Brexit was a crime. Illegal funding & dirty money fuelled the disinformation campaign to get it over the line, and once it was & the horrors came to light, democracy was attacked, Parliament was prorogued & corruption took over British politics.
I don’t like this ‘waking up to the truth’ narrative. They knew the truth all along.
An act of self harm to Heseltine’s 1,200 acre subsidy payment maybe.
And the more corporates are having to pay higher wages instead of importing cheap labour. Cry me a river
BoJo and his clowns are the ones causing harm, using NI as a bargaining chip is despicable.
They knew what the truth was when they were championing it, perhaps they just did not realise how bad it could be and that even the rich were going to be affected by it. It might have seemed like a good idea when the idea of a hard Brexit, let alone a no-deal Brexit, were inconsiderable, even to Farage. It might have seemed like a good idea when Remain seemed certain to win, which even Farage admitted on the night of the vote. The fact is that Brexit stood to benefit a small handful of the rich and powerful, although even they could not predict Cameron stepping down and then May and Johnson being the PMs to guide us through the process. It has blown up in their face and now they are having to admit, through gritted teeth, that there are no benefits to it, even for them.
Self Harm implies we hurt ourselves, when the truth is we were deliberately wounded.
The only unexpected and unwanted side effect (to them) is a loss to their reputation and hence money. Newspapers will die and the young will reverse the process. Inevitable change as the old die off
Self confession time – I voted out and now regret my decision.
I was one of those people that didn’t realise what was really going on.
At the time I was still serving in the army and was surrounded by quite a few ukip-ers and got drawn in to the side of not wanting EU bureaucrats black mailing and ruling over us.
I never cared about the immigration policy so therefore didn’t pay much attention to it.
And to be fair I never cared about a lot of it but got caught up in a lot of it.
It wasn’t till I was out and in civvy Street and having kids and educating myself about the real world not just my small secular side of things and how much we had been lied to and brainwashed I realised what a mistake I’d made but of course by then it was too late.
I now spend my time fighting and supporting what I believe to be the right causes and apologising for my part in the problem.
I feel that while mistakes were made in terms of the vote and how it affected us if people can’t be forgiven and taught where they got wrong and changes their way of thinking then any hope for change is, well, hopeless.
Great, Britain
>Even the Murdoch press is now waking up to the truth: Brexit was an act of self-harm
They’re not waking up, they’re changing tack. They want rid of Boris, they want a “real” conservative in office that doesn’t bend to public pressure, and doesn’t hand out money to the plebs in “crisis benefits”.
Nope. Guess again. Self-actualisation.
r/badunitedkingdom on suicide watch
…says the guardian.
We had a referendum in the mid 70’s on whether to continue in the EU so can we have a referendum to review the decision to leave. Interestingly, Ted Heath was so moved when we joined the EU he went home on his own to listen to music all evening.
If you’re press, and you weren’t smart enough to figure out that brexit was bad for England, perhaps you’re not smart enough to be in journalism?
Brexit is bad is as easy as Trump lost. Jeez
I voted leave.
To me, the key takeaway from this article, is that there is no prospect of meaningful progress in the UK without Leveson 2 reform of newspaper ownership – is it really radical to ask that Newspaper owners should be British born, pay UK taxes?
Murdoch press hasn’t woken up, they are now allowed to report it, big difference
Bloody Brexshit ate my hamster 😂 🤡🤡🤡
Michael Heseltine writes for the the Guardian?!? That feels … weird.
Time for bre-enter?
The only thing pro brexit “solved” is legal immigrants. Because now there are several tests and checks needed, and 3.5-5k £ in taxes just to be _allowed_ to work. You never stopped the illegal immigrants coming in. And then you fucked imports and exports along the way. Gj
Financed by Putin? Like Trump in the USA?
They wanted and campaigned for Brexit through party political agenda we always here Moggy quoting Daily Mail like it’s a Biblical source.
I think one of the biggest societal issues as a nation is to admit ‘we don’t know’ or were wrong. Most of the electorate don’t understand or are not interested in economics or politics, but everyone was an expert on Brexit. The remain campaign was a disaster, as apposed to the leave campaign, it was succinct and targeted and with the help of Murdoch and his mates they got it done. It’s now unfolding as an abject disaster and leavers are struggling with the fact that they were duped, most still hanging on to their three word slogans.
It just sounds like a bunch of bitter remainers.
One man’s truth is another man’s lie!
And most of us knew this would happen. For the ones that did, it’s like being hit by a car when you have right of way. We’re in hospital with a broken leg knowing we were in the right
The Murdoch press and other right wing papers will never admit Brexit is a disaster. They will say that Brexit failed by being badly implemented, betrayal by Remainers, Johnson botched it or any other excuse.
I do think they will try and say Brexit wasn’t hard enough and demand that Britain break from Europe. I fear they will argue the UK should leave NATO and align with just the USA, especially if the Republicans get in after the 2024 elections.
The brexiters I knew only voted because of immigration first, and a distant second was this vague notion of Brussels being a puppet master. I actually think they’ll be happy how it’s going, but shocked that there are economic consequences for hat they voted for.
Why it’s as if Murdoch chews people up and spits them out!
They didn’t wake up to it. They actively encouraged it, and then dragged out the conflict as long as they could before it became a dog they needed to put down. They’ll just find another cash cow to milk.
The wealthy were never going to be affected by brexit or no brexit. They saw it as a gamble to make even more by dropping EU regs and took a punt on brexit. The wealthy that were affected or could see things getting worse simply moved their money off shore or their company into an EU member State.
Reese Mogg moved his millions to Ireland. Dyson went to Singapore. Us ordinary serfs and plebs didn’t have a chance. Brexit has been bad for the whole population, less a few “non Dom’s” like Sunak’s wife.
We have to guard against vested influence and bad actors. We have failed on this occasion and our enemies have made fools of us.
I didn’t vote for Brexit but feel like it’s not going to be as disastrous as people make out in the long term. I’ve got some hope.
Unfortunately it’s been going to shit in the short term. Maybe I’m just telling myself that there’s something to hope for to make it feel easier to cope that we’ll come out ok.
I suppose the only enjoyable thing is the Brexit voters didn’t understand that it’s going to be a struggle and by the time it might get cleared up, the Tories will most likely not be in power and will be remembered for this shitty period.
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Did they not always know?
Brexit was a crime. Illegal funding & dirty money fuelled the disinformation campaign to get it over the line, and once it was & the horrors came to light, democracy was attacked, Parliament was prorogued & corruption took over British politics.
I don’t like this ‘waking up to the truth’ narrative. They knew the truth all along.
An act of self harm to Heseltine’s 1,200 acre subsidy payment maybe.
And the more corporates are having to pay higher wages instead of importing cheap labour. Cry me a river
BoJo and his clowns are the ones causing harm, using NI as a bargaining chip is despicable.
They knew what the truth was when they were championing it, perhaps they just did not realise how bad it could be and that even the rich were going to be affected by it. It might have seemed like a good idea when the idea of a hard Brexit, let alone a no-deal Brexit, were inconsiderable, even to Farage. It might have seemed like a good idea when Remain seemed certain to win, which even Farage admitted on the night of the vote. The fact is that Brexit stood to benefit a small handful of the rich and powerful, although even they could not predict Cameron stepping down and then May and Johnson being the PMs to guide us through the process. It has blown up in their face and now they are having to admit, through gritted teeth, that there are no benefits to it, even for them.
Self Harm implies we hurt ourselves, when the truth is we were deliberately wounded.
The only unexpected and unwanted side effect (to them) is a loss to their reputation and hence money. Newspapers will die and the young will reverse the process. Inevitable change as the old die off
Only two Brexiteer names stand out there which be The Times’s [Iain Martin](https://www.thetimes.co.uk/profile/iain-martin) and The Telegraph’s [Jeremy Warner](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/authors/j/ja-je/jeremy-warner/).
[Armitage](https://www.thetimes.co.uk/profile/jim-armitage), [Nixon](https://muckrack.com/simon_nixon/articles) and [Smith](https://www.thetimes.co.uk/profile/david-smith) ain’t ever been Brexiteers.
Self confession time – I voted out and now regret my decision.
I was one of those people that didn’t realise what was really going on.
At the time I was still serving in the army and was surrounded by quite a few ukip-ers and got drawn in to the side of not wanting EU bureaucrats black mailing and ruling over us.
I never cared about the immigration policy so therefore didn’t pay much attention to it.
And to be fair I never cared about a lot of it but got caught up in a lot of it.
It wasn’t till I was out and in civvy Street and having kids and educating myself about the real world not just my small secular side of things and how much we had been lied to and brainwashed I realised what a mistake I’d made but of course by then it was too late.
I now spend my time fighting and supporting what I believe to be the right causes and apologising for my part in the problem.
I feel that while mistakes were made in terms of the vote and how it affected us if people can’t be forgiven and taught where they got wrong and changes their way of thinking then any hope for change is, well, hopeless.
Great, Britain
>Even the Murdoch press is now waking up to the truth: Brexit was an act of self-harm
They’re not waking up, they’re changing tack. They want rid of Boris, they want a “real” conservative in office that doesn’t bend to public pressure, and doesn’t hand out money to the plebs in “crisis benefits”.
Nope. Guess again. Self-actualisation.
r/badunitedkingdom on suicide watch
…says the guardian.
We had a referendum in the mid 70’s on whether to continue in the EU so can we have a referendum to review the decision to leave. Interestingly, Ted Heath was so moved when we joined the EU he went home on his own to listen to music all evening.
If you’re press, and you weren’t smart enough to figure out that brexit was bad for England, perhaps you’re not smart enough to be in journalism?
Brexit is bad is as easy as Trump lost. Jeez
I voted leave.
To me, the key takeaway from this article, is that there is no prospect of meaningful progress in the UK without Leveson 2 reform of newspaper ownership – is it really radical to ask that Newspaper owners should be British born, pay UK taxes?
Murdoch press hasn’t woken up, they are now allowed to report it, big difference
Bloody Brexshit ate my hamster 😂 🤡🤡🤡
Michael Heseltine writes for the the Guardian?!? That feels … weird.
Time for bre-enter?
The only thing pro brexit “solved” is legal immigrants. Because now there are several tests and checks needed, and 3.5-5k £ in taxes just to be _allowed_ to work. You never stopped the illegal immigrants coming in. And then you fucked imports and exports along the way. Gj
Financed by Putin? Like Trump in the USA?
They wanted and campaigned for Brexit through party political agenda we always here Moggy quoting Daily Mail like it’s a Biblical source.
I think one of the biggest societal issues as a nation is to admit ‘we don’t know’ or were wrong. Most of the electorate don’t understand or are not interested in economics or politics, but everyone was an expert on Brexit. The remain campaign was a disaster, as apposed to the leave campaign, it was succinct and targeted and with the help of Murdoch and his mates they got it done. It’s now unfolding as an abject disaster and leavers are struggling with the fact that they were duped, most still hanging on to their three word slogans.
It just sounds like a bunch of bitter remainers.
One man’s truth is another man’s lie!
And most of us knew this would happen. For the ones that did, it’s like being hit by a car when you have right of way. We’re in hospital with a broken leg knowing we were in the right
The Murdoch press and other right wing papers will never admit Brexit is a disaster. They will say that Brexit failed by being badly implemented, betrayal by Remainers, Johnson botched it or any other excuse.
I do think they will try and say Brexit wasn’t hard enough and demand that Britain break from Europe. I fear they will argue the UK should leave NATO and align with just the USA, especially if the Republicans get in after the 2024 elections.
The brexiters I knew only voted because of immigration first, and a distant second was this vague notion of Brussels being a puppet master. I actually think they’ll be happy how it’s going, but shocked that there are economic consequences for hat they voted for.
Why it’s as if Murdoch chews people up and spits them out!
They didn’t wake up to it. They actively encouraged it, and then dragged out the conflict as long as they could before it became a dog they needed to put down. They’ll just find another cash cow to milk.
The wealthy were never going to be affected by brexit or no brexit. They saw it as a gamble to make even more by dropping EU regs and took a punt on brexit. The wealthy that were affected or could see things getting worse simply moved their money off shore or their company into an EU member State.
Reese Mogg moved his millions to Ireland. Dyson went to Singapore. Us ordinary serfs and plebs didn’t have a chance. Brexit has been bad for the whole population, less a few “non Dom’s” like Sunak’s wife.
We have to guard against vested influence and bad actors. We have failed on this occasion and our enemies have made fools of us.
I didn’t vote for Brexit but feel like it’s not going to be as disastrous as people make out in the long term. I’ve got some hope.
Unfortunately it’s been going to shit in the short term. Maybe I’m just telling myself that there’s something to hope for to make it feel easier to cope that we’ll come out ok.
I suppose the only enjoyable thing is the Brexit voters didn’t understand that it’s going to be a struggle and by the time it might get cleared up, the Tories will most likely not be in power and will be remembered for this shitty period.
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