Cars priced under 32k aye right so that how many electric cars? More like re purpose money to slash fuel duty to try hide the cost of living crisis they helped make
“sparks” – lol.
Makes more sense to use that money on building infrastructure.
Everyone wants them now. If I was dumb enough to buy a new car, it would be electric. They’ve got really good.
So how does this work if you have a car on order from months ago? Was told it was effectivly a year when we agreed a price and put down a deposit.
>Now, here comes the stick:
Lets be honest, £2 a litre is a pretty big stick in itself, I don’t suppose any carrot is needed right now or in the foreseeable future.
>Motoring and car industry groups have criticised
“Industry wants subsidy to continue”
I’ll take £1,500 towards an ebike thanks.
Electric cars have got a huge amount of momentum now, they are going to sell no matter what. Switching money to infrastructure (assuming they actually do that) IS a much better idea. presume £1500 per car sold would go a long way to creating a extra charger per car?
Still EVs are way over priced. You have less components than an ICE so there’s less general cost. I assume that 1 full engine and gearbox costs more to make than the electric equivalent. I know the cost comes from the batteries but most of the manufacturers would make a bigger profit if they made the EVs cheaper.
Example the Mini Electric new is £31k where as the petrol is £22K. It doesn’t cost £9k more, they could easily sell them at £25k and more people would probably buy one.
I think this is a good thing.
Grants like this do little more than push the price up of the good being bought. It puts money from the exchequer into the hands of business. The idea of it reducing the cost of purchase is an illusion, the cost will just come down without subsidy.
It would be better spent in my opinion on infrastructure.
There is no point setting up incentives. They need to set a fixed 5 to 10 year period to show they were serious about any kind of grant otherwise NEXT!
Best thing for it.
I’m quite lucky I have a Tesco and lidl with chargers nearby. I finish work around 4/5am so I can stick it on charge for a. Few hrs when no one is there.
The issue comes charging at home. Aside from a slow plug in charger I have no means to install a charger due to living on a terraced St.
This is the biggest issue facing ev cars.
I went to Birmingham on the weekend and aside from certain areas (read posher) there was a lack of chargers for a huge area of residential properties. Drove to the out skirts of the city centre to get a 45 mins boost
Stupid fucking thing should never have existed in the first place.
Tories really have a hate boner for sustainability. If we’d been properly investing in a green economy for the past 30 years or so the COL crisis would be nowhere near as bad, and we would have far better national energy security.
I get that it was an incentive to get more EVs into circulation, but I’m not sure how I feel about people in a position to purchase a brand new 32k car having that purchase subsidized with taxpayer money. You already pay 0% tax on EVs (though I bet that will change one day), that should be enough incentive. It’d be interesting to see how effective it was.
Realistically for the majority to choose EVs over fuel cars/hybrids charging NEEDS to be accessible everywhere. It’s a HUGE barrier when people are weighing up options. I’m literally talking in long-term every single parking space in every single car park, and a reasonable solution needs to be found for those that park on the street too. The money from these grants should have instead been going towards starting that process back then instead of now.
Slightly unrelated but I also think it should be mandated that every single new build today should be being built with at least one electric charger and the infrastructure to easily swap out and upgrade them in the future. The owners may not want or need that now but one day they will be needed by someone in that property, and it will be a hell of a lot cheaper to just put that infrastructure in now rather than having to spend money ripping up even more roads to put them in in say 30 years time.
Yes I’m really going to miss that 1.5k off my 40 grand motor. I think once it gets to that sort of money you’re into ‘fuck it, just chuck on the 19″ alloys’ territory anyway.
Force people towards EVs with sky high fuel then take away incentives when they have no choice
We need a cut in fuel duty AND VAT.
“Scrapping of Electric car Grants sparks backlash”
It was shocking!
Have had ev for two years. I had lease so I could try it out. The national infrastructure has hardly changed in that time. Holidays in Scotland, Cornwall, Norfolk, Peak District not realistic. Only rapid chargers are realistic and so few even on motorways ffs. Im not renewing the lease. Shell and BP chargers few and disappointing to shame just two. Slow, faulty, and a score of apps. Forget it.
E-Cars are becoming slowly normalized in availability…….somehow and prices are coming down. With the impending ban on new ICE cars I can see why they are doing this.
…………just couldn’t have come at a worse time.
Good. Another pointless middle class handout
tl;dr
Clean Cities Campaign: *””Build electric cars competitively or fade away. Public money should instead be put towards a scrappage scheme to help people on low incomes switch out of polluting vehicles, whether going electric or car free.””*
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Cars priced under 32k aye right so that how many electric cars? More like re purpose money to slash fuel duty to try hide the cost of living crisis they helped make
“sparks” – lol.
Makes more sense to use that money on building infrastructure.
Everyone wants them now. If I was dumb enough to buy a new car, it would be electric. They’ve got really good.
So how does this work if you have a car on order from months ago? Was told it was effectivly a year when we agreed a price and put down a deposit.
>Now, here comes the stick:
Lets be honest, £2 a litre is a pretty big stick in itself, I don’t suppose any carrot is needed right now or in the foreseeable future.
>Motoring and car industry groups have criticised
“Industry wants subsidy to continue”
I’ll take £1,500 towards an ebike thanks.
Electric cars have got a huge amount of momentum now, they are going to sell no matter what. Switching money to infrastructure (assuming they actually do that) IS a much better idea. presume £1500 per car sold would go a long way to creating a extra charger per car?
Still EVs are way over priced. You have less components than an ICE so there’s less general cost. I assume that 1 full engine and gearbox costs more to make than the electric equivalent. I know the cost comes from the batteries but most of the manufacturers would make a bigger profit if they made the EVs cheaper.
Example the Mini Electric new is £31k where as the petrol is £22K. It doesn’t cost £9k more, they could easily sell them at £25k and more people would probably buy one.
I think this is a good thing.
Grants like this do little more than push the price up of the good being bought. It puts money from the exchequer into the hands of business. The idea of it reducing the cost of purchase is an illusion, the cost will just come down without subsidy.
It would be better spent in my opinion on infrastructure.
There is no point setting up incentives. They need to set a fixed 5 to 10 year period to show they were serious about any kind of grant otherwise NEXT!
Best thing for it.
I’m quite lucky I have a Tesco and lidl with chargers nearby. I finish work around 4/5am so I can stick it on charge for a. Few hrs when no one is there.
The issue comes charging at home. Aside from a slow plug in charger I have no means to install a charger due to living on a terraced St.
This is the biggest issue facing ev cars.
I went to Birmingham on the weekend and aside from certain areas (read posher) there was a lack of chargers for a huge area of residential properties. Drove to the out skirts of the city centre to get a 45 mins boost
Stupid fucking thing should never have existed in the first place.
Tories really have a hate boner for sustainability. If we’d been properly investing in a green economy for the past 30 years or so the COL crisis would be nowhere near as bad, and we would have far better national energy security.
I get that it was an incentive to get more EVs into circulation, but I’m not sure how I feel about people in a position to purchase a brand new 32k car having that purchase subsidized with taxpayer money. You already pay 0% tax on EVs (though I bet that will change one day), that should be enough incentive. It’d be interesting to see how effective it was.
Realistically for the majority to choose EVs over fuel cars/hybrids charging NEEDS to be accessible everywhere. It’s a HUGE barrier when people are weighing up options. I’m literally talking in long-term every single parking space in every single car park, and a reasonable solution needs to be found for those that park on the street too. The money from these grants should have instead been going towards starting that process back then instead of now.
Slightly unrelated but I also think it should be mandated that every single new build today should be being built with at least one electric charger and the infrastructure to easily swap out and upgrade them in the future. The owners may not want or need that now but one day they will be needed by someone in that property, and it will be a hell of a lot cheaper to just put that infrastructure in now rather than having to spend money ripping up even more roads to put them in in say 30 years time.
Yes I’m really going to miss that 1.5k off my 40 grand motor. I think once it gets to that sort of money you’re into ‘fuck it, just chuck on the 19″ alloys’ territory anyway.
Force people towards EVs with sky high fuel then take away incentives when they have no choice
We need a cut in fuel duty AND VAT.
“Scrapping of Electric car Grants sparks backlash”
It was shocking!
Have had ev for two years. I had lease so I could try it out. The national infrastructure has hardly changed in that time. Holidays in Scotland, Cornwall, Norfolk, Peak District not realistic. Only rapid chargers are realistic and so few even on motorways ffs. Im not renewing the lease. Shell and BP chargers few and disappointing to shame just two. Slow, faulty, and a score of apps. Forget it.
E-Cars are becoming slowly normalized in availability…….somehow and prices are coming down. With the impending ban on new ICE cars I can see why they are doing this.
…………just couldn’t have come at a worse time.
Good. Another pointless middle class handout
tl;dr
Clean Cities Campaign: *””Build electric cars competitively or fade away. Public money should instead be put towards a scrappage scheme to help people on low incomes switch out of polluting vehicles, whether going electric or car free.””*