Traces of polio virus found in London sewage as health officials declare national incident

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  1. Jacob Rees Mogg : now get those street urchins up the chimneys and down the mines, and my plans to take Britain back to the “good old days” of 1850 will be nearly complete.

  2. Good thing there’s a vaccine that actually works, has a 99.9% success rate, that’s what a real vaccine actually looks like by the way.

  3. Surprised to learn you can get Polio from the oral vaccine. On Wikipedia it lists “vaccine-derived” cases, as well as “wild cases”. Eg in 2019 Pakistan had 147 wild cases and 22 vaccine-derived, Angola had 0 wild and 129 vaccine-derived, Philippines had 0 wild and 15 vaccine-derived, several other countries also had only vaccine-derived cases – Pakistan and Afghanistan being the only ones with any wild cases. Obviously without the vaccine there’d probably be thousands of wild cases in those societies, but quite interesting since I’ve never heard of modern vaccines causing the illness they’re aimed preventing. Seems the weakened polio can enter the gut and apparently infect someone else (not the person who was vaccinated), if they aren’t vaccinated and poor sanitation/sewage systems causes them to come in contact with the excreted virus.

    [https://www.who.int/news-room/questions-and-answers/item/poliomyelitis-vaccine-derived-polio](https://www.who.int/news-room/questions-and-answers/item/poliomyelitis-vaccine-derived-polio)

    [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polio#Epidemiology](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polio#Epidemiology)

  4. The world is currently a hot dog and we are the onions of life that revolve around it.

    Pox, Covid and now this… Well they are the mustard upon which the eater is choking.

    Stay safe humans.

  5. If we’re being real about it, it’s going to be certain communities that are at the epicentre of this. Part of me wonders if there’s much that can be done given the inevitable language and cultural barriers that will inevitably be thrown up around trying to solve this.

  6. I mean, let’s be fair. At least we’ve found this, published it publicly and are dealing with it robustly. Almost as if a similar pandemic could have been dealt with like this…

  7. Polio is probably one of the better infections in that water. Fucking scummy companies pouring their waste into it

  8. It pains me to say this, but this is because of the antivax movement that’s just growing and growing. I know it’s an unpopular opinion, but if a grown adult doesn’t want the Covid vaccine then that’s none of my business but for a parent not to get their child vaccinated against the likes of measles, mumps and polio etc is truly another level of selfish. My sister in law has refused to get her children vaccinated and it has caused so much shit for my brother and so many arguments, but she cannot be reasoned with. She justifies it by saying that the vaccines cause autism and will not have it any other way. It’s sickening because these illnesses can be dealt with in seconds with a tiny needle, yet they can turn deadly in the blink of an eye.

  9. Anyone else just done with this nonsense now. I’m not a conspiracy theorists, but I’m starting to believe we really are in the worst timeline.

  10. If anyones interested in the background:

    Polio vaccines come in two forms, one is a weakened version of the virus Oral Polio Vaccine (OPV) which can rarely cause illness in people, and be spread via feces to other non vaccinated people, which if continues unabated can eventually evolve back into being virulent and capable of paralysis like the wild version. Because of this in the UK and places without the disease actively spreading they use an inactived Polio vaccine (IPV) which uses a strain that cant cause illness or spread, but its less effective at preventing transmission, its more like the covid vaccine in that it prevents disease but allows for asymptomatic transmission and is more expensive.
    So in the UK we test for some diseases etc in sewage so we can notice if things are spreading and they detected a strain of the weakened virus thats similar to that contained in vaccines, which we do observe every so often when people come here after having a live OPV abroad and in the rare case that the virus takes hold and manages to shed into their feces. But recently they seem to have detected it for a few months in a row, and although they didn’t say I presume they also noted that the samples found were genetically similar, as they’re suggesting that now they think that that weakened form is spreading in london in small amounts.

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