This actually sounds sensible. Is everyone feeling ok?
>Labour has broken its long silence on Brexit, laying out detailed plans to improve, not scrap, the deal Boris Johnson struck with the EU, in a move it concedes will enrage remain supporters.
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>On the sixth anniversary of the Brexit referendum, the shadow foreign secretary, David Lammy, confirmed the party would seek only limited changes and would not seek to rejoin the single market.
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>“We are not going into the next election saying that we will enter the single market or the EU.
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>“You might not like it but Labour is determined to govern the entire country,” he said adding “there cannot be a rehash of arguments” made in remainer constituencies like his in London.
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>“The British people have made a decision and we have to honour it,” he told the UK in a Changing Europe’s annual conference.
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>His remarks came just hours after former Brexit negotiator Lord Frost declared “Brexit is working” and said those who said it was damaging the economy had an “axe to grind”.
Not a good move to paint yourself into a corner to satisfy the Brexit bullies as this will only encourage them and they will never be sated.
sure do love how politicians continue to ignore basically half the country, pander to the leavers at the cost of the economy, cheers
This is good, running on any kind of remain/rejoin platform would be electoral suicide. Labour already has good support from the main remain supporting demographics, the people they need to swing the next election are more likely to be Brexit voters and so this will play well.
Rejoining is out of the question for a generation, but there is scope for some kind of customs union, perhaps aligning with NI. It’s better that Brexit be parked so that the domestic iniquities that fueled brexit be tackled.
Just tell the leave morons that we’re doing a Norway and get on with it. A captains job is not to sink the ship just cause some pricks fancy a swim
Initial thoughts are its pandering to brexiteers etc but then I think/optimistically hope it’s more of a long game.
Right now, as much as I wish were the case, Labour running a campaign on rejoining would probably not win. Doesn’t help that Labour are abit of a mess but nonetheless, I don’t think it’s the best approach.
A more cautious approach, a few beneficial changes here and there are more likely to appeal to all. It could win brexiteers who see the benefits. It’ll get remainers cos any remainer voting for tory is a fucking idiot and then hopefully they come to power.
If that’s the case, they can do the small fixes, then push the rejoin agenda perhaps if they can show the benefits again.
Basically a marathon not a sprint
The problem is the EU have to actually agree to this and they are hardly the most amenable or malleable party in a negotiation, it would probably take them 6 months to even work out their position. If Labour make it a manifesto commitment, they can basically ask for whatever they want off us.
Bad move politically imo. Labour would be better moving the narrative away from Brexit, it is where Boris thrives.
Labour need to move on from Brexit and focus on the challenges facing us today like the cost of living crisis, post covid economy issues, working from home and Ukraine. Otherwise they will lose again.
Appropriate that the main photo they used is that of Boris Johnson, since Keir is basically a Tory-lite similar to the Conservatives in every way except actually having a basic moral compass.
It’s all very well having plans, but they have no guarantees the EU would simply agree to any of this without asking for something in return. It’s just dreams
FFS Labour Tory MPs are suggesting rejoining the Single Market
Labour, well I’m reminded of the Paddy Ashdown from Spitting Image in the late 80s/90s “we are neither for rejoining the SM nor against it”.
I can’t see why the EU would sit down for renegotiations, even for limited changes, every time the British change government. You voted to leave and you voted overwhelmingly for the party that negotiated the Brexit deal so the onus is on your future governments to make that deal work. That’s part of that taking back control you wanted.
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This actually sounds sensible. Is everyone feeling ok?
>Labour has broken its long silence on Brexit, laying out detailed plans to improve, not scrap, the deal Boris Johnson struck with the EU, in a move it concedes will enrage remain supporters.
>
>On the sixth anniversary of the Brexit referendum, the shadow foreign secretary, David Lammy, confirmed the party would seek only limited changes and would not seek to rejoin the single market.
>
>“We are not going into the next election saying that we will enter the single market or the EU.
>
>“You might not like it but Labour is determined to govern the entire country,” he said adding “there cannot be a rehash of arguments” made in remainer constituencies like his in London.
>
>“The British people have made a decision and we have to honour it,” he told the UK in a Changing Europe’s annual conference.
>
>His remarks came just hours after former Brexit negotiator Lord Frost declared “Brexit is working” and said those who said it was damaging the economy had an “axe to grind”.
Not a good move to paint yourself into a corner to satisfy the Brexit bullies as this will only encourage them and they will never be sated.
sure do love how politicians continue to ignore basically half the country, pander to the leavers at the cost of the economy, cheers
This is good, running on any kind of remain/rejoin platform would be electoral suicide. Labour already has good support from the main remain supporting demographics, the people they need to swing the next election are more likely to be Brexit voters and so this will play well.
Rejoining is out of the question for a generation, but there is scope for some kind of customs union, perhaps aligning with NI. It’s better that Brexit be parked so that the domestic iniquities that fueled brexit be tackled.
Just tell the leave morons that we’re doing a Norway and get on with it. A captains job is not to sink the ship just cause some pricks fancy a swim
Initial thoughts are its pandering to brexiteers etc but then I think/optimistically hope it’s more of a long game.
Right now, as much as I wish were the case, Labour running a campaign on rejoining would probably not win. Doesn’t help that Labour are abit of a mess but nonetheless, I don’t think it’s the best approach.
A more cautious approach, a few beneficial changes here and there are more likely to appeal to all. It could win brexiteers who see the benefits. It’ll get remainers cos any remainer voting for tory is a fucking idiot and then hopefully they come to power.
If that’s the case, they can do the small fixes, then push the rejoin agenda perhaps if they can show the benefits again.
Basically a marathon not a sprint
The problem is the EU have to actually agree to this and they are hardly the most amenable or malleable party in a negotiation, it would probably take them 6 months to even work out their position. If Labour make it a manifesto commitment, they can basically ask for whatever they want off us.
Bad move politically imo. Labour would be better moving the narrative away from Brexit, it is where Boris thrives.
Labour need to move on from Brexit and focus on the challenges facing us today like the cost of living crisis, post covid economy issues, working from home and Ukraine. Otherwise they will lose again.
Appropriate that the main photo they used is that of Boris Johnson, since Keir is basically a Tory-lite similar to the Conservatives in every way except actually having a basic moral compass.
It’s all very well having plans, but they have no guarantees the EU would simply agree to any of this without asking for something in return. It’s just dreams
FFS Labour Tory MPs are suggesting rejoining the Single Market
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jun/02/tory-mp-brexiter-backlash-call-rejoin-eu-single-market-tobias-ellwood
A brexiteer Tory Lord has said it was a mistake to leave the SM
https://www.thenational.scot/news/20187957.brexiteer-peer-lord-hannan-admits-uk-stayed-single-market/
Labour, well I’m reminded of the Paddy Ashdown from Spitting Image in the late 80s/90s “we are neither for rejoining the SM nor against it”.
I can’t see why the EU would sit down for renegotiations, even for limited changes, every time the British change government. You voted to leave and you voted overwhelmingly for the party that negotiated the Brexit deal so the onus is on your future governments to make that deal work. That’s part of that taking back control you wanted.