventually made contact, it was marked as ‘withdrawn pledge’ instead of ‘we were too slow to get organised, they’ve already got their own Ukrainians in’.
Also, some pledges seem to be approaching it as unpaid home help plus receiving income of the €400 payment. A few families thought they were getting free childcare by taking a Ukrainian in, and I know of two young women returned to City West when they refused to be free childcare as they were registered for English classes etc. Others thought they were getting free carers for granny, one with heavy dementia. It’s not as altruistic as some make out.
It’s a big commitment to share a home with strangers long term, fish and company smell after three days and all that. We personally realised we couldnt commit to accommodation, partly because we may need to accommodate my partners family if things escalate, but we can help in other ways.
Asolute joke that so many offers have been rejected. Unless its a very large well maintained house with multiple bathrooms in the suburbs of a city then its not an option. Most of rural Ireland has no public transport and most houses in general don’t have a couple of well appointed en-suite spare rooms laying idle. It’s actually sad. I’d gladly prefer a room with a shared bathroom to living on the floor of a community centre with hundreds of other people.
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Shock….horror! Mary down the road told us all she was taking two families…but since then …somethings come up. She’s back to Facebook now giving out about shite that people need to fix
All that grandstanding we were doing over the Brits. Not an ounce of a plan. This is the way.
Ah we love an aul bit of virtue signalling, as long as we don’t need to follow through. All those Ukrainian flags for profile pictures, sure isn’t that just as good as keeping the promise to house those war refugees…
I for one am shocked and a little bit stunned to be honest 93% is a lot lower than I expected.. Good job guys mini Ukrainian flags for everyone.
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from the very beginning we knew this was going to be shit show, government over promised to look good despite the fact that we have ongoing housing crisis. if i remember correctly they were planning to accept 100k Ukrainians. government manage to put these people into difficult situation as well as its own citizens. grand job as usual
My parents and some of their empty nester friends had pledged accommodation. The Irish Red Cross got in contact with some of them and advised against it if their houses weren’t within walking distance of public transport. They also recommended not taking anyone if there wasn’t a second bathroom in the house that they could have sole access to.
You can say it was “virtue signalling” or hypocrisy but for a lot of people who pledged accomodation and genuinely intended on housing refugees, there are many practicalities that stopped them.
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We as a country love being seen as the people to do the right thing and get patted on the back for it. I’ve no doubt a lot of people dedicated accommodation in good faith but the problem is the government had no plan whatsoever for this.
They can’t even accommodate all the regular asylum seekers (13k new applications predicted for this year which does not include Ukrainians) as no one ever leaves the accommodation. It’s a massive problem and while the media and NGOs tut tut about direct provision as if it’s a nazi camp the real issue is missed.
The problem, as I see it, is no one ever leaves the accommodation whether they are granted refugee status, failed asylum seekers or even inadmissible to the process due to being granted in another member state. Literally no one leaves unless they leave of their own accord. The system is completely broken until we have a functioning system this problem will get worse.
ShockedPikachu.jpg
We offered up our cabin out back, it’s lovely and warm and has beds. Red Cross rang once, I told them we could take a mother and 2 kids, never heard back. Only one bathroom in the house so that might have been the reason.
My parents pledged but never got a call
It’s not just people cancelling. We pledged the first day and red cross only got as far as Garda vetting us this week! Terribly slow roll out, our offer has been in place since the start of the war and still is, I’d imagine a lot of people in the same boat
A lot of people here assuming that 93% of people who pledged a property our a room have reneged and that’s simply not true. The Red Cross seem to be very quick to rule out properties and very slow to handle the volume of pledges. We volunteered as soon as the service was advertised. Waited 6 weeks to be contacted initially and then another 6 weeks before we were contacted to be garda vetted. That vetting was processed in 48 hours yet we’ve heard nothing since.
My folks pledged accommodation within the first few weeks of the war starting and still no one has been placed. So at least some of it is logistics rather than Mary and John down the road wanting to show what good citizens they are and then backing out after realizing it’s going to be a pain in the hole.
Signed up and heard nothing back. TBH I probably miscalculated or misread the situation. First off, I imagined it was a stop gap before something else was organised, what? I don’t know but some sort of designated EU sponsored Refugee camps. Also, because it was a war situation I thought it was just get people in quick and fast; I of course wanted the place to be nice and suitable for them but one of the places I had in mind was our attic but I don’t think that would pass the checks by the Red Cross.
I wonder will Ukrainians start to return there now that the situation while ongoing is just part of everyday life? Surely there are regions/areas of Ukraine given its vastness where Russians haven’t come close to.
I love that the these organisations want the gaffs to have a second bathroom but yet couldn’t give a fuck about the state of rented properties. Charities are full of virtue signalling arses
I remember they put something up about the requirements one of which was being walking distance to shops and public transport. RIP most of Ireland that isn’t basically town centers.
If anyone does want to host a family, we went through our local parish centre and it worked far quicker than the Red Cross. We met the family before they moved in and they got to look around before agreeing. Parish also sorted out a car for them. We still have to help them a lot but it’s really worthwhile.
Not surprising. Was a disaster from the get go, like everything else in Ireland
So it’s not just the Government who are full of shit. The Irish people talk a good game but don’t follow through. Bullshitters and hypocrites.
Antidotally, I saw on social media a good deal of hosts got sick of waiting and organised their own people through Facebook groups. Apparently when the Red Cross eventually made contact, it was marked as ‘withdrawn pledge’ instead of ‘we were too slow to get organised, they’ve already got their own Ukrainians in’.
Also, some pledges seem to be approaching it as unpaid home help plus receiving income of the €400 payment. A few families thought they were getting free childcare by taking a Ukrainian in, and I know of two young women returned to City West when they refused to be free childcare as they were registered for English classes etc. Others thought they were getting free carers for granny, one with heavy dementia. It’s not as altruistic as some make out.
It’s a big commitment to share a home with strangers long term, fish and company smell after three days and all that. We personally realised we couldnt commit to accommodation, partly because we may need to accommodate my partners family if things escalate, but we can help in other ways.
Asolute joke that so many offers have been rejected. Unless its a very large well maintained house with multiple bathrooms in the suburbs of a city then its not an option. Most of rural Ireland has no public transport and most houses in general don’t have a couple of well appointed en-suite spare rooms laying idle. It’s actually sad. I’d gladly prefer a room with a shared bathroom to living on the floor of a community centre with hundreds of other people.