Hopefully Labour has accepted its warning by working class people…. DON’T fuck it up!
If only this result wasn’t meant as a warning to Boris and the Tories as well. What a state of affairs.
This gives me a little hope for 2024 after all but resigning myself to another 10-15 years of Tory rule…
Thats another command post for the Republic.
Hopefully, the venal, massive bell end and utter liability de Piffle will stay on as PM, blustering and buffooning and damaging the Tory party to the point that it’ll be unelectable for half a century.
Then, the country can be put back on track.
I heard some Tory MP this morning saying that the Tory party needed to return to being “trustworthy and compassionate” and that the resigning chairman was honourable…..I didn’t stop laughing for a minute.
Honour amongst thieves, perhaps.
Jaydah Freyden setting a new record by getting less votes (23) than her previous record (64)
Bravo!
What fantastic news to wake up to!
I get that it’s a good thing but I’ve never understood the disproportionate importance placed by political commentators on these by-elections, it’s like 1 seat out of 600 odd..
Oh, they feeling rich no more?
when dealing with the worst government in living memory Labour should be winning these kind of seats, now you know why the whips were so threatening at Boris’s no confidence vote, a GE now would see the Tories massacred in the polls.
Who the MP for any seat is is completely immaterial, since parliamentary politics is mostly theatre that’s a world apart from the everyday material reality of working class folk in this country. But it says a lot that Labour could win this seat by their largest majority since 2005 on a 20% lower turnout. I never thought we’d see such a turnaround in the space of a year after those abysmal results in Hartlepool and Batley & Spen.
Look at the turnouts, doesn’t seem to be much mention of that in the media. Working class people are now completely disillusioned with politics in this country which is part of the establishments tactics to keep the status quo. Seems the only representation for working class people now are the unions.
Boris is probably flying to Ukraine for another photoshoot right now
Pretty good result for Labour, decent swing, and it shows a comeback in the areas it really needs to take back if they have any chance of becoming the government.
Labour winning isn’t the story. That they won by 4000, in a bielection with a million parties, is winning pretty well. Checking past elections in Wakefield the last time they did this was 2005.
And yet Johnson vows to continue on. How odd the guy that won such a majority is now so unpopular. Yet doesn’t have the mental faculty to see he is dragging the part down with him.
I’ve never been so happy that Boris won his confidence vote. He is our best ally is getting the tories out.
About time !
Yes! I feel a little hopeful about politics again…
I looked at the DM so you don’t have to and the top comments in their current headline article are:
>Time for Boris to go. I wonder what his cabal will do without him?
>16,393 people in Tiverton should be ashamed of themselves for supporting this lying buffoon
>I think we need to accept that johnson has no concept of responsibility or morality and will not resign under any circumstances so we are stuck with him until 2024. Maybe try and limit the damage he and his band of idiots cause, but the country is screw ed
If Boris does not go, the Conservative Party will get hammered in the next GE. The North will go to Labour while some of the south with go to the Libs
I spoz Boris will start offering bigger tax cuts for workers soon, which in turn will mean less money for public services & NHS. We don’t need tax cuts, we need higher wages.
Labour needed to make this gain, and it shows that Starmer is in fact making necessary progress with the party image.
Weird to see some people on the Labour sub and twitter seemingly unhappy about their party doing well. Almost like the world is bigger than echo chambers
It’s a start, obviously Labour would be leaps and bounds better than the vile criminals running the show currently,
but what I’d *really* like to see is a modern, progressive party that are built on the fundamentals of protecting and building rights for the workforce (aka the vast majority of us, sans the tiny ruling class), and built on the need for a greener future, with a strong focus on social programmes that help the people, such as education and healthcare.
Building a strong, healthy, successful nation starts with strong, healthy, successful citizens, because a country isn’t a place on a map, it’s the people that live there.
Make those people destitute, force them to struggle and fall again and again, neglect their health, their education, their basic happiness, and you will see your nation crumble, piece by piece. Much as we’re seeing now 🙁
I don’t think Labour would be interested in solving any of those problems, they seem to be as out of touch with the real actual people in the country as the Tories. I don’t see much hope for us until we can break the two party cycle and try something different (preferably run by people who aren’t old enough to be boomers, they’ve done enough damage already, and need to release their death grip on our society).
But, Labour would at least not be as aggressive about hurting the lower classes, stripping our basic rights, gutting our most valued services and institutions, etc etc, so as I say, Labour are at least a bit better than the alternative.
You’ll always get boomers that will vote Tory though, because this sinking ship is still serving room service, and they know they’re already on their deathbeds, so they’d rather have a nice meal than help patch the holes.
And you’ll get others, “embarrassed millionaires” and people persuaded to vote against their own class interests through propaganda, misinformation and lies, who will vote for them too.
The Tories are also the ones that “got Brexit done”, no matter the damage it is causing, and you’ll get a lot of xenophobes, racists, bigots, etc that will vote for them in support of all that nonsense (even though even *that* is hurting their own class interests – but it helps amplify their bigoted finger-pointing interests).
I just…. don’t see a way out of this mess without getting away from these two parties. They’re too much alike, and both too out of touch with what we the people need as a nation in order to flourish both in our homes and as a strong, happy member of the global community. We need fresh blood. Real people. Not old men in suits that don’t know the price of bread.
Tory rebels really did overlook these by-elections the other week. Had they have waited to have the no confidence vote, it would have been very close this time.
The biggest problem though is everyone is saying “Boris has to go” (I think he does as well after partygate for family reasons) but who is to say that his replacement will be any better, least to mention competence.
Here in the Tory south, where we are facing economic migrant invasion, it is Tory policy on this issue that is why they stay blue. Labour won’t win over the farmers, or our elderly. The Lib Dem’s do well in the south west but would perhaps actually stand a chance of being taken seriously by us coastal voters and turn south coast seats orange if they dropped their silly reverse brexit policies that just ostracise voters and turn sects of society to the tories.
The Lib Dem’s are still recovering slowly from 2015 and aren’t in a position to cherry pick their voters. Nobody in my constituency takes them seriously at election time, not since they took the ‘15 beating. And that has led to LD voters tactical voting. Rather than treating the symptoms, they need to tap into the Tory voter market while they can.
Boris Johnson says he will ‘keep going’ after double byelection loss and Oliver Dowden resignation – UK politics live
Andrew Sparrow (The Guardian) – 40m ago
Yep, keep going Boris –
I wonder if the Consevatives are just giving up and trying to find cushy jobs and letting labour drive during the recession
After Boris insisting he won’t lose Wakefield in PMQ’s a few days ago, this is absolutely delicious lmao
Not hard. The first and last Tory MP we just had was done for child grooming/pictures of minors. Don’t let this food you, the people of Wakefield have no faith in Labour.
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Turnout of 39% for Wakefield. Am I alone in finding that crazy?
Lib dems won Tiverton as well apparently.
And lib dems win Tiverton!
And they’ve just lost Tiverton and Honiton to the LibDems. [Tiverton & Honiton parliamentary by-election result –
LDEM: 52.9% .
Liberal Democrat GAIN from Conservative.](https://twitter.com/BritainElects/status/1540168992106713088)
Hopefully Labour has accepted its warning by working class people…. DON’T fuck it up!
If only this result wasn’t meant as a warning to Boris and the Tories as well. What a state of affairs.
This gives me a little hope for 2024 after all but resigning myself to another 10-15 years of Tory rule…
Thats another command post for the Republic.
Hopefully, the venal, massive bell end and utter liability de Piffle will stay on as PM, blustering and buffooning and damaging the Tory party to the point that it’ll be unelectable for half a century.
Then, the country can be put back on track.
I heard some Tory MP this morning saying that the Tory party needed to return to being “trustworthy and compassionate” and that the resigning chairman was honourable…..I didn’t stop laughing for a minute.
Honour amongst thieves, perhaps.
Jaydah Freyden setting a new record by getting less votes (23) than her previous record (64)
Bravo!
What fantastic news to wake up to!
I get that it’s a good thing but I’ve never understood the disproportionate importance placed by political commentators on these by-elections, it’s like 1 seat out of 600 odd..
Oh, they feeling rich no more?
when dealing with the worst government in living memory Labour should be winning these kind of seats, now you know why the whips were so threatening at Boris’s no confidence vote, a GE now would see the Tories massacred in the polls.
Who the MP for any seat is is completely immaterial, since parliamentary politics is mostly theatre that’s a world apart from the everyday material reality of working class folk in this country. But it says a lot that Labour could win this seat by their largest majority since 2005 on a 20% lower turnout. I never thought we’d see such a turnaround in the space of a year after those abysmal results in Hartlepool and Batley & Spen.
Look at the turnouts, doesn’t seem to be much mention of that in the media. Working class people are now completely disillusioned with politics in this country which is part of the establishments tactics to keep the status quo. Seems the only representation for working class people now are the unions.
Boris is probably flying to Ukraine for another photoshoot right now
Pretty good result for Labour, decent swing, and it shows a comeback in the areas it really needs to take back if they have any chance of becoming the government.
Labour winning isn’t the story. That they won by 4000, in a bielection with a million parties, is winning pretty well. Checking past elections in Wakefield the last time they did this was 2005.
And yet Johnson vows to continue on. How odd the guy that won such a majority is now so unpopular. Yet doesn’t have the mental faculty to see he is dragging the part down with him.
I’ve never been so happy that Boris won his confidence vote. He is our best ally is getting the tories out.
About time !
Yes! I feel a little hopeful about politics again…
I looked at the DM so you don’t have to and the top comments in their current headline article are:
>Time for Boris to go. I wonder what his cabal will do without him?
>16,393 people in Tiverton should be ashamed of themselves for supporting this lying buffoon
>I think we need to accept that johnson has no concept of responsibility or morality and will not resign under any circumstances so we are stuck with him until 2024. Maybe try and limit the damage he and his band of idiots cause, but the country is screw ed
If Boris does not go, the Conservative Party will get hammered in the next GE. The North will go to Labour while some of the south with go to the Libs
I spoz Boris will start offering bigger tax cuts for workers soon, which in turn will mean less money for public services & NHS. We don’t need tax cuts, we need higher wages.
Labour needed to make this gain, and it shows that Starmer is in fact making necessary progress with the party image.
Weird to see some people on the Labour sub and twitter seemingly unhappy about their party doing well. Almost like the world is bigger than echo chambers
It’s a start, obviously Labour would be leaps and bounds better than the vile criminals running the show currently,
but what I’d *really* like to see is a modern, progressive party that are built on the fundamentals of protecting and building rights for the workforce (aka the vast majority of us, sans the tiny ruling class), and built on the need for a greener future, with a strong focus on social programmes that help the people, such as education and healthcare.
Building a strong, healthy, successful nation starts with strong, healthy, successful citizens, because a country isn’t a place on a map, it’s the people that live there.
Make those people destitute, force them to struggle and fall again and again, neglect their health, their education, their basic happiness, and you will see your nation crumble, piece by piece. Much as we’re seeing now 🙁
I don’t think Labour would be interested in solving any of those problems, they seem to be as out of touch with the real actual people in the country as the Tories. I don’t see much hope for us until we can break the two party cycle and try something different (preferably run by people who aren’t old enough to be boomers, they’ve done enough damage already, and need to release their death grip on our society).
But, Labour would at least not be as aggressive about hurting the lower classes, stripping our basic rights, gutting our most valued services and institutions, etc etc, so as I say, Labour are at least a bit better than the alternative.
You’ll always get boomers that will vote Tory though, because this sinking ship is still serving room service, and they know they’re already on their deathbeds, so they’d rather have a nice meal than help patch the holes.
And you’ll get others, “embarrassed millionaires” and people persuaded to vote against their own class interests through propaganda, misinformation and lies, who will vote for them too.
The Tories are also the ones that “got Brexit done”, no matter the damage it is causing, and you’ll get a lot of xenophobes, racists, bigots, etc that will vote for them in support of all that nonsense (even though even *that* is hurting their own class interests – but it helps amplify their bigoted finger-pointing interests).
I just…. don’t see a way out of this mess without getting away from these two parties. They’re too much alike, and both too out of touch with what we the people need as a nation in order to flourish both in our homes and as a strong, happy member of the global community. We need fresh blood. Real people. Not old men in suits that don’t know the price of bread.
Tory rebels really did overlook these by-elections the other week. Had they have waited to have the no confidence vote, it would have been very close this time.
The biggest problem though is everyone is saying “Boris has to go” (I think he does as well after partygate for family reasons) but who is to say that his replacement will be any better, least to mention competence.
Here in the Tory south, where we are facing economic migrant invasion, it is Tory policy on this issue that is why they stay blue. Labour won’t win over the farmers, or our elderly. The Lib Dem’s do well in the south west but would perhaps actually stand a chance of being taken seriously by us coastal voters and turn south coast seats orange if they dropped their silly reverse brexit policies that just ostracise voters and turn sects of society to the tories.
The Lib Dem’s are still recovering slowly from 2015 and aren’t in a position to cherry pick their voters. Nobody in my constituency takes them seriously at election time, not since they took the ‘15 beating. And that has led to LD voters tactical voting. Rather than treating the symptoms, they need to tap into the Tory voter market while they can.
Boris Johnson says he will ‘keep going’ after double byelection loss and Oliver Dowden resignation – UK politics live
Andrew Sparrow (The Guardian) – 40m ago
Yep, keep going Boris –
I wonder if the Consevatives are just giving up and trying to find cushy jobs and letting labour drive during the recession
After Boris insisting he won’t lose Wakefield in PMQ’s a few days ago, this is absolutely delicious lmao
Not hard. The first and last Tory MP we just had was done for child grooming/pictures of minors. Don’t let this food you, the people of Wakefield have no faith in Labour.