When western Europeans see that statistics are better in Eastern Europe they are finding the reasons why statistics are wrong. It can’t be that thier country have problems could it?

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  1. It’s not a crime rate as per but rather how often the incidents are reported tho

  3. These posts are kind of pointless imo. You’re letting the boogie man get you down.

  5. Poland doesnt include rape statistics by the clergy, obviously,…

  6. It’s because these numbers are not comparable.

    1. In Nordic countries rape is counted by how many times it happened, even if the rapist is the same person.
    2. In Poland, unfortunately, I know too many women that were raped but did not report the crime.

    You have to be mad to think that the UK has a 50 times higher rape rate than Poland.

  7. It is possible that rape is reported less frequently and proven even less frequently in e.g. Poland. This is obviously anecdotal but my friend was sexually abused quite recently and all the charges were dropped as there wasn’t enough evidence (though based on what she was saying there was plenty). Tough to say really but i always was a doubting Thomas.

  8. Maybe the definition of rape is different. In Eastern Europe rape means only and exactly rape, while in Western Europe(e.g UK) and Scandinavia, not consensual sex is considered as rape. There were already cases when women reported his boyfriend, because he didn’t ask about consent before sex, when they were 2 years together already.

  10. 2 things: Underreporting and misogynistic Police and Law Systems. Yes, this has to be taken with a large grain of salt AND imputed in the context considering the number of cases that EVEN get reported.

  11. I don’t think this is the hill you want to die on. Those numbers are not standardized in any way and sexual assaults are notoriously underreported everywhere, especially so in more conservative, religious, places. Poland might be better in some ways, but this is not evidence of that. I mean just look at Iceland. They’re a notoriously safe society and somehow they have over 30 times the rapes as Poland? Absolutely not.

  12. sometimes people are so fuckin stupid… this statistic isn’t about how many rapes occur per 100k people. rather it’s a statistic about how many reports on the matter are made per 100k. yeah, statistics can be very misleading. and some people are just too stupid to notice.
    going with that thought, it shows that because of superior sexual education in the western eu, more people are willing to report a rape on them, rather than stay quiet and just “let it go” , “you are the one to blame” as we in the eastern countries are taught. this is the reality. sex education and psychlogical treatment in countries like UK and Scandinavia is much more superior. that’s why there are so many cases, and in eastern countries so little, because people are taught to keep quiet, either because they are scared of the rapist, or feel guilt even tho they did nothing wrong.
    in reality the true amount of rapes per 100k people in whole Europe is probably around a 1000. I’m guessing here, but I believe I’m not far off. that means, looking at this map, every 1 out of 100 cases are reported in UK, while every 1 out of a 1000 cases are reported i in poland. THAT’S HOW THIS STATISTIC WORKS. it doesn’t mean more rapes occur in western countries. I believe this amount is about the same in all of the countries. the scale of reporting cases is different. and it isn’t looking good towards eastern europe, contrary to what the map says.
    im sure now some morons that take this map as the proof that poland or any other eastern eu country is better than western countries is gonna shit out his idiotic view on this under this comment, so those that have a brain, please ignore those. I certainly will

  13. It could also be about reporting. Or about what constitutes rape in different countries. Or the amount of people (that’s probably why Iceland is so high, according to my calculations it’s approximately 230 people – for reference, it’s approximately 717 people in Poland).

  14. True. I do live in England and I’ve seen more crime in a year than in 10 years in Slovakia…. ….. With our government being on TV, that’s hard to beat.

  16. Funny how western Europeans when presented with statistics about theft don’t make up excuses about how police is incompetent and negligent, that there are various definitions and monetary values when something is considered a theft and just take them at face value. But when it comes to reporting sexual violence, they become super defensive and try to ignore reality.

  17. In Poland it’s heavily under-reported, because society is very patriarchal and backwards catholic, so there is ‘no rape’ when in fact there was. That’s just facts

  18. This map has the exact same type of problem as for example [this map.](https://jakubmarian.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/number-of-guns-per-capita1.jpg) It would seem for example, that there are not many guns in Poland compared to other european countries. But when you look deeper, at the laws of “what is considered a gun” and what needs to be “registered” and what not… then it does not seem like we are way less armed than our neighbours.

    Similarly, other countries may define those “crime” and “crime rates” differently, counting recurring offences each time for example, encouraging reporting instead of discouraging it and so on.

  19. Import 3rd world, become 3rd world. Shocking, I know.

  20. Ehhh… we would need to know a lot of details. What’s the legal definition of rape in each country?
    How many victims actually report it?
    How many cases are picked up by the authorities?

  21. It’s the same story with intentional homicide and robbery. We, Poles, can bitch about our country for many good reasons but being unsafe is just not one of them. The truth is, in a country populated by 38 mln people, if someone gets stabbed, shot or beaten severely, it’s a **country wide** news.

  22. in balkan the judge says eyo 12 year old girl gave consent, it’s ok.

  23. But this IS wrong. Different things qualify as rape in different countries. And also degree of reporting AND registering rapes IS different. There was a case recently in Poland where court ruled that the rape didnt count, because the victim didnt scream loud enough. Don’t try to make wild specuations in your head, go check how it really is.

  25. V4 (Poland, Czechia, Slovakia and Hungary) is Central Europe.

  26. “bUt tHe sTaTisTiCs LiE”

    “UnDeRRePoRtiNg”

    Just admit accepting refugees was a mistake, Swedish PM already admitted

  27. If I’d were to guess I’d say its related to religion of peace™ believers population…

    >!thats so racist…!<

  29. It is a bad map at so many levels. Ok so let me explain Poland.
    1. Many rapes in PL are inside families with common rule “if he NEEDS then she MUST”. With that many of rapes are husbund on wife. And often couples not even considere it as rape so women don’t report it to the police.
    2. There is a big social pressure to not reporting rapes, especially at villages. Polish women even if report that, police can do a little at the case because they just don’t wanna.
    3. If even police do something with that and there will be a trial there is still little chances to win trial because of our law. You don’t need just be raped, you must also prove that you were fighting back. Without that in the law definition you weren’t raped (good to know that many rape victims shocked of situation don’t have power to move body and there is even more difficult to fight back opressor).

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