Last year my Wife’s 99 year old Gran waited 8 hours for an ambulance after falling down the stairs and breaking her hip.
8 hours lay in a heap at the bottom of her stairs, right next to the front door in December when it was freezing.
Can we please put up some tents outside A&E to free up ambulances that are otherwise queuing.
‘Tents outside A&Es are a danger to patients’ health and dignity’
Yeah because lying on the floor with a brain bleed for hours is safe and dignified. That poor man.
I hate weaponising tragedies but unfortunately when it comes to our public services and our government, all of those in opposition have no choice.
The system has been in managed decline for a decade. It’s a fucking disaster exacerbated by vanity projects like Brexit, COVID and PPE scandals and huge amounts of corruptions the likes of which British politics has never seen.
Every opposition party needs to be slamming the Tories over the fucking heads regarding this catastrophe they’ve created within our NHS.
Unfortunately I think this is all part of the Tory’s plan to say the NHS is not working as intended so we all have to go the USA way and pay for insurance so they can then get back handers from the insurance company’s.
I really feel for the family. Specially the son who wanted to drive cross country to help but his Dad told him no its ok, the ambulance will be here soon.
“Can you please tell them to hurry up or I shall be dead”
The problem is that the ambulances are dealing with a lot of people in exactly the same position. It’s nothing to do with the paramedics being ‘slow’ and needing to hurry up.
Fewer paramedics and ambulance services being merged across counties is not helping either. It takes longer to reach patients but you have fewer ambulances making longer trips and the remaining staff are doing overtime to plug gaps. It’s a house of cards that is close to collapse at this rate; that is before they even get into the ED and they have to experience the chaos of understaffed and overburdened EDs.
Did we really need a picture that appears somewhat similar to Rolf Harris remembering his favourite “can ya guess what it is yet?”
Just a bit of advice, if you call an ambulance for yourself or a family member do not bother waiting it’s quicker if you have the means to just take yourself/ get someone to take you to hospital. I know other people are quoting 8 hours, I know on certain days it’s a 16 hour delay. The ambulance service are swamped in calls a lot of which are mental health and not actual medical emergencies.
There desperately needs to be a separate team which deals with all mental health calls.
Bear with me here and read the whole post.
Sounds like the ambulance services are prioritising correctly. I had a family member fall critically ill three times last year – each time the first responder was there in minutes and the ambulance shortly after.
And also, my gran fell and waited six hours for the ambulance.
In both cases, they were prioritised correctly, the person that was in imminent danger got immediate care, the person who could wait had to do so.
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The reason I say this is that our current pattern of flying into uproar will get us nowhere. In any big project if you cut funding, you have to cut scope or schedule. So with limited funding, we can either stop treating some conditions (not really feasible) or make people queue for limited resources.
So this stuff isn’t a bug, it isn’t a mistake or a fuck-up. It’s the natural, deliberate mode of operation for any under-resourced organisation. From waiting for a plumber to queuing for a sold-out gig – it’s incorrect to conclude that they’ve fucked up. The reality is they’re at capacity.
We need to stop looking for someone to blame and just fucking fund the NHS. Quid the outrage, quit the uproar, quit the politics, cancel an aircraft carrier or something and write a fucking cheque.
Simple fix,
How do we get ambulance times lower!? Employ more ambulance staff and fund more ambulances
How do we attract ambulance staff?
Pay them more than they could earn as a delivery driver.
Like if I, an average interligence person, can figure it out, its amazing how difficult it is for this to be put into action.
This is just so sad
This country is a disgrace 🙁 the government are truly running us into the ground. Can we really wait until the next general election?
Boomers voted to send thousands of European medical sector workers home.
These are the consequences, fools.
The transcript is enraging. “send an ambulance I’m dying” “we’re under pressure too!” This isn’t a money issue – GRH received a share between it and another hospital of over a hundred million pounds intended for a&e services and what did they do with it? “carry out digital transformations and facilitate green initiatives.” Muppets making choices that help their careers when they leave to go to the private sector.
You have seen nothing yet. Wait till nurses and paramedics strike later this year.
Sadly, it seems both the Conservative and Labour party don’t give a fuck about the NHS (mainly because their MPs are middle-class/upper-class poshos who always go private for their healthcare needs), so they are just letting it go to rot while only paying mild lip-service to it whenever it suits their goals.
And considering they are the only two parties likely to ever be in power at any given time, I fear greatly for the future of our amazing NHS.
It won’t be long until we end up with as shit of a healthcare service as that in the USA, where unless you have the correct expensive insurance policy taken out in your name, you’re going to be seriously screwed over big time should you ever need medical care!
Meanwhile look at how much the government wastes on handing out dodgy contracts to their mates
The way this country is being run is a total sham
Sounds about right, I used to live next door to an elderly ex army guy, he lived alone and was having semi regular visits to hospital. One evening I hear the faint voice of him shouting for help through the wall, he had a fall and couldn’t move and was freezing as it was the dead of winter. I called an ambulance and waited, trying to figure out a way to get through his PVC door. I stood outside for 45 minutes before the ambulance arrived. Ended up ringing twice because I thought they must have forgot about the call or something.
It was a pretty horrible experience standing outside in the cold after finishing a shift hearing this poor guy yell for help and all I could say was shit like “Help is coming” when I was starting to doubt it myself. I can only imagine how the poor fella felt, pretty sure he passed within a fortnight because I didn’t see him again and his (I presume) son moved in within a few months.
There’s nothing worse than being in severe pain and having people tell you their doing their best and to be patient. Like, how dare you not inconvenience us with your problems? Can’t you just die quietly? We’re busy.
If you blame the NHS and not the tories for this, clearly planned decimation of the NHS, then you’re either thick as shit or don’t care about paying shit loads if money to see a doctor.
Before we begin to even imagine this is unavoidable and a result of the pandemic, here’s an article about ambulance wait times in Ireland getting worse. They are talking about differences of about 10 minutes – e.g. cat 1 responses increasing from 18 minutes to 26 in rural areas. Imagine that.
I am sure Boris will get that 350 Million smackeroonees as promised (in writing on the side of a red bus) anytime now.
Please don’t blame the NHS Ambulances, just blame Boris & Co. It’s all down to them how the NHS & Ambulance service is run, it’s there fault alone. If the Ambulance & NHS had there way, I’m sure they would be with you in less than Ten minutes.
But in 2018 when I was running a pub in Runcorn, my area manager arrived at the pub with an ambulance crew to stage a ‘drugs intervention’ about my supposed LSD use.
I experienced this last year. My elderly neighbour had fallen downstairs, soiled himself and then sat there for twelve hours shouting for help with a broken hip.
I got home from work and heard him, did my best to make him comfortable and got some help from other neighbours who had experience in elderly care.
Called the ambulance and they were just not interested. We waited for about an hour. Eventually the old guy managed to tell us that he thought he might have had a heart attack on the stairs. The ambulance came then thankfully.
Shocking service. The guy died a few days later.
Why weren’t the police called? They or the fire service are a second line of defence.
The nhs is mainly struggling because lots of people abuse it using it for minor ailments and things they can’t sort out themselves.
There’s loads of fat people, people who take drugs and abuse there bodies in other ways which puts unnecessary strain in there bodies and don’t exercise.
If people looked after themselves they wouldn’t have as many issues.
The people who abuse the NHS are the same ones who will miss out if it disappears.
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Last year my Wife’s 99 year old Gran waited 8 hours for an ambulance after falling down the stairs and breaking her hip.
8 hours lay in a heap at the bottom of her stairs, right next to the front door in December when it was freezing.
Can we please put up some tents outside A&E to free up ambulances that are otherwise queuing.
‘Tents outside A&Es are a danger to patients’ health and dignity’
Yeah because lying on the floor with a brain bleed for hours is safe and dignified. That poor man.
I hate weaponising tragedies but unfortunately when it comes to our public services and our government, all of those in opposition have no choice.
The system has been in managed decline for a decade. It’s a fucking disaster exacerbated by vanity projects like Brexit, COVID and PPE scandals and huge amounts of corruptions the likes of which British politics has never seen.
Every opposition party needs to be slamming the Tories over the fucking heads regarding this catastrophe they’ve created within our NHS.
Unfortunately I think this is all part of the Tory’s plan to say the NHS is not working as intended so we all have to go the USA way and pay for insurance so they can then get back handers from the insurance company’s.
I really feel for the family. Specially the son who wanted to drive cross country to help but his Dad told him no its ok, the ambulance will be here soon.
“Can you please tell them to hurry up or I shall be dead”
The problem is that the ambulances are dealing with a lot of people in exactly the same position. It’s nothing to do with the paramedics being ‘slow’ and needing to hurry up.
Fewer paramedics and ambulance services being merged across counties is not helping either. It takes longer to reach patients but you have fewer ambulances making longer trips and the remaining staff are doing overtime to plug gaps. It’s a house of cards that is close to collapse at this rate; that is before they even get into the ED and they have to experience the chaos of understaffed and overburdened EDs.
Did we really need a picture that appears somewhat similar to Rolf Harris remembering his favourite “can ya guess what it is yet?”
Just a bit of advice, if you call an ambulance for yourself or a family member do not bother waiting it’s quicker if you have the means to just take yourself/ get someone to take you to hospital. I know other people are quoting 8 hours, I know on certain days it’s a 16 hour delay. The ambulance service are swamped in calls a lot of which are mental health and not actual medical emergencies.
There desperately needs to be a separate team which deals with all mental health calls.
Bear with me here and read the whole post.
Sounds like the ambulance services are prioritising correctly. I had a family member fall critically ill three times last year – each time the first responder was there in minutes and the ambulance shortly after.
And also, my gran fell and waited six hours for the ambulance.
In both cases, they were prioritised correctly, the person that was in imminent danger got immediate care, the person who could wait had to do so.
​
The reason I say this is that our current pattern of flying into uproar will get us nowhere. In any big project if you cut funding, you have to cut scope or schedule. So with limited funding, we can either stop treating some conditions (not really feasible) or make people queue for limited resources.
So this stuff isn’t a bug, it isn’t a mistake or a fuck-up. It’s the natural, deliberate mode of operation for any under-resourced organisation. From waiting for a plumber to queuing for a sold-out gig – it’s incorrect to conclude that they’ve fucked up. The reality is they’re at capacity.
We need to stop looking for someone to blame and just fucking fund the NHS. Quid the outrage, quit the uproar, quit the politics, cancel an aircraft carrier or something and write a fucking cheque.
Simple fix,
How do we get ambulance times lower!? Employ more ambulance staff and fund more ambulances
How do we attract ambulance staff?
Pay them more than they could earn as a delivery driver.
Like if I, an average interligence person, can figure it out, its amazing how difficult it is for this to be put into action.
This is just so sad
This country is a disgrace 🙁 the government are truly running us into the ground. Can we really wait until the next general election?
Boomers voted to send thousands of European medical sector workers home.
These are the consequences, fools.
The transcript is enraging. “send an ambulance I’m dying” “we’re under pressure too!” This isn’t a money issue – GRH received a share between it and another hospital of over a hundred million pounds intended for a&e services and what did they do with it? “carry out digital transformations and facilitate green initiatives.” Muppets making choices that help their careers when they leave to go to the private sector.
You have seen nothing yet. Wait till nurses and paramedics strike later this year.
Sadly, it seems both the Conservative and Labour party don’t give a fuck about the NHS (mainly because their MPs are middle-class/upper-class poshos who always go private for their healthcare needs), so they are just letting it go to rot while only paying mild lip-service to it whenever it suits their goals.
And considering they are the only two parties likely to ever be in power at any given time, I fear greatly for the future of our amazing NHS.
It won’t be long until we end up with as shit of a healthcare service as that in the USA, where unless you have the correct expensive insurance policy taken out in your name, you’re going to be seriously screwed over big time should you ever need medical care!
Meanwhile look at how much the government wastes on handing out dodgy contracts to their mates
The way this country is being run is a total sham
Sounds about right, I used to live next door to an elderly ex army guy, he lived alone and was having semi regular visits to hospital. One evening I hear the faint voice of him shouting for help through the wall, he had a fall and couldn’t move and was freezing as it was the dead of winter. I called an ambulance and waited, trying to figure out a way to get through his PVC door. I stood outside for 45 minutes before the ambulance arrived. Ended up ringing twice because I thought they must have forgot about the call or something.
It was a pretty horrible experience standing outside in the cold after finishing a shift hearing this poor guy yell for help and all I could say was shit like “Help is coming” when I was starting to doubt it myself. I can only imagine how the poor fella felt, pretty sure he passed within a fortnight because I didn’t see him again and his (I presume) son moved in within a few months.
There’s nothing worse than being in severe pain and having people tell you their doing their best and to be patient. Like, how dare you not inconvenience us with your problems? Can’t you just die quietly? We’re busy.
If you blame the NHS and not the tories for this, clearly planned decimation of the NHS, then you’re either thick as shit or don’t care about paying shit loads if money to see a doctor.
Before we begin to even imagine this is unavoidable and a result of the pandemic, here’s an article about ambulance wait times in Ireland getting worse. They are talking about differences of about 10 minutes – e.g. cat 1 responses increasing from 18 minutes to 26 in rural areas. Imagine that.
I am sure Boris will get that 350 Million smackeroonees as promised (in writing on the side of a red bus) anytime now.
Please don’t blame the NHS Ambulances, just blame Boris & Co. It’s all down to them how the NHS & Ambulance service is run, it’s there fault alone. If the Ambulance & NHS had there way, I’m sure they would be with you in less than Ten minutes.
But in 2018 when I was running a pub in Runcorn, my area manager arrived at the pub with an ambulance crew to stage a ‘drugs intervention’ about my supposed LSD use.
I experienced this last year. My elderly neighbour had fallen downstairs, soiled himself and then sat there for twelve hours shouting for help with a broken hip.
I got home from work and heard him, did my best to make him comfortable and got some help from other neighbours who had experience in elderly care.
Called the ambulance and they were just not interested. We waited for about an hour. Eventually the old guy managed to tell us that he thought he might have had a heart attack on the stairs. The ambulance came then thankfully.
Shocking service. The guy died a few days later.
Why weren’t the police called? They or the fire service are a second line of defence.
The nhs is mainly struggling because lots of people abuse it using it for minor ailments and things they can’t sort out themselves.
There’s loads of fat people, people who take drugs and abuse there bodies in other ways which puts unnecessary strain in there bodies and don’t exercise.
If people looked after themselves they wouldn’t have as many issues.
The people who abuse the NHS are the same ones who will miss out if it disappears.