Stagnated wages since 2008. Ever increasing housing prices. Ridiculously high unemployment. Why are live births declining? It’s a mystery.
It is curious to see how COVID affected 2020 last quarter birth rates.
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Heh,turns out all those decades of money printing and public deficit did indeed have an effect on the economy and spaniards have been stuck with the same wages for years while everything has been getting more and more expensive
Seems like indeed inflation hits back and hits hard,especially on the youth,the ones supposed to have the babies,but if It isnt already hard for them to get a job,we better not Talk about It being well paid so that lets them move out right?
Our generation is doomed,and the trend is getting worse unless get rid of the current economic policies,give the economic power back to spaniards,not the state,we want to be able to make a living,not get the state to give us one,spanish fiscal effort is amongst the highest in Europe
Tiene gracia como encerrarnos 2 años con nuestra pareja no ha funcionado.
Cambio en las preferencias, el aspecto económico sólo se usa como excusa. Antes se era más pobre y se tenían más hijos, ahora la gente con menos recursos tiene también más hijos.
La razón es que las generaciones que están en el momento de tener hijos prefieren no hacerlo frente a tenerlos y rebajar su nivel de vida.
Puedes reducir tus gastos para tenerlos (vivir en un sitio más barato, comer habitualmente en casa, no hacer grandes viajes, no pagar suscripciones innecesarias…) pero es más sencillo no hacer esos sacrificios como hicieron generaciones pasadas.
Todos queremos darles lo mejor a nuestros hijos pero veo mejor darles algo estándar con 30 años que algo mejor a los 45 años, pero eso es ya decisión personal de cada uno.
me parece genial
Number of kids per woman is INVERSELY correlated to wealth, female empowerment and LGBT rights
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The pandemic had a temporary effect, but the long term decline is due to positive things, and it is happening all over the world
India just got under 1.98, mexico dell to 1.68, even france is at 1.7 which is helped by inmigrant populations
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This is not “kids being selfish” or “economy is shit” but rather “people have more freedom and are choosing what makes them happier”
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Otherwise, the wealthy in Spain would have many kids, THEY DONT, because it is not a problem of money, for most people (otherwise, why did people in the 50s had so many?)
I have two sons, one was born in 2020 and the other one this year, just one month ago. My wife and I have both jobs and she is 32 and me 34. I think that the problem is that people don’t want kids because they preffer to get a good job first. But we think the opposite first have kids an then you probably get a better job (there are studies about this)
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Stagnated wages since 2008. Ever increasing housing prices. Ridiculously high unemployment. Why are live births declining? It’s a mystery.
It is curious to see how COVID affected 2020 last quarter birth rates.
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Heh,turns out all those decades of money printing and public deficit did indeed have an effect on the economy and spaniards have been stuck with the same wages for years while everything has been getting more and more expensive
Seems like indeed inflation hits back and hits hard,especially on the youth,the ones supposed to have the babies,but if It isnt already hard for them to get a job,we better not Talk about It being well paid so that lets them move out right?
Our generation is doomed,and the trend is getting worse unless get rid of the current economic policies,give the economic power back to spaniards,not the state,we want to be able to make a living,not get the state to give us one,spanish fiscal effort is amongst the highest in Europe
Tiene gracia como encerrarnos 2 años con nuestra pareja no ha funcionado.
Cambio en las preferencias, el aspecto económico sólo se usa como excusa. Antes se era más pobre y se tenían más hijos, ahora la gente con menos recursos tiene también más hijos.
La razón es que las generaciones que están en el momento de tener hijos prefieren no hacerlo frente a tenerlos y rebajar su nivel de vida.
Puedes reducir tus gastos para tenerlos (vivir en un sitio más barato, comer habitualmente en casa, no hacer grandes viajes, no pagar suscripciones innecesarias…) pero es más sencillo no hacer esos sacrificios como hicieron generaciones pasadas.
Todos queremos darles lo mejor a nuestros hijos pero veo mejor darles algo estándar con 30 años que algo mejor a los 45 años, pero eso es ya decisión personal de cada uno.
me parece genial
Number of kids per woman is INVERSELY correlated to wealth, female empowerment and LGBT rights
​
The pandemic had a temporary effect, but the long term decline is due to positive things, and it is happening all over the world
India just got under 1.98, mexico dell to 1.68, even france is at 1.7 which is helped by inmigrant populations
​
This is not “kids being selfish” or “economy is shit” but rather “people have more freedom and are choosing what makes them happier”
​
Otherwise, the wealthy in Spain would have many kids, THEY DONT, because it is not a problem of money, for most people (otherwise, why did people in the 50s had so many?)
I have two sons, one was born in 2020 and the other one this year, just one month ago. My wife and I have both jobs and she is 32 and me 34. I think that the problem is that people don’t want kids because they preffer to get a good job first. But we think the opposite first have kids an then you probably get a better job (there are studies about this)