As much as I love Bernie, it’s hard to achieve this in the US given tremendous lack of trust towards the government by the governed. There’s something fundamentally broken about America that no amount of money will fix its welfare system.
My “90 Day fiance the other way” is sure taking his time with my blue topaz engagement ring 💍😿
To not worry about healthcare is such peace of mind.
As an American that just started treatment for cancer, I’m already 10k in debt, 3 weeks in. Yes. I have health insurance. It’s a fucking outrage. I will survive, but I’ll be financially ruined.
its closer to 15 dollars an hour
Lies! College isn’t free! It costs about… 1 shift of burger flipping at McDonalds per year.
I’m trying so hard to even get an interview for a fiancée visa right now… that part of the process is turning out to be such a shit show. VFS is a joke, but also my only option. So I have to wait here in the US in limbo waiting up to a year in purgatory possibly instead of being with the woman I love. I’d just go there and apply there but I wouldn’t have income. It’s becoming quite the nightmare, but I know a future with her there is worth it and will be a dream come true. I still feel lucky to even have gotten this far, but if anyone knows of a way around this and a way to make money while there I’m all ears🙋🏽♂️
Americans believing that not having health care tied to work is the radical idea. Really its that having your work situation dictate what health care you get is insanity. I remember the first time I heard about that I was 100% sure they were joking. As in I actually laughed at the joke, because of the absurdity.
Norway has incredible per capita wealth from oil (2% of world consumption for a population just over 5 million). While they have a great social safety net, I’m not sure that it’s really a good comparison for most other countries.
What’s the original source of this?
You forget that Norway is not the melting pot the US is and resources are finite. Also Norwegian societies are one of the most evolved ones on the planet. Why? Because its made of Norwegians. Change that and everything falls apart.
They want what’s best, or what they think should be best, they try and play, but it turns out as always. It’s been a long time since they’ve made laws that really improve our lives. Everything is just to cover a hole, a temporary patch and wait what will happen next.
In the UK you don’t pay anything for medical treatment. In Scotland you don’t pay for university either.
What will happen to those poor healtinsurance companies if the US suddenly found out that healtcare is a human right and not something you should subscribe to??
I mean, i work at a pizza shop in norway and i dont get paid 20$/hr, its a bit lower than that..
Proud of being Norwegian, I gladly pay my taxes. Glad to live here, have kids here, work here. Some times I just sit and ponder about it.
Norway is awesome.
I am from norway
Technically it’s not a paid vacation (25/28 days, i have 30). It’s sorta deducted from your salary the previous year and you receive this saved vacation bank instead of your ordinary salary when you take your vacation days. However, everyone does have to take their vacation.
I was just in Norway and got busted for speeding 78 km in a 60 km zone (missed the sign and cars with limiters were an unknown to me :). 400 US fine. So… one year of health care or a speeding ticket. You choose. Loved Norway!
It’s only free if you’re not paying taxes.
Just returned to the states after 10 years in Norway and SO “F’ING” PISSED at the state of our so called healthcare.
What a disaster.
Americans are well aware of this. Tbh most would be shocked to find out someone would have to pay anything more than $0
Is norway accepting refugees from America yet? Its rough out here man…. i just wanna be able to pay my mortgage without crying…..
What they’re saying isn’t completely correct, though – health care coverage is not for being a Norwegian citizen, it’s for being a legal resident in Norway.
Fully paid parental leave is also not completely correct, in that the government only covers it up to 6G which is just above the average pay in Norway. Many employers will cover difference, some won’t[*].
28 days of vacations a year sounds strange. The legal minimum is 21 days, the most common is 25 days. Plus 1 week more if you’re above 60. Also, to be very technical – all vacation in Norway is unpaid. This is handled via something called [“holiday pay”](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holiday_pay)(“feriepenger” in Norwegian) – your employer is required to withhold some percentage of your salary and disburse it in time for your vacation next year, while at the time deducting the vacation days from your salary then.
[*] If it’s a large business, it’s just a statistic. If it’s a small business, the difference could make the business lose money that year.
To all who pay taxes, thanks for helping me live a relatively symptom free life. I sometimes wonder how many people we all pass each day that have their lives improved because we pay taxes.
Shame on America for passing on this man twice for Trump and Biden.
I just want to mention it’s normal to pay about 40% tax on income in Norway.
Is this sparta?
Crazy how the american public looks at Sanders as a radical/extreme, nothing he is saying is radical or extreme, well, to the american life perhaps. What a shame they screwed him for a chance as President
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But for real tho, why are you guys just electing senior citizens? Obama has been like the young guns ever since JFK, pretty crazy
Salaries for skilled jobs are much higher in the US. And the cost of living is much lower. In Norway if you work as an engineer for example, you will be paid an average wage, struggle to afford to buy a house in most towns and cities and spend a disproportionate amount of your salary on a strictly limited variety of groceries and overpriced services. Healthcare is free and if you are critically Ill is of good quality. However, for regular illnesses doctors will be dismissive, not prescribe medication and if you are referred to a specialist the wait can be months. Many companies offer insurance for a growing number of private clinics to combat this. In summary, Norway is a great place to be poor or have a severe illness. However, it doesn’t really reward hard work or entrepreneurship, the exact opposite of the US so it’s not really fair to compare the two countries.
Looks like bernie needs that financial support
The problem in America isn’t healthcare, it’s health *insurance*. And while I applaud Norway for what seems like a really great system, there’s only 5.5 million people there. America is closer to 400 million. America can’t simply do what Norway does (I wish it could).
Things need to change, and I believe they will, but it’s going to have to be a lot more than just several hundred dollars in taxes per year.
I don’t see why a hybrid system couldn’t work. People like me, who have really good insurance, don’t need to bog down a national system that others need more than me. And people that are not in the fortunate situation I’m in should be expected to pay into the same pool of money that I am.
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As much as I love Bernie, it’s hard to achieve this in the US given tremendous lack of trust towards the government by the governed. There’s something fundamentally broken about America that no amount of money will fix its welfare system.
My “90 Day fiance the other way” is sure taking his time with my blue topaz engagement ring 💍😿
To not worry about healthcare is such peace of mind.
As an American that just started treatment for cancer, I’m already 10k in debt, 3 weeks in. Yes. I have health insurance. It’s a fucking outrage. I will survive, but I’ll be financially ruined.
its closer to 15 dollars an hour
Lies! College isn’t free! It costs about… 1 shift of burger flipping at McDonalds per year.
I’m trying so hard to even get an interview for a fiancée visa right now… that part of the process is turning out to be such a shit show. VFS is a joke, but also my only option. So I have to wait here in the US in limbo waiting up to a year in purgatory possibly instead of being with the woman I love. I’d just go there and apply there but I wouldn’t have income. It’s becoming quite the nightmare, but I know a future with her there is worth it and will be a dream come true. I still feel lucky to even have gotten this far, but if anyone knows of a way around this and a way to make money while there I’m all ears🙋🏽♂️
Americans believing that not having health care tied to work is the radical idea. Really its that having your work situation dictate what health care you get is insanity. I remember the first time I heard about that I was 100% sure they were joking. As in I actually laughed at the joke, because of the absurdity.
Norway has incredible per capita wealth from oil (2% of world consumption for a population just over 5 million). While they have a great social safety net, I’m not sure that it’s really a good comparison for most other countries.
What’s the original source of this?
You forget that Norway is not the melting pot the US is and resources are finite. Also Norwegian societies are one of the most evolved ones on the planet. Why? Because its made of Norwegians. Change that and everything falls apart.
They want what’s best, or what they think should be best, they try and play, but it turns out as always. It’s been a long time since they’ve made laws that really improve our lives. Everything is just to cover a hole, a temporary patch and wait what will happen next.
In the UK you don’t pay anything for medical treatment. In Scotland you don’t pay for university either.
What will happen to those poor healtinsurance companies if the US suddenly found out that healtcare is a human right and not something you should subscribe to??
I mean, i work at a pizza shop in norway and i dont get paid 20$/hr, its a bit lower than that..
Proud of being Norwegian, I gladly pay my taxes. Glad to live here, have kids here, work here. Some times I just sit and ponder about it.
Norway is awesome.
I am from norway
Technically it’s not a paid vacation (25/28 days, i have 30). It’s sorta deducted from your salary the previous year and you receive this saved vacation bank instead of your ordinary salary when you take your vacation days. However, everyone does have to take their vacation.
I was just in Norway and got busted for speeding 78 km in a 60 km zone (missed the sign and cars with limiters were an unknown to me :). 400 US fine. So… one year of health care or a speeding ticket. You choose. Loved Norway!
It’s only free if you’re not paying taxes.
Just returned to the states after 10 years in Norway and SO “F’ING” PISSED at the state of our so called healthcare.
What a disaster.
Americans are well aware of this. Tbh most would be shocked to find out someone would have to pay anything more than $0
Is norway accepting refugees from America yet? Its rough out here man…. i just wanna be able to pay my mortgage without crying…..
What they’re saying isn’t completely correct, though – health care coverage is not for being a Norwegian citizen, it’s for being a legal resident in Norway.
Fully paid parental leave is also not completely correct, in that the government only covers it up to 6G which is just above the average pay in Norway. Many employers will cover difference, some won’t[*].
28 days of vacations a year sounds strange. The legal minimum is 21 days, the most common is 25 days. Plus 1 week more if you’re above 60. Also, to be very technical – all vacation in Norway is unpaid. This is handled via something called [“holiday pay”](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holiday_pay)(“feriepenger” in Norwegian) – your employer is required to withhold some percentage of your salary and disburse it in time for your vacation next year, while at the time deducting the vacation days from your salary then.
[*] If it’s a large business, it’s just a statistic. If it’s a small business, the difference could make the business lose money that year.
To all who pay taxes, thanks for helping me live a relatively symptom free life. I sometimes wonder how many people we all pass each day that have their lives improved because we pay taxes.
Shame on America for passing on this man twice for Trump and Biden.
I just want to mention it’s normal to pay about 40% tax on income in Norway.
Is this sparta?
Crazy how the american public looks at Sanders as a radical/extreme, nothing he is saying is radical or extreme, well, to the american life perhaps. What a shame they screwed him for a chance as President
​
But for real tho, why are you guys just electing senior citizens? Obama has been like the young guns ever since JFK, pretty crazy
Salaries for skilled jobs are much higher in the US. And the cost of living is much lower. In Norway if you work as an engineer for example, you will be paid an average wage, struggle to afford to buy a house in most towns and cities and spend a disproportionate amount of your salary on a strictly limited variety of groceries and overpriced services. Healthcare is free and if you are critically Ill is of good quality. However, for regular illnesses doctors will be dismissive, not prescribe medication and if you are referred to a specialist the wait can be months. Many companies offer insurance for a growing number of private clinics to combat this. In summary, Norway is a great place to be poor or have a severe illness. However, it doesn’t really reward hard work or entrepreneurship, the exact opposite of the US so it’s not really fair to compare the two countries.
Looks like bernie needs that financial support
The problem in America isn’t healthcare, it’s health *insurance*. And while I applaud Norway for what seems like a really great system, there’s only 5.5 million people there. America is closer to 400 million. America can’t simply do what Norway does (I wish it could).
Things need to change, and I believe they will, but it’s going to have to be a lot more than just several hundred dollars in taxes per year.
I don’t see why a hybrid system couldn’t work. People like me, who have really good insurance, don’t need to bog down a national system that others need more than me. And people that are not in the fortunate situation I’m in should be expected to pay into the same pool of money that I am.