Herr Spahn does _not_ beat around the bush. Crystal clear statement.
That’s such a non-statement to make in a pandemic time.
The “3G-Rules” could be translated with “3ED-Rules”: Vaccinat**ed**, Cur**ed** or Test**ed**.
Now it is “Vaccinated, Cured or Dead”.
I did read ‘cured’ as in cured as a Schwarzwälder schinken .
Most humans will be either alive or dead tomorrow. I’m 14 and this is deep.
Is it okay if we call this “Final solution”?
Not just Germans, but everywhere. Delta doesn’t joke around and plenty of people still think “ignored” is the fourth option. They’ll end up in any of the first three.
Good news. We can end the pandemic stuff now and move on.
So, more or less, he announced a deadline for Germany : after winter, all restrictions about Covid will be senseless, because all people would have been contaminated, weaker ones dead and life may continue for other ones.
Scum bag politician.
Sidenote: weekend brings snow in Germany. Winter is coming
Sounds like a nazi move
That sounds like a threat.
Sounds like he is basically announcing mandatory vaccination, which newsflash: has legal precedence and is actually very much legal as long as the government can prove it’s need.
After all the 2nd article of the constitution that anti-vaxxers love to cite
> (1) Everyone shall have the right to the free development of his personality, provided that he does not infringe the rights of others and does not violate the constitutional order or moral law.
> (2) Everyone shall have the right to life and physical integrity. The freedom of the person shall be inviolable. These rights may be interfered with only on the basis of a law.
Goes both ways: “physical integrity” also means the government has a DUTY to make sure there is no threat to health running wild in the population. So in that sense mandatory vaccination can be VERY much in tune with the 2nd article.
In general, epidemic laws are more or less a subset of martial law. Rights can be suspended as much in such a situation as they could be if e.g. a country was being invaded by a hostile force. Most constitutions have disasters such as a deadly epidemic as one of THE exceptions that allows the suspension of certain rights.
Finally, Germany is a society based on solidarity with our welfare system. That also means having to make personal sacrifices for your fellow citizen. One of these sacrifices means having to get vaccinated even if you don’t want to for the sake of neighbor. This is a *duty* of citizen as lined out by the solidarity societal model Germany follows.
If you can’t be arsed to even do this little of a sacrifice for your fellow citizen, then in my opinion you have no place in our society.
The German version of “Fuck, Marry, Kill”.
Based.
Bit too morbid for my liking. Surely theres a better way to phrase this ? Or is it just classic German bluntness. Maybe someone can enlighten me here.
Wait, I thought there wasn’t a cure for it yet, even the vaccine doesn’t cure you, you can still get it after you’ve already had it as well.
i hope so! open up quick so that end can come a lot faster.
You can be all 3 or a combination of them
☐ Needle
☐ Blade
Achtung! Pick your jab! Jetzt!!
​
^(/humor)
sure sounds german
Having the lockdown exit wave in the late autumn seems pretty stupid eh?
Sounds like a final solution.
And they say ze Germans have no sense of humour.
not enuf of them!
Good.
I tried explaining this to my Dad, unsuccessfully.
I was telling him, there are 3 ways you get through Covid, short of being miraculously lucky.
You either get the vaccine and hopefully avoid Covid or barely notice it, you just get Covid and gamble on your outcome (for him this was especially concerning, as he’s been smoking cigarettes longer than I’ve existed on this earth, doesn’t take care of himself, and didn’t take any precautions). Once you get Covid, you’ll either get better or die…and I’d prefer you avoid the latter option.
Sure enough, about a month ago, I get a call from his hospital. They’re calling to tell me he was brought in with a heart attack and they tested him for Covid and found that he tested positive.
Fortunately for him, he survived the heart attack and spent 10 days in the hospital without needing to go on anything more than oxygen, which was likely just as much for his smoking as it was Covid.
Now a few weeks after, he’s still hesitant to get vaccinated, but is pretty interested in getting a steroid shot, because he “heard from someone at church” that they did it and their long Covid symptoms cleared up.
Nevermind that these symptoms could well be because he’s not taking care of his blood sugar or even monitoring it…but, oh well. At this point I’d likely have more like convincing my dog to go sign up for a vaccine.
If he dies, he dies
Since most germans are already vaccinated, most germans are vaccinated, cured or dead right now.
Everybody seems to be amazed about how “german” this statement is (because he mentions that people die?), but as a german it strikes me how this is a statement of a politician, who is not willing to take a risk by making a prognosis, that has any chance of not being (or becoming) true.
Jens du Hampelmann!
Little did he know that vaccines don’t do anything in the ways of actually eradicating covid, and they’re only insuring the sick don’t end up in the ICU.
In fact there is no medication that actively kills covid cells, and covid will always be here, hiding in every human body like many other diseases such as the flu, just waiting for the body to become weak, so it can flare up.
Buuu some of you will die. No shit?
I mean technically he’s right since a majority is already vaccinated so…
Why be one when you can be all three? 🤔
I really think they should reconsider how that sounds
News flash: most Germans are already vaccinated, cured or dead.
Personally, what I really appreciate in Germany and even here on /r/Europe :
Many people tend to dislike this man – but never ever have I read a homophobic comment. That’s how it should be. No one should be interested in his private life, only in his political work.
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Herr Spahn does _not_ beat around the bush. Crystal clear statement.
That’s such a non-statement to make in a pandemic time.
The “3G-Rules” could be translated with “3ED-Rules”: Vaccinat**ed**, Cur**ed** or Test**ed**.
Now it is “Vaccinated, Cured or Dead”.
I did read ‘cured’ as in cured as a Schwarzwälder schinken .
Most humans will be either alive or dead tomorrow. I’m 14 and this is deep.
Is it okay if we call this “Final solution”?
Not just Germans, but everywhere. Delta doesn’t joke around and plenty of people still think “ignored” is the fourth option. They’ll end up in any of the first three.
Good news. We can end the pandemic stuff now and move on.
So, more or less, he announced a deadline for Germany : after winter, all restrictions about Covid will be senseless, because all people would have been contaminated, weaker ones dead and life may continue for other ones.
Scum bag politician.
Sidenote: weekend brings snow in Germany. Winter is coming
Sounds like a nazi move
That sounds like a threat.
Sounds like he is basically announcing mandatory vaccination, which newsflash: has legal precedence and is actually very much legal as long as the government can prove it’s need.
After all the 2nd article of the constitution that anti-vaxxers love to cite
> (1) Everyone shall have the right to the free development of his personality, provided that he does not infringe the rights of others and does not violate the constitutional order or moral law.
> (2) Everyone shall have the right to life and physical integrity. The freedom of the person shall be inviolable. These rights may be interfered with only on the basis of a law.
Goes both ways: “physical integrity” also means the government has a DUTY to make sure there is no threat to health running wild in the population. So in that sense mandatory vaccination can be VERY much in tune with the 2nd article.
In general, epidemic laws are more or less a subset of martial law. Rights can be suspended as much in such a situation as they could be if e.g. a country was being invaded by a hostile force. Most constitutions have disasters such as a deadly epidemic as one of THE exceptions that allows the suspension of certain rights.
Finally, Germany is a society based on solidarity with our welfare system. That also means having to make personal sacrifices for your fellow citizen. One of these sacrifices means having to get vaccinated even if you don’t want to for the sake of neighbor. This is a *duty* of citizen as lined out by the solidarity societal model Germany follows.
If you can’t be arsed to even do this little of a sacrifice for your fellow citizen, then in my opinion you have no place in our society.
The German version of “Fuck, Marry, Kill”.
Based.
Bit too morbid for my liking. Surely theres a better way to phrase this ? Or is it just classic German bluntness. Maybe someone can enlighten me here.
Wait, I thought there wasn’t a cure for it yet, even the vaccine doesn’t cure you, you can still get it after you’ve already had it as well.
i hope so! open up quick so that end can come a lot faster.
You can be all 3 or a combination of them
☐ Needle
☐ Blade
Achtung! Pick your jab! Jetzt!!
​
^(/humor)
sure sounds german
Having the lockdown exit wave in the late autumn seems pretty stupid eh?
Sounds like a final solution.
And they say ze Germans have no sense of humour.
not enuf of them!
Good.
I tried explaining this to my Dad, unsuccessfully.
I was telling him, there are 3 ways you get through Covid, short of being miraculously lucky.
You either get the vaccine and hopefully avoid Covid or barely notice it, you just get Covid and gamble on your outcome (for him this was especially concerning, as he’s been smoking cigarettes longer than I’ve existed on this earth, doesn’t take care of himself, and didn’t take any precautions). Once you get Covid, you’ll either get better or die…and I’d prefer you avoid the latter option.
Sure enough, about a month ago, I get a call from his hospital. They’re calling to tell me he was brought in with a heart attack and they tested him for Covid and found that he tested positive.
Fortunately for him, he survived the heart attack and spent 10 days in the hospital without needing to go on anything more than oxygen, which was likely just as much for his smoking as it was Covid.
Now a few weeks after, he’s still hesitant to get vaccinated, but is pretty interested in getting a steroid shot, because he “heard from someone at church” that they did it and their long Covid symptoms cleared up.
Nevermind that these symptoms could well be because he’s not taking care of his blood sugar or even monitoring it…but, oh well. At this point I’d likely have more like convincing my dog to go sign up for a vaccine.
If he dies, he dies
Since most germans are already vaccinated, most germans are vaccinated, cured or dead right now.
Everybody seems to be amazed about how “german” this statement is (because he mentions that people die?), but as a german it strikes me how this is a statement of a politician, who is not willing to take a risk by making a prognosis, that has any chance of not being (or becoming) true.
Jens du Hampelmann!
Little did he know that vaccines don’t do anything in the ways of actually eradicating covid, and they’re only insuring the sick don’t end up in the ICU.
In fact there is no medication that actively kills covid cells, and covid will always be here, hiding in every human body like many other diseases such as the flu, just waiting for the body to become weak, so it can flare up.
Buuu some of you will die. No shit?
I mean technically he’s right since a majority is already vaccinated so…
Why be one when you can be all three? 🤔
I really think they should reconsider how that sounds
News flash: most Germans are already vaccinated, cured or dead.
Personally, what I really appreciate in Germany and even here on /r/Europe :
Many people tend to dislike this man – but never ever have I read a homophobic comment. That’s how it should be. No one should be interested in his private life, only in his political work.