Drug laws help no one other than people wishing to profit on them being illegal and police/state who enjoy the power it gives them.
Also today’s top story: Water is wet.
Legalise weed, tax it, pay for mental health services and support for addicts. Even I can can think this through.
Drug laws arent meant to help anyone, they are meant to criminalise those who use them regardless of if they are actually harmful or not.
They don’t help recreational users either, or people medicating for health reasons,
Or anyone actually, including the tax payer
Definitely not, people chose to take drugs. The Government need to crack down harder on drug users and actually jail them.
Yes let’s legalise everything I’m sure nothing could go wrong.
Any of these middle class suburb dwellers lived anywhere near junkies.
Fuck me this sub.
Of course not, victimless crimes help no one and just punish the people they are targeted at.
How the fuck do people believe that sending people to prison is ‘for their own good’?!
Wow the war on drugs continues to fail and actually hurt people, water is wet, the sky is in fact blue
Cue standard Tory response:
‘Legalisation is sending the wrong message ‘
I think a great way approach this problem is to ask “what was it we tried to stop?” when we made drugs illegal.
* If we don’t want people altering their conciousness, then we need to ban alcohol, cigarettes and caffeine. Maybe meditiation, music, movies, rollercoasters etc too.
* If we’re worried about individual harm from drugs (eg overdose, addiction, liver damage) then again, alcohol needs banned. And all the studies show that criminalising just makes it more hamful to health.
* If it’s the moral harm / societological breakdown fear of anarchy in the streets, then once again why is booze legal, and why has the war on drugs been so ineffective?
I’ve dabbled in most of the common drugs, alcohol is the only one that scares me. It’s the only one where you’re a different person, where you lose mental and physical control, where harm, aggression, conflict and accidents are so common.
Things like mushrooms and LSD score extremely low on danger no matter what way you cut it – overdose risk, harm to health, harm to society. Cannabis and ecstacy have mild risks, but orders of magnitude lower than alcohol. Cocaine and opiates seem pretty dangerous in the long run. But the US fucking legalised opiates and doled them out on a massive scale, which is another example of how “legal” does not equal “good”.
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And studies from around the world (including from Scotland’s word-leading programme to successfully tackle the heroin problem) shows that criminalisation basically does fuck all, the problem is people are driven to escape shit lives.
[Rats stuck in miserable cages will self-administer heroin til they die. Rats in nice cages with toys and other rats won’t partake in drugs.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rat_Park)
The constant hand-wringing over the legal status of drugs will be completely ineffective – we need to give people purpose and the means to better themselves. Anyone trapped in a dead-end life will seek out drugs. Or if we actually won the war on drugs, they’d just go for alcohol (or prescription opiates in the US).
If we create a fair and just society where anyone can climb the social ladder, problematic substance abuse will be minimal. If we have a society where people are stuck in shit lives, substances will be abused regarless of which ones happen to be illegal.
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So anyone against legalising drugs needs to ask themselves what they’re trying to achieve. Because criminalising them doesn’t help individuals or society. Drugs won the war on drugs.
Lets face it, Drug laws only serve to line the pockets of those who sell drugs illegally.
No one else benefits apart from those designated criminals by the state.
Remove the criminality and bring the whole trade out into the open where it can be scrutinised, the stigma of addiction removed and adicts helped.
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Drug laws help no one other than people wishing to profit on them being illegal and police/state who enjoy the power it gives them.
Also today’s top story: Water is wet.
Legalise weed, tax it, pay for mental health services and support for addicts. Even I can can think this through.
Drug laws arent meant to help anyone, they are meant to criminalise those who use them regardless of if they are actually harmful or not.
They don’t help recreational users either, or people medicating for health reasons,
Or anyone actually, including the tax payer
Definitely not, people chose to take drugs. The Government need to crack down harder on drug users and actually jail them.
Yes let’s legalise everything I’m sure nothing could go wrong.
Any of these middle class suburb dwellers lived anywhere near junkies.
Fuck me this sub.
Of course not, victimless crimes help no one and just punish the people they are targeted at.
How the fuck do people believe that sending people to prison is ‘for their own good’?!
Wow the war on drugs continues to fail and actually hurt people, water is wet, the sky is in fact blue
Cue standard Tory response:
‘Legalisation is sending the wrong message ‘
I think a great way approach this problem is to ask “what was it we tried to stop?” when we made drugs illegal.
* If we don’t want people altering their conciousness, then we need to ban alcohol, cigarettes and caffeine. Maybe meditiation, music, movies, rollercoasters etc too.
* If we’re worried about individual harm from drugs (eg overdose, addiction, liver damage) then again, alcohol needs banned. And all the studies show that criminalising just makes it more hamful to health.
* If it’s the moral harm / societological breakdown fear of anarchy in the streets, then once again why is booze legal, and why has the war on drugs been so ineffective?
I’ve dabbled in most of the common drugs, alcohol is the only one that scares me. It’s the only one where you’re a different person, where you lose mental and physical control, where harm, aggression, conflict and accidents are so common.
Things like mushrooms and LSD score extremely low on danger no matter what way you cut it – overdose risk, harm to health, harm to society. Cannabis and ecstacy have mild risks, but orders of magnitude lower than alcohol. Cocaine and opiates seem pretty dangerous in the long run. But the US fucking legalised opiates and doled them out on a massive scale, which is another example of how “legal” does not equal “good”.
​
And studies from around the world (including from Scotland’s word-leading programme to successfully tackle the heroin problem) shows that criminalisation basically does fuck all, the problem is people are driven to escape shit lives.
[Rats stuck in miserable cages will self-administer heroin til they die. Rats in nice cages with toys and other rats won’t partake in drugs.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rat_Park)
The constant hand-wringing over the legal status of drugs will be completely ineffective – we need to give people purpose and the means to better themselves. Anyone trapped in a dead-end life will seek out drugs. Or if we actually won the war on drugs, they’d just go for alcohol (or prescription opiates in the US).
If we create a fair and just society where anyone can climb the social ladder, problematic substance abuse will be minimal. If we have a society where people are stuck in shit lives, substances will be abused regarless of which ones happen to be illegal.
​
So anyone against legalising drugs needs to ask themselves what they’re trying to achieve. Because criminalising them doesn’t help individuals or society. Drugs won the war on drugs.
Lets face it, Drug laws only serve to line the pockets of those who sell drugs illegally.
No one else benefits apart from those designated criminals by the state.
Remove the criminality and bring the whole trade out into the open where it can be scrutinised, the stigma of addiction removed and adicts helped.