Like any other rental law, this will me a faff. Why? Enforcement…
There are, in theory, laws that should guarantee a pretty good standard of life in this country. They’re simply ignored, as no one is there to actually enforce anything.
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If council tenants can’t even manage to get anything out of local authorities when their flats are growing black mould how the hell does anyone expect this to work in the wild west private sector?
Can this please be backdated to previous housing?
I’d like my three years of paying £95 per week for a uni house that substituted wallpaper for black mold.
Thing is, there are laws and powers in place to deal with most of the complaints that I am reading about. The issue is the lack of EH officers. The torids cut so much money from LAs that the staffing levels are 25% of what they were 12 years ago so enforcement can be a tad problematic if theres one person dealibg with an entire town
So who decides if the house is not kept in a good condition due to the landlord or the tennants trashing the place?
Not holding my breath for this to actually be enforced in any way
Should be, but will it happen.
And then you get to be served an eviction notice
Withholding rent is the only thing that will make anyone take action.
A simpler solution would be legal protections around withholding rent.
Although obviously it’ll never happen as us serfs should just accept our positions and be thankful for it.
I’m guessing this is why my landlord has just given everyone in my block of flats a 2 month eviction order.
Private rentals need to be run by councils and rent and maintenance set by them, Landlords will just kick out tenants or raise the rent to cover anything.
Seeing some of the states on London Rental Opportunity of the Week its clear we need minimum standards on rentals (sq ft, distance between aspace for a bed and a kitchentte or bathroom etc.. this list would have to be huge) and if a property fails to meet these minmums to set a maximum cap on weekly rental at something daft like £25 (inc. all utilities). So someone can rent out a room for some spare cash but cant convert a house into 6 pathetic lets where people are expected to live like hamsters and be charged £700 each.
I was a landlord with one property. I evicted my tenant using section 21 last month. The whole eviction process took over 6 months and I had to go to court twice. The tenant was a hoarder, abusive and racist to me and my family, they also damaged the flat extensively on purpose and blamed me. They made false allegations to the council multiple times about the property. So relieved I could evict them before the section 21 ban!
This sounds like a faff when we really need an “mot” style system for rentals. This country needs to start treating renting as a service your paying for rather than the weird mess we have.
>A Private Renters’ Ombudsman will be appointed to settle disputes between renters and landlords, and tenants will be able to seek repayment of rent if the standard of their homes is unacceptable.
Huge if true
I’ve brought so many issues up to my landlord, leaking water, leaking this, leaking shower. Next doors dogs tearing his fence down, boiler is on the fritz and the time doesn’t work. He’s not give a shit. I would do something about (ive tried to say the least) but fighting health issues and a demanding engineer job I just can’t be chasing someone to keep his own property in check.
I know it wouldn’t be the priority, but can non tenants (ie. Neighbours) report landlords for letting the exterior of their houses get into shitty condition?
Landlords ruin the look of a lot of streets. Its unreasonable to expect the tenants to do the gardening/painting on rented housing.
What people are missing here are that these sorts of things already exist.
They’re called RRO’s rent repayment orders. One such case is if you’ve lived in an unlicensed HMO
It goes to a first tier tribunal and are quite common. There are several organisations that do a no win no fee offer.
This is just looking to expand what can be used to grant ab RRO
I had a politically active mate who would get repairs done and deduct from rent all the time. The clauses are there in most contracts but rarely used. It helped that his housemates were a collection of lawyers, union sorts and politicals from across the spectrum. Landlord was too scared to try to evict them.
Going to assume the Daily Mail comments section is a sewer, full of people claiming ‘entitled’ tenants are the ones at fault and we should respect the landlords that worked hard and deserve to be rewarded for it.
There will be a shitload of people damaging their homes to get free rent.
This is surprisingly sensible and compassionate legislation coming from Michael Gove.
Do you honestly think the conservative party are going to pass this? As is?
If so you’re really going to want to buy this bridge I have for sale.
If they’re outlawing fixed term tenancy agreements, does that apply to student accomodation? Or AirBnB?
They’ll just end the lease and good luck finding anywhere else even the same for what you were lying previously. This country need a revolution where the wealth is redistributed.
Damn lucky! My landlord here in the states won’t get solar panels because “it’ll benefit you more than me”… like he’s living in the house.
Tories trying to win back popular support after the vote of no confidence
You tell me.
I rented a student house with 3 other people but haven’t lived there for that year. Still paid rent which I changed heating, electricity, internet ext (standard student rent).
I spent one night there in a year. The house was bad. I just finished Architecture at Uni and that house wouldn’t pass today’s standards. The insulation was non-existent, the living room at times felt damp when you breathe (more so in winter – closed windows and hearing – no ventilation).
And about a month ago they sent an email that we are reaching the energy limit and might pay up the difference.
So you mean to tell me that 3 people managed to use up the energy allowance for 4 people which was designed not to run out for a full house.
They totally just didn’t want to scrap you due to the rising bills (bear in mind the bills went up in April and the rent ends in June so 3 months out of 12).
They shut up about it when I kicked off in an angry email as they were informed that I don’t actually spend any time there despite paying and it made no sense for them to use it up (lived with them before, not horrible people at energy saving).
(If you are wondering. I rented it but didn’t leave it as I moved to my partners house instead, at the time of renting it (because it’s a student…) We were 3 months into the relationship meanwhile at the time of actually having access to the student house it was 10 months or so… Plus a pandemic.- and you couldn’t get rid of it because no one would take it)
Nothing makes me more productive with a warm feeling in my stomach than seeing mass legislative changes that restrict and punish landlords
The timing is interesting on this. I wouldn’t be surprised if we will see many smaller, older landlords sell up this year and this is partly to restrict the flow of housing for sale. House prices are high due to a manufactured shortage and the slightest imbalance will cause prices to drop.
they don’t keep up with shit now, it’s too much hassle chasing things, like we’ve lived here for 2 years and he’s only just installed fire alarms (we bought our own but he didn’t know that) and he’s got his mate to do the electric checks, the report is total bullshit but it’s not like i have the time to fucking sue him lol
What body or department would be enforcing this? And what’s their staffing and budget?
So glad we don’t rent any more, 1 bad tenant and it becomes a worthless venture. so many landlords are going to quit renting
I see properties around here that are in dire shape but rented out. The problem is most systems for reporting issues assume you’re the person living there.
Well that’s all good and everything – obviously they have the most to lose with a bad property but if you’re vulnerable are you going to speak up about your landlord letting you live in a bad place?
Is this for private landlords ??
Get innnnnnn
In Germany you’re entitled to withhold rent as a tenant if there are issues with the property – up to 100% with critical problems such as heating. That seems like it would be a better solution than this.
Due to Osbourne Cameron austerity Kensington borough lost ten building inspectors and 72 people died. Along with all the visible cuts like library and swimming pool closures, it is the loss of regulatory inspectors that has allowed people to be housed in property unfit for human habitation – in the 5th largest economy in the world. Small government Tory “red tape” cutters simply allow the greedy rentiers to take the piss.
Lmao the house we have had an interior door as the back door which lets ALL the cold in during winter, mould, slugs constantly getting in through the back door, rotting kitchen sides, broken windows, damp, gas bills through the roof because the heat just goes to shit due to the cold coming through, bathroom falling to shit, holes everywhere, ants swarming the house through a hole in the gas cabinet and depsite an inspection where they promised to sort it, guess what they’ve done? Fuck all expect raise the rent by £50
I’m close to going to environmental health at this point, I have a serious lung disease and it’s affected by this house, he’s got 6 weeks and then I’m done and reporting him because this house is disgusting
Nothing will change, landlords will keep getting away with this shit and they know it. I can’t even get a council house because despite being disabled and having a newborn in a damp and mould filled hell hole, we aren’t a priority. I can’t afford a deposit for private, or the extortionate rent rates so we’re stuck here, getting sick and no one gives a flying arse crack
The amount of propaganda going into tenancies right now makes me think there’s some fat property payout coming for landlords. That’s how cynical this administration has made me.
Lol the Daily Mail comments. Some are saying being a landlord isn’t worth it or that they’ll sell up….good! Less profitable it is to be a landlord the better, because even with the current levels of profit the UK’s housing situation isn’t adequate. I’ll trust myself to get repairs done in a timely fashion (days to weeks) before any landlord or letting agent (weeks to months), which is a problem because tenants get no compensation if they do repairs themselves.
I’m going to post this here, as it seems many readers need to be informed of the following :
TENANTS : IT’S YOUR JOB TO CLEAN THE PROPERTY
Ah yes, because we all know that the landlords that rent out sub-standard properties will be more than happy to pay back people’s rent(!)
Enforcement and real renter protection or GTFO.
Will they?
My mate has been a tenant in a property for 5 years. When he asked his landlady for a bit of redecoration she sent him an eviction notice
This is desperately needed but I question whether the goal will be achieved as there simply isn’t sufficient willpower in parliament.
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Now make it retroactive.
Like any other rental law, this will me a faff. Why? Enforcement…
There are, in theory, laws that should guarantee a pretty good standard of life in this country. They’re simply ignored, as no one is there to actually enforce anything.
[deleted]
If council tenants can’t even manage to get anything out of local authorities when their flats are growing black mould how the hell does anyone expect this to work in the wild west private sector?
Can this please be backdated to previous housing?
I’d like my three years of paying £95 per week for a uni house that substituted wallpaper for black mold.
Thing is, there are laws and powers in place to deal with most of the complaints that I am reading about. The issue is the lack of EH officers. The torids cut so much money from LAs that the staffing levels are 25% of what they were 12 years ago so enforcement can be a tad problematic if theres one person dealibg with an entire town
So who decides if the house is not kept in a good condition due to the landlord or the tennants trashing the place?
Not holding my breath for this to actually be enforced in any way
Should be, but will it happen.
And then you get to be served an eviction notice
Withholding rent is the only thing that will make anyone take action.
A simpler solution would be legal protections around withholding rent.
Although obviously it’ll never happen as us serfs should just accept our positions and be thankful for it.
I’m guessing this is why my landlord has just given everyone in my block of flats a 2 month eviction order.
Private rentals need to be run by councils and rent and maintenance set by them, Landlords will just kick out tenants or raise the rent to cover anything.
Seeing some of the states on London Rental Opportunity of the Week its clear we need minimum standards on rentals (sq ft, distance between aspace for a bed and a kitchentte or bathroom etc.. this list would have to be huge) and if a property fails to meet these minmums to set a maximum cap on weekly rental at something daft like £25 (inc. all utilities). So someone can rent out a room for some spare cash but cant convert a house into 6 pathetic lets where people are expected to live like hamsters and be charged £700 each.
I was a landlord with one property. I evicted my tenant using section 21 last month. The whole eviction process took over 6 months and I had to go to court twice. The tenant was a hoarder, abusive and racist to me and my family, they also damaged the flat extensively on purpose and blamed me. They made false allegations to the council multiple times about the property. So relieved I could evict them before the section 21 ban!
This sounds like a faff when we really need an “mot” style system for rentals. This country needs to start treating renting as a service your paying for rather than the weird mess we have.
>A Private Renters’ Ombudsman will be appointed to settle disputes between renters and landlords, and tenants will be able to seek repayment of rent if the standard of their homes is unacceptable.
Huge if true
I’ve brought so many issues up to my landlord, leaking water, leaking this, leaking shower. Next doors dogs tearing his fence down, boiler is on the fritz and the time doesn’t work. He’s not give a shit. I would do something about (ive tried to say the least) but fighting health issues and a demanding engineer job I just can’t be chasing someone to keep his own property in check.
I know it wouldn’t be the priority, but can non tenants (ie. Neighbours) report landlords for letting the exterior of their houses get into shitty condition?
Landlords ruin the look of a lot of streets. Its unreasonable to expect the tenants to do the gardening/painting on rented housing.
What people are missing here are that these sorts of things already exist.
They’re called RRO’s rent repayment orders. One such case is if you’ve lived in an unlicensed HMO
It goes to a first tier tribunal and are quite common. There are several organisations that do a no win no fee offer.
This is just looking to expand what can be used to grant ab RRO
I had a politically active mate who would get repairs done and deduct from rent all the time. The clauses are there in most contracts but rarely used. It helped that his housemates were a collection of lawyers, union sorts and politicals from across the spectrum. Landlord was too scared to try to evict them.
Going to assume the Daily Mail comments section is a sewer, full of people claiming ‘entitled’ tenants are the ones at fault and we should respect the landlords that worked hard and deserve to be rewarded for it.
There will be a shitload of people damaging their homes to get free rent.
This is surprisingly sensible and compassionate legislation coming from Michael Gove.
Do you honestly think the conservative party are going to pass this? As is?
If so you’re really going to want to buy this bridge I have for sale.
If they’re outlawing fixed term tenancy agreements, does that apply to student accomodation? Or AirBnB?
They’ll just end the lease and good luck finding anywhere else even the same for what you were lying previously. This country need a revolution where the wealth is redistributed.
Damn lucky! My landlord here in the states won’t get solar panels because “it’ll benefit you more than me”… like he’s living in the house.
Tories trying to win back popular support after the vote of no confidence
You tell me.
I rented a student house with 3 other people but haven’t lived there for that year. Still paid rent which I changed heating, electricity, internet ext (standard student rent).
I spent one night there in a year. The house was bad. I just finished Architecture at Uni and that house wouldn’t pass today’s standards. The insulation was non-existent, the living room at times felt damp when you breathe (more so in winter – closed windows and hearing – no ventilation).
And about a month ago they sent an email that we are reaching the energy limit and might pay up the difference.
So you mean to tell me that 3 people managed to use up the energy allowance for 4 people which was designed not to run out for a full house.
They totally just didn’t want to scrap you due to the rising bills (bear in mind the bills went up in April and the rent ends in June so 3 months out of 12).
They shut up about it when I kicked off in an angry email as they were informed that I don’t actually spend any time there despite paying and it made no sense for them to use it up (lived with them before, not horrible people at energy saving).
(If you are wondering. I rented it but didn’t leave it as I moved to my partners house instead, at the time of renting it (because it’s a student…) We were 3 months into the relationship meanwhile at the time of actually having access to the student house it was 10 months or so… Plus a pandemic.- and you couldn’t get rid of it because no one would take it)
Nothing makes me more productive with a warm feeling in my stomach than seeing mass legislative changes that restrict and punish landlords
The timing is interesting on this. I wouldn’t be surprised if we will see many smaller, older landlords sell up this year and this is partly to restrict the flow of housing for sale. House prices are high due to a manufactured shortage and the slightest imbalance will cause prices to drop.
they don’t keep up with shit now, it’s too much hassle chasing things, like we’ve lived here for 2 years and he’s only just installed fire alarms (we bought our own but he didn’t know that) and he’s got his mate to do the electric checks, the report is total bullshit but it’s not like i have the time to fucking sue him lol
What body or department would be enforcing this? And what’s their staffing and budget?
So glad we don’t rent any more, 1 bad tenant and it becomes a worthless venture. so many landlords are going to quit renting
I see properties around here that are in dire shape but rented out. The problem is most systems for reporting issues assume you’re the person living there.
Well that’s all good and everything – obviously they have the most to lose with a bad property but if you’re vulnerable are you going to speak up about your landlord letting you live in a bad place?
Is this for private landlords ??
Get innnnnnn
In Germany you’re entitled to withhold rent as a tenant if there are issues with the property – up to 100% with critical problems such as heating. That seems like it would be a better solution than this.
Due to Osbourne Cameron austerity Kensington borough lost ten building inspectors and 72 people died. Along with all the visible cuts like library and swimming pool closures, it is the loss of regulatory inspectors that has allowed people to be housed in property unfit for human habitation – in the 5th largest economy in the world. Small government Tory “red tape” cutters simply allow the greedy rentiers to take the piss.
Lmao the house we have had an interior door as the back door which lets ALL the cold in during winter, mould, slugs constantly getting in through the back door, rotting kitchen sides, broken windows, damp, gas bills through the roof because the heat just goes to shit due to the cold coming through, bathroom falling to shit, holes everywhere, ants swarming the house through a hole in the gas cabinet and depsite an inspection where they promised to sort it, guess what they’ve done? Fuck all expect raise the rent by £50
I’m close to going to environmental health at this point, I have a serious lung disease and it’s affected by this house, he’s got 6 weeks and then I’m done and reporting him because this house is disgusting
Nothing will change, landlords will keep getting away with this shit and they know it. I can’t even get a council house because despite being disabled and having a newborn in a damp and mould filled hell hole, we aren’t a priority. I can’t afford a deposit for private, or the extortionate rent rates so we’re stuck here, getting sick and no one gives a flying arse crack
The amount of propaganda going into tenancies right now makes me think there’s some fat property payout coming for landlords. That’s how cynical this administration has made me.
Lol the Daily Mail comments. Some are saying being a landlord isn’t worth it or that they’ll sell up….good! Less profitable it is to be a landlord the better, because even with the current levels of profit the UK’s housing situation isn’t adequate. I’ll trust myself to get repairs done in a timely fashion (days to weeks) before any landlord or letting agent (weeks to months), which is a problem because tenants get no compensation if they do repairs themselves.
I’m going to post this here, as it seems many readers need to be informed of the following :
TENANTS : IT’S YOUR JOB TO CLEAN THE PROPERTY
Ah yes, because we all know that the landlords that rent out sub-standard properties will be more than happy to pay back people’s rent(!)
Enforcement and real renter protection or GTFO.
Will they?
My mate has been a tenant in a property for 5 years. When he asked his landlady for a bit of redecoration she sent him an eviction notice
This is desperately needed but I question whether the goal will be achieved as there simply isn’t sufficient willpower in parliament.