China has now overtaken France in CO2 emissions per capita,even taking into consideration imports balance(CO2 embedded in imported or exported goods)

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  2. **just in case many Redditors are too lazy to read the title,imports and exports are counted**

    so with the CO2 emissions of all goods imported from China accounted for,average Chinese person still produces more CO2 through his consumption than the average French person

  7. Taking CO2 into account when exporting/importing is rather silly. China produces products for the world of its own free will. Germany, Japan also export a lot. At least 50% of the blame should be on the consumer and 50% on the company/state.

  9. France is not a fair comparison because they had/have the intelligence to rely a lot on nuclear electricity production.

  14. morons keep using the per capita when the raw amount of co2 produced by country is the actual relevant metric to use if you want politcal changes.

  15. Maybe having three apartments per person as a consequence of the sex imbalance isn’t that sustainable. The CCP has created a monster, and it’s going to implode sooner or later…

  16. Chinese emissions are almost as high as EU emissions even though Chinese GDP is still far below EU levels. Chinese emissions will increase substantially before they can catch up with Western living standards. The same goes for other emerging and developing economies. I really don’t think there is much hope. Theoretically it’s still possible to keep climate change to manageable levels, but considering international tensions, I have no idea how that can work as nations keep on pouring enormous resources into the weapons industry to prepare for conflict.

  18. I’m staring to think we should not care about EU emissions at this point. We need to develop and construct technology to help us survive the upcoming climate crisis.

    The best effort EU can do now is a drop in the ocean that will have little impact on how severe the upcoming crisis is going to be, whereas we still can affect how well we’re going to be prepared for it.

  20. It’s a bit unfair to compare developed nations that got rich off fossil fuels to nations that are still developing.

  23. I think that is not matter because most NGOs cannot work in China, block roads? Climb on the coal train? That would be a felony and no media in court!

  24. We can only hope that thanks to technology advaneces China(and Africa or Indian subcontinent) will need less historical emission to reach European level of wealth.

  25. Compare it to the USA though

    I remember in an argument I had with my grandparents regarding China, they tried to say that China had more CO2 emissions over the USA and how bad it was, and I looked up the per capita statistics and it was like two or three times higher than China, which would put the USA around 14 or 21, way off the chart

  26. The pandemic starting 2019 accelerated this process, it seems. In practice, PRC rely more on the disposables i.e. mask, delivery packings. And in addition, coal plants still supply the most power. There are so many left to improve.

  27. Real reasons may be that China’s GDP is underestimated.

    Considering the quantity per capita purchase of vehicles, home appliances and food, … Etc. “Hard” items, in fact, China is not lower than the EU.

    The American and European GDP higher than China, mainly in finance, service and other “Soft” items, for example, take 10 times money in extract a tooth.

    EU higher GDP than China is based on higher prices of service, and carbon emissions of those “Soft” items are relatively lower than “Hard” items too.

  32. Western propaganda is strong in this sup…
    y‘all forget that china is leading in renewable energy, building new nuclear power plants and has the biggest reforestation program (the green wall) with over 60 billion planted trees in the desert of north china making it the biggest man made forest in the world.
    All this while constantly increasing the standard of living from its citizens.

  35. Of course the French have built in an advantage by supporting nuclear power generation in a systematic way for the last 4 decades. Now getting the benefit

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