They taking the roads and busses with them and fucking off to jersey or something? Cream before jam will rule supreme!
53% voted Tory in the last GE, with the next largest party being Labour at 23%.
Not really sure why they’re whinging, they got what they asked for…
Why is the photo a south eastern train for the south west?
These headlines make me laugh. It’s never,
“Rail workers face poverty” or “budget cuts means rail workers face loss of wages, earnings and support” or “budget cuts mean safety will be compromised for rail workers”
Nah, instead it’s “Cornwall cut off”, “chaos for holiday makers and festival goers”, “rail workers strike disrupts the entire country”
These fucking bullshit papers need to stop with this greedy rail workers narrative and start calling it out for what it is. Greedy companies wishing to keep their bonuses and dividends whilst the working class get shafted again.
As someone who lives in Cornwall…GOOD!
Isn’t that what Cornwall wants?
Finally, some good news.
Cornwall live: Strikes will mean we won’t have a rail service for several days!
Me, having grown up in North Cornwall: You guys have a rail service?
I live in Cornwall. Am all for the strikes. I hope they get their way. Viva la revolution!
Isn’t this what the Cornish have always wanted?
Ah the selfish rail workers once again! They are really really mean. All the poor people who must go on holiday or go to their secondary residence. Think of these poor souls. /s
Cexit means Cexit!
Cornwall is so badly served in infrastructure for non motorists anyway that literally any bad weather or blockage to the lines or roads “cuts it off”. Stop pretending this is the fault of people seeking fair pay and conditions for their work. If a rail strike cuts off part of the country that’s a consequence of awful infrastructure and bad planning.
So something the tories have probably floated a number of times?
We ought to go full Looney Tunes and use a big saw and cut away the whole peninsula and let it drift away.
I live in Cornwall and as others have mentioned the trains are garbage anyway, doubt we’ll see much of a difference – good on the workers, I hope they get what they’re campaigning for.
what about the A30? the road isn’t going on strike as well is it?
I hope the workers get what they ask for and more, in spite of the slander the media have been hurling at them this whole time.
Good, nice of the RMT to remind people that the power is in workers hands.
Is this not Cornish peoples wet dream?
I am meant to be travelling to the UK (In – Thurs 30th/Out – Sat 2nd Jun) and will rely on trains to get me to and from the airport. With the rumblings of strikes causing further disruption beyond these dates should I just sack off the trip?
Sorry if I’m being ignorant, but can someone please explain what it is the rail workers want?
I was reading an article on the bbc today which said that the average pay for even the lowest paid workers (ticket collectors, information desk workers etc) was £33k. Then it goes up to about £45k for engineers and 60k for drivers. This seems quite reasonable to me? Or am I missing something? Yes we’ve just come out of a pandemic but I haven’t had a pay rise either in 3 years. I’m an engineer. And I’m on significantly less than the rail engineers despite being in the same sector. Network rail have always paid their engineers a lot more than my company. I’m on pay closer to the ticket collectors. I faced pay cuts during the pandemic and have had little support since the price of living has gone up. But I’m on a good enough wage to not have to worry about struggling.
But why shouldn’t I be complaining about no pay rises? Can someone explain what I’m missing here? I’m not trying to argue for or against the strikes, just genuinely curious. I thought every sector was struggling for job security and lack of pay to combat the cost of living.
Sorry, but not all strikes are a good thing.
I am in favour of collective bargaining, as the most advanced European countries have. But in collective bargaining it sometimes happens that a particular union is trying to grab more stuff than the rest of the society feels they deserve.
The mean salary of train drivers is £59,189.
The mean salary of a nurse is £31,093.
They’re vastly overpaid in relation to their skills, education, and how well they are performing their jobs by all available international comparisons.
They are not “working class” except in the sense of there being no education requirements of their profession. So uneducated for the most part. That does not make them worse, but it is is not something to be celebrated either. Society should generally value education, even the sort which has no practical application. Because it really is a civilizing force; the value of education has been pretty well established since at least the Enlightenment. People on 60 grand who spend most of their time standing around doing nothing ought to be a lot more educated (I’m saying through self-study) than our train staff are. The working class culture of low standards does nobody any favours.
“So you’re saying I’m the lower orders because I’m uneducated?” No, I’m saying that you’re deserving of respect and a good life as we all are, but a lack of education is still not a desirable quality for a person. And excessive self-righteousness about the “instincts”, the “intuition” and the “street smarts” etc. of the uneducated, while sometimes true in individual cases, on the whole tends to be a force for anti-intellectualism, which can be very bad.
Maybe the rest of the society needs to push back a little. We’re already hiring more train staff and paying them more generously than we need.
This should not be a left/right issue. I’m a socialist, but that does not mean I want inefficient, expensive public services with unfair pay disparities across the public sector.
As someone from Devon.
OH WELL, what a shame, never mind.
Thats what you get for putting the jam on first, you monsters.
But everyone on this sub doesn’t care “bEcAuSe RaIlWaY wOrkErs ArEnt MakInG EnUff MonEY” eventhough they have some of the best wages and perks around.
Based on what I know about Cornish people, I assume they couldn’t be happier about being cut off from the rest of the UK.
Maybe the companies should pay their staff properly and not threaten to make several thousand of them redundant then.
ITV news had a similar attitude on their segment on the strike today. Quoting tory ministers, had three correspondents across the country gathering angry vox pops outside train stations, mentioned rising cost of fuel as anger bait since more people would have to drive (ignoring the irony of mentioning cost of living increases Vs a paltry 2% wage bump), even paraded around a disabled lad and a woman with long covid as examples of the people hurt by ‘heartless union behaviour’. They didn’t breathe a word of *why* these strikes were happening except one throw away line of “over pay and conditions”.
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Cornwall unlikely to notice.
They taking the roads and busses with them and fucking off to jersey or something? Cream before jam will rule supreme!
53% voted Tory in the last GE, with the next largest party being Labour at 23%.
Not really sure why they’re whinging, they got what they asked for…
Why is the photo a south eastern train for the south west?
These headlines make me laugh. It’s never,
“Rail workers face poverty” or “budget cuts means rail workers face loss of wages, earnings and support” or “budget cuts mean safety will be compromised for rail workers”
Nah, instead it’s “Cornwall cut off”, “chaos for holiday makers and festival goers”, “rail workers strike disrupts the entire country”
These fucking bullshit papers need to stop with this greedy rail workers narrative and start calling it out for what it is. Greedy companies wishing to keep their bonuses and dividends whilst the working class get shafted again.
As someone who lives in Cornwall…GOOD!
Isn’t that what Cornwall wants?
Finally, some good news.
Cornwall live: Strikes will mean we won’t have a rail service for several days!
Me, having grown up in North Cornwall: You guys have a rail service?
I live in Cornwall. Am all for the strikes. I hope they get their way. Viva la revolution!
Isn’t this what the Cornish have always wanted?
Ah the selfish rail workers once again! They are really really mean. All the poor people who must go on holiday or go to their secondary residence. Think of these poor souls. /s
Cexit means Cexit!
Cornwall is so badly served in infrastructure for non motorists anyway that literally any bad weather or blockage to the lines or roads “cuts it off”. Stop pretending this is the fault of people seeking fair pay and conditions for their work. If a rail strike cuts off part of the country that’s a consequence of awful infrastructure and bad planning.
So something the tories have probably floated a number of times?
We ought to go full Looney Tunes and use a big saw and cut away the whole peninsula and let it drift away.
I live in Cornwall and as others have mentioned the trains are garbage anyway, doubt we’ll see much of a difference – good on the workers, I hope they get what they’re campaigning for.
what about the A30? the road isn’t going on strike as well is it?
I hope the workers get what they ask for and more, in spite of the slander the media have been hurling at them this whole time.
Good, nice of the RMT to remind people that the power is in workers hands.
Is this not Cornish peoples wet dream?
I am meant to be travelling to the UK (In – Thurs 30th/Out – Sat 2nd Jun) and will rely on trains to get me to and from the airport. With the rumblings of strikes causing further disruption beyond these dates should I just sack off the trip?
Sorry if I’m being ignorant, but can someone please explain what it is the rail workers want?
I was reading an article on the bbc today which said that the average pay for even the lowest paid workers (ticket collectors, information desk workers etc) was £33k. Then it goes up to about £45k for engineers and 60k for drivers. This seems quite reasonable to me? Or am I missing something? Yes we’ve just come out of a pandemic but I haven’t had a pay rise either in 3 years. I’m an engineer. And I’m on significantly less than the rail engineers despite being in the same sector. Network rail have always paid their engineers a lot more than my company. I’m on pay closer to the ticket collectors. I faced pay cuts during the pandemic and have had little support since the price of living has gone up. But I’m on a good enough wage to not have to worry about struggling.
But why shouldn’t I be complaining about no pay rises? Can someone explain what I’m missing here? I’m not trying to argue for or against the strikes, just genuinely curious. I thought every sector was struggling for job security and lack of pay to combat the cost of living.
Sorry, but not all strikes are a good thing.
I am in favour of collective bargaining, as the most advanced European countries have. But in collective bargaining it sometimes happens that a particular union is trying to grab more stuff than the rest of the society feels they deserve.
The mean salary of train drivers is £59,189.
The mean salary of a nurse is £31,093.
They’re vastly overpaid in relation to their skills, education, and how well they are performing their jobs by all available international comparisons.
They are not “working class” except in the sense of there being no education requirements of their profession. So uneducated for the most part. That does not make them worse, but it is is not something to be celebrated either. Society should generally value education, even the sort which has no practical application. Because it really is a civilizing force; the value of education has been pretty well established since at least the Enlightenment. People on 60 grand who spend most of their time standing around doing nothing ought to be a lot more educated (I’m saying through self-study) than our train staff are. The working class culture of low standards does nobody any favours.
“So you’re saying I’m the lower orders because I’m uneducated?” No, I’m saying that you’re deserving of respect and a good life as we all are, but a lack of education is still not a desirable quality for a person. And excessive self-righteousness about the “instincts”, the “intuition” and the “street smarts” etc. of the uneducated, while sometimes true in individual cases, on the whole tends to be a force for anti-intellectualism, which can be very bad.
Maybe the rest of the society needs to push back a little. We’re already hiring more train staff and paying them more generously than we need.
This should not be a left/right issue. I’m a socialist, but that does not mean I want inefficient, expensive public services with unfair pay disparities across the public sector.
As someone from Devon.
OH WELL, what a shame, never mind.
Thats what you get for putting the jam on first, you monsters.
But everyone on this sub doesn’t care “bEcAuSe RaIlWaY wOrkErs ArEnt MakInG EnUff MonEY” eventhough they have some of the best wages and perks around.
Based on what I know about Cornish people, I assume they couldn’t be happier about being cut off from the rest of the UK.
Maybe the companies should pay their staff properly and not threaten to make several thousand of them redundant then.
ITV news had a similar attitude on their segment on the strike today. Quoting tory ministers, had three correspondents across the country gathering angry vox pops outside train stations, mentioned rising cost of fuel as anger bait since more people would have to drive (ignoring the irony of mentioning cost of living increases Vs a paltry 2% wage bump), even paraded around a disabled lad and a woman with long covid as examples of the people hurt by ‘heartless union behaviour’. They didn’t breathe a word of *why* these strikes were happening except one throw away line of “over pay and conditions”.
Companies cause strikes.