When the European court of human rights has to step in to block this governments inhumane policies, you know something is very very wrong.
Good. Unfortunately we’ll now likely get to see Johnson, Patel, etc use this to try to take a torch to human rights legislation, knowing they’ll have the backing of a good chunk of the electorate who won’t look beyond this case for justification.
Kept us distracted, perfect shit. 130 people on the plane, down to 80, to 30, to just 12, to 8, to 7, to now nothing. Over the span of weeks?
If it wasn’t so tragic it would be hilarious. The Thick of It wouldn’t be commissioned now. It would have to be so ridiculous to exceed what is actually happening…
Quality. I’ve noticed the messaging has shifted towards suggesting lawyers fighting on behalf of the refugees are supporting the people smugglers. They talk about it being the only way to stop the trade. Yet there appears to be no effort to find and prosecute the smugglers. Just focus on the victims of their trade.
Good in that this morally repugnant policy has no place in our country and bad because this scenario is exactly what the Tories want in terms of their ongoing war against our human rights, the rule of law and our former friends and allies in Europe.
Did they ever plan on sending people there, or has this been an elaborate ruse to build public support for leaving the ECHR?
Mail is going to lap this one up. Their headline tomorrow will be a serious shit show.
This is just one of those policies where I look at it and think, there has to be a better way. I understand we don’t have the capacity to house our own people right now let alone others but the idea that we’re going to ship them off to Rwanda feels particularly evil just for the sake of being evil. I don’t have better solutions but I have no doubt they exist.
The environmentally sensitive expulsion of 8 people on a jet plane. Makes sense…said no one ever!
We’re never going to control any level of immigration, are we? It will be hundreds of thousands from now until the entire human race lives in Britain or Benidorm.
It seems like many people fail to understand that the numbers of people coming across the channel every day are unsustainable and are already inflicting negative consequences for our country.
The whole point of the Rwanda plan is to act as a massive deterrent to the many thousands of illegals contemplating making the crossing too. If they think there is a realistic chance they will be sent to Rwanda, perhaps they will stay put in one of the many safe European countries they have passed through and claim asylum there instead of jumping on a dinghy believing there are richer pickings to be found in the UK.
The issue at hand here is people are using asylum as a backdoor for illegal economic migration. Uncontrolled mass migration is not in our national interests. By all means, highly educated in demand professionals such as doctors should be fast-tracked as they will benefit the country, but illegal economic migration must be tackled hard and fast. The UK is already suffering from overcrowding and strained public services. A population surge, especially from the third world is the last thing we need right now.
Almost as if its a horrific, inhumane idea in the first place.
This whole thing just feels like I’m tripping on acid.
>Earlier this evening, it was confirmed that **two individuals** due to be sent to the east African country had had their exit from the UK postponed following last-ditch efforts by lawyers.
How much fuel is being wasted to fly **two** people to Rwanda before the plane returns to the UK empty? Priti Patel, that is not very green of you is it?!
What a ridiculous waste of time and money this whole thing has been.
What’s Boris been stealing while we’ve had our eyes on this?
Any takers that this was the main goal all along? Give the UK gov grounds to pull out of the ECHR.
Patel is a fucking monster and I hate what this country has become.
Watch how the fuckwits will now demands we withdraw on the ECHR.
This is all part of the Govts plan to tear up the European human rights act. They’re going to blame it and the European courts for not being able to “take control of our borders” and then try to withdraw from it..
Hopefully it won’t go through. It’s such a shitshow
Great, people who shouldn’t be here get to stay. How wonderful
But how could this be? Liz Truss explicitly promised that they would go ahead just earlier today!
Oh yeah, Liz Truss is a fucking moron……
Entire hotel in my quiet town is just housing refugee men seems they’re sending a lot more here than to Rwanda.
There were 7 people on board, then one was removed due to a successful appeal. Jesus Christ, they could just say they weren’t enough people to make sense. Paying for a jumbo jet to send 6 people 4,000 miles is nuts. And who knows how much the aborted flight cost
What is the alternative though? We need a deterrent for the blatant non refugees that are being smuggled.
There are real refugees without question, but currently the majority of people that are being illegally trafficked are grown adult men who are coming here for economic reasons and have been filmed deliberately throwing their phones and passports into the water to ensure their true nationality cannot be determined so that they can’t be sent back home.
A waste of resources and of time. This whole thing. I hate how utterly useless and incompetent the government is. Boris, Priti, Rishi and the lot probably share MAYBE two braincells between them.
How the government treats refugees is how they’d treat the rest of us if they thought they could get away with it
I’ll get downvotes to hell for this (generally because anything with a whiff of pro-government policy is disliked in here) but it’s probably important to mention a handful of points here:
They aren’t being dispatched to Rwanda and locked in a cell until they die. It’s an offshore processing centre and it’s actually quite a nice facility. The Rwandans have made quite an effort and see this as an acceptance into the wider world community. This is quite insulting for them though I doubt anyone in here cares.
We currently are on track to accept a city the size of Newcastle into the UK this year. Anyone who feels we should rubber stamp every single person who shows up and asks to stay is an idiot. There must be a way to process them.
I’m not going to get into the absurd argument that people in the UK hate immigration it’s a fallacy. Nor that we aren’t compassionate. Anyone saying so is lying to you. Ask anyone from Hong Kong (all 170,000 of them!) or Ukraine. Another 90,000. All welcomed. Legitimately. No resistance. Because they are simply willing to work within the system.
If the system locally isn’t fit for purpose (nobody can argue it is) then making a facility offshore is actually not a bad thing. The Danish are already doing it, but it doesn’t suit the bedwetters in here to admit it. Or are the Danes also suddenly little Englanders? As are the Spanish.
If you have a right to be here you will be welcome. Ask me I’m an immigrant. But I had to do it legally.
Anyone advocating for the way it’s being done now is openly advocating on behalf of criminals.
This project will happen and it should. Us British have a keen nose for doing what’s right but it relies on those doing so to obey the rules. Rocking up in unorganised mobs across the channel is not and will not ever be acceptable.
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Thank goodness. Hopefully it won’t go through.
Please let this piece of theatre end.
When the European court of human rights has to step in to block this governments inhumane policies, you know something is very very wrong.
Good. Unfortunately we’ll now likely get to see Johnson, Patel, etc use this to try to take a torch to human rights legislation, knowing they’ll have the backing of a good chunk of the electorate who won’t look beyond this case for justification.
Kept us distracted, perfect shit. 130 people on the plane, down to 80, to 30, to just 12, to 8, to 7, to now nothing. Over the span of weeks?
If it wasn’t so tragic it would be hilarious. The Thick of It wouldn’t be commissioned now. It would have to be so ridiculous to exceed what is actually happening…
Quality. I’ve noticed the messaging has shifted towards suggesting lawyers fighting on behalf of the refugees are supporting the people smugglers. They talk about it being the only way to stop the trade. Yet there appears to be no effort to find and prosecute the smugglers. Just focus on the victims of their trade.
Good in that this morally repugnant policy has no place in our country and bad because this scenario is exactly what the Tories want in terms of their ongoing war against our human rights, the rule of law and our former friends and allies in Europe.
Did they ever plan on sending people there, or has this been an elaborate ruse to build public support for leaving the ECHR?
Mail is going to lap this one up. Their headline tomorrow will be a serious shit show.
This is just one of those policies where I look at it and think, there has to be a better way. I understand we don’t have the capacity to house our own people right now let alone others but the idea that we’re going to ship them off to Rwanda feels particularly evil just for the sake of being evil. I don’t have better solutions but I have no doubt they exist.
The environmentally sensitive expulsion of 8 people on a jet plane. Makes sense…said no one ever!
We’re never going to control any level of immigration, are we? It will be hundreds of thousands from now until the entire human race lives in Britain or Benidorm.
It seems like many people fail to understand that the numbers of people coming across the channel every day are unsustainable and are already inflicting negative consequences for our country.
The whole point of the Rwanda plan is to act as a massive deterrent to the many thousands of illegals contemplating making the crossing too. If they think there is a realistic chance they will be sent to Rwanda, perhaps they will stay put in one of the many safe European countries they have passed through and claim asylum there instead of jumping on a dinghy believing there are richer pickings to be found in the UK.
The issue at hand here is people are using asylum as a backdoor for illegal economic migration. Uncontrolled mass migration is not in our national interests. By all means, highly educated in demand professionals such as doctors should be fast-tracked as they will benefit the country, but illegal economic migration must be tackled hard and fast. The UK is already suffering from overcrowding and strained public services. A population surge, especially from the third world is the last thing we need right now.
Almost as if its a horrific, inhumane idea in the first place.
This whole thing just feels like I’m tripping on acid.
>Earlier this evening, it was confirmed that **two individuals** due to be sent to the east African country had had their exit from the UK postponed following last-ditch efforts by lawyers.
How much fuel is being wasted to fly **two** people to Rwanda before the plane returns to the UK empty? Priti Patel, that is not very green of you is it?!
What a ridiculous waste of time and money this whole thing has been.
What’s Boris been stealing while we’ve had our eyes on this?
Any takers that this was the main goal all along? Give the UK gov grounds to pull out of the ECHR.
Patel is a fucking monster and I hate what this country has become.
Watch how the fuckwits will now demands we withdraw on the ECHR.
This is all part of the Govts plan to tear up the European human rights act. They’re going to blame it and the European courts for not being able to “take control of our borders” and then try to withdraw from it..
Hopefully it won’t go through. It’s such a shitshow
Great, people who shouldn’t be here get to stay. How wonderful
But how could this be? Liz Truss explicitly promised that they would go ahead just earlier today!
Oh yeah, Liz Truss is a fucking moron……
Entire hotel in my quiet town is just housing refugee men seems they’re sending a lot more here than to Rwanda.
There were 7 people on board, then one was removed due to a successful appeal. Jesus Christ, they could just say they weren’t enough people to make sense. Paying for a jumbo jet to send 6 people 4,000 miles is nuts. And who knows how much the aborted flight cost
What is the alternative though? We need a deterrent for the blatant non refugees that are being smuggled.
There are real refugees without question, but currently the majority of people that are being illegally trafficked are grown adult men who are coming here for economic reasons and have been filmed deliberately throwing their phones and passports into the water to ensure their true nationality cannot be determined so that they can’t be sent back home.
A waste of resources and of time. This whole thing. I hate how utterly useless and incompetent the government is. Boris, Priti, Rishi and the lot probably share MAYBE two braincells between them.
How the government treats refugees is how they’d treat the rest of us if they thought they could get away with it
I’ll get downvotes to hell for this (generally because anything with a whiff of pro-government policy is disliked in here) but it’s probably important to mention a handful of points here:
They aren’t being dispatched to Rwanda and locked in a cell until they die. It’s an offshore processing centre and it’s actually quite a nice facility. The Rwandans have made quite an effort and see this as an acceptance into the wider world community. This is quite insulting for them though I doubt anyone in here cares.
We currently are on track to accept a city the size of Newcastle into the UK this year. Anyone who feels we should rubber stamp every single person who shows up and asks to stay is an idiot. There must be a way to process them.
I’m not going to get into the absurd argument that people in the UK hate immigration it’s a fallacy. Nor that we aren’t compassionate. Anyone saying so is lying to you. Ask anyone from Hong Kong (all 170,000 of them!) or Ukraine. Another 90,000. All welcomed. Legitimately. No resistance. Because they are simply willing to work within the system.
If the system locally isn’t fit for purpose (nobody can argue it is) then making a facility offshore is actually not a bad thing. The Danish are already doing it, but it doesn’t suit the bedwetters in here to admit it. Or are the Danes also suddenly little Englanders? As are the Spanish.
If you have a right to be here you will be welcome. Ask me I’m an immigrant. But I had to do it legally.
Anyone advocating for the way it’s being done now is openly advocating on behalf of criminals.
This project will happen and it should. Us British have a keen nose for doing what’s right but it relies on those doing so to obey the rules. Rocking up in unorganised mobs across the channel is not and will not ever be acceptable.