Why do Norwegians use this pennant so often instead the national flag?

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  1. The traditional flag is mostly used for more formal occasions, like national flag days, kings birthday, national day and so on. These types are more informal, it still counts as a full fledged flag but more for “daily use” if that makes sense. There are also rules for when a normal flag has to be taken down (sun down, or specific time during the summer due to long days). This one can stay up all day.

    It’s called a “Vimpel” in norwegian.

  2. it’s customary to only fly the “proper” flag on special days, birthdays, or when somebody died.
    The one in your picture can be flown whenever anyone feels like it.

    Is that weird? yes, very.

    On a bit of a sidenote, I’m quite happy about it being normal for our flag being seen and used frequently. I lived in Sweden for a time, and while i’d be happy to be contradicted by Swedish people if i’m wrong on this, the feeling I got was that it was seen as a bit of a red flag(hah) for like right leaning anti-immigrantism to be displaying it randomly. Or to some degree, even on particular days.

    While i really enjoyed my time over the border with “söta bror”, that was a dynamic I didn’t love, and I hope we avoid in Norway.

  3. Flaggtidene er ikke lov-regulert, men for offentlige bygninger omtales de i forskrift om bruk av flagg fra 1927. I denne forskriftens paragraf 6 står følgende: «Flagget heises i månedene mars til og med oktober kl. 0800, i månedene november til og med februar kl. 0900. Flagget hales ved solnedgang, dog ikke senere enn kl. 2100 hvis solen går ned etter denne tid. I fylkene Nordland, Troms og Finnmark heises flagget i månedene november til og med februar kl. 1000 og hales kl. 1500.» Dette gjelder altså for offentlige bygninger. Mange privatpersoner følger også dette, men det er ingen lov. Privatpersoner i Norge kan heise flagget når de vil, og også hvor lenge de vil.

    Det gjelder noen spesielle flaggregler ved dødsfall. Vi flagger på halv stang som et tegn på sorg. Når man heiser det norske flagg på halvstang så skal det skje på en bestemt måte. Først heiser man flagget helt til topps i flaggstangen for så å umiddelbart fire det ned på halv stang. Med “halv stang” mener man i denne sammenhengen 1/3 fra toppen. Når man skal fire ned flagget om kvelden skal man først heise flagget til topps for deretter å fire det helt ned. Etter endt bisettelse skal man i henhold til de norske flaggreglene heise flagget helt til toppen av flaggstangen for å hedre den avdøde.

    english google translate (cause im lazy):

    Flag times are not regulated by law, but for public buildings they are mentioned in regulations on the use of flags from 1927. Section 6 of these regulations states the following: «The flag is raised in the months of March to October at 0800, in the months of November through February at 0900. The flag is hauled at sunset, but not later than kl. 2100 if the sun goes down after this time. In the counties of Nordland, Troms and Finnmark, the flag is raised in the months of November to February at 1000 and hauled at. 1500. » This therefore applies to public buildings. Many individuals also follow this, but there is no law. Private individuals in Norway can hoist the flag whenever they want, and also for as long as they want.

    There are some special flag rules in case of death. We flag at half mast as a sign of grief. When you hoist the Norwegian flag on a half pole, it must happen in a certain way. First you lift the flag all the way to the top of the flagpole and then immediately lower it to half a pole. By “half rod” is meant in this context 1/3 from the top. When lowering the flag in the evening, first raise the flag to the top and then lower it completely. After the funeral, according to the Norwegian flag rules, the flag must be hoisted all the way to the top of the flagpole to honor the deceased.

    taken from:
    [https://www.langkilde-flagg.no/norske-flaggregler/](https://www.langkilde-flagg.no/norske-flaggregler/)

    ———————– other ref:

    [https://lovdata.no/dokument/NL/lov/1898-12-10-1?q=flaggloven](https://lovdata.no/dokument/NL/lov/1898-12-10-1?q=flaggloven)

    [https://lovdata.no/dokument/NL/lov/1933-06-29-2](https://lovdata.no/dokument/NL/lov/1933-06-29-2)

    ———————-

    u/Jiggy-Spice – tell that Karen to show her opinion up where sun dont shine.

  4. As much as I love the Scandinavian flag solidarity I actually think it would be cool if they came up with something to replace the explicitly religious cross symbol on them.

  5. The pennant tradition likely comes from maritime and naval traditions, and Norway’s traditionally had a large fishing and merchant fleet.

  6. There are rules about flags on government buildings and official buildings. No rules for private buildings. So you can do what ever you want. But that flag the “vimpel” is like saying I’m home or you put it up when you’re at your cabin

  7. iirc The vimpel is (was) a Point of pride for Norwegians as Norway wasn’t granted the right of a sovereign flag in 1814 when the union with Denmark ended and the one with Sweden began, but we were allowed a vimpel. The vimpel became a symbol of the growing nationalist romanticism of the era and was widely used

  8. Full sized flags get a LOT of wear and tear on windy days, and you’re not supposed to fly a damaged flag.

    There are also a lot of other rules regarding raising a lowering the full flag which can be labour intensive on a daily basis.

    The pennant flag is more wind resistant, and does not fall under a lot of those other rules.

    It’s just a lot more functional overall, and allows the full flag to be reserved for special occasions.

  9. Those flags don’t need to be taken down. Other flags need to be taken down when the sun has gone down or no later than 9pm

  10. There is so many holidays in Norway, we use these ones when we are not exactly sure which one it is.

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    /s

  11. In old flag culture it was seen as offensive to use the normal flag whenever it wasn’t a special occasions. And to this day our calendars still have “flag days” whenever it’s “acceptable” to use the actual flag.
    In fact it’s technically illegal to use the normal flag outside of this date (unless it’s someone in the house’s birthday) on those big flag poles.
    It’s also technically illegal to flag any flag that isn’t Norwegian on these same poles (unless it’s outside of an embassy), unless they are triangular like the one on the pic. (Like, Sweden and Denmark also have these triangular ones, so sometimes you’ll find those outside of certain stores).
    So to combat that the “vimpel” was invented. And, despite us not wanting to admit it, many people in Norway are quite old fashioned when it comes to national pride, so we prefer the “vimpel” on normal days over the flag. It sort of makes the flag more special too. 😊
    Hope this helps 🇳🇴🇳🇴🇳🇴

  12. The official flag rules are very strict, they include stuff like “No ship at anchor should run a flag at night, but always if moving.”

    Similarly, the flag is supposed to go up and down at sunrise/sunset, but with Norwegian extremely short nights in summer and similarly short days in winter, there are fallback rules stating time of day instead of sunrise/sunset. Typical times for summer is 0800 to 2100, much shorter in winter up north.

    The pennant is _not_ a flag, so it can hang 24×7.

    No flag should be allowed to be worn/tattered: If you cannot repair it then it must either be burned or split apart along the seams, into individual colors.

    A flag must be sewn together from the proper red/white/blue fabric pieces. If it is printed (like a lot of children’s May 17th flags, then it isn’t actually a flag.

    When hoisted on a flag pole (to the very top) and hanging down (no wind), the bottom tip should reach down to the 2/3 spot on the pole. I.e. since a flag has the 6-1-2-1-6 by 6-1-2-1-12 (16 by 22) proportion, the diagonal will be approx 27.2 and the pole needs to be 81-82 units tall.

    For a funeral the flag is raised to the top, then dropped down one third, so that it covers the middle 1/3 of the pole.

  13. We use same kind of “flags” in Latvia. It’s more informal, like for everyday use. But national flag is for some important days.

  14. As usual the most upvoted comment is not correct here on reddit. This seems to be a rule rather than an exemtion.

    This is flag popular due to the miconseption represented by the top comment.

    Flag rules only apply to official buildings, not to private houses/properties. So you could flag the Norwegian flag 24/7 and be within the offiicial flag rules. But many people don’t know the rules, so they fly the “vimpel” showed in your picture instead, since there is a popular and wrong belief that vimpel is allowed to flag 24/7 and the flag is not.

    Awaiting the incoming downvotes…

  15. People here are wrong. You are allowed to flag at any days.

    However, there are rules for when you must put up and take down the flag, which is a lot of effort to follow. The “vimpel” that you posted an image of does not have these rules, making it more suitable for casual use.

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