Modern police: “do literally anything before punishing criminals”
Problem with law and order is once the lower masses realise much of it is now a mere illusion, it’s very costly to get law and order back.
Freedom, civil society and peace are not defaults of man, we require institutions and structures to maintain them all.
Is it that different than the driving courses police offer car drivers for certain offences?
How about educating riders before they are allowed out on the road?
If someone causes an accident riding one of the damn things at speed on the pavement, surely ignorance of a fucking obvious law should be no defence?
These are all over the continent and work well as a green transport solution. Why is the UK so, so slow on treating them as basically bicycles? It’s also absurd to expect users to mingle with car traffic. Far safer and environmentally friendly to convert more roads to cycle and scooter only traffic.
> E-scooter riders who are found to have broken the law should be be offered education before being prosecuted, a police chief has said.
> E-scooters cannot currently be used in public outside of government trial zones, such as Canterbury.
Or they could just _update_ the laws to remove this idiotic exclusion, and save everyone the time, hassle and money involved.
>Last year, **a woman** was seriously injured…
Not x people, a (one) woman
Even the top police are saying to be understanding. The throw away the key and think about the after-effects later or deport em to Rwanda crowds aren’t going to be happy.
How about making sure that all users of the road, car, cyclists and escooters are legally required to have insurance and actually know the highway code
I’ve been knocked over more than once by a food delivery cyclist cutting between the road and pavement. Luckily I’m fairly resilient but I’ve seen old people knocked over more than once, knocked my walk between the train station and home
No. Prosecute them like anyone else without insurance/mot/VED/licence.
Fucking ridiculous.
They should be taxed and insured to start with.
Make them scoot to Rwanda
I don’t drive so I can’t comment on whether they are a menace on the road. However I can absolutely complain about the rental scooters, and bikes that just litter the fucking pavement. Not only are they ugly they are a hazard.
How about change educate for execute?
Someone said what I was thinking! Thank you!
My place of work is a 30 minute walk away, Up a hill going back. Roads are too knackered and busy for bikes. They need some dedicate cycle routes. If this was something you had to take a safety course for like a CBT for motorbikes then it would mean government would still get cash for people getting licenses to ride them, and you’d be able to know that the people riding them at least most have been trained to use them.
Require insurance to check that you are insured to ride them if you must but it’d be 100x cheaper for me to own something like this than it would be for me to own a car, use fuel to make a 5 minute trip driving to work…
Yet we’re giving it to the council to do ride for hire schemes because it nets them more pounds and creates a lot of clutter and waste on our streets because we have to hope people aren’t lazy and can put things back where they are supposed to. Not to mention you’re getting on one of these things for the first time or you aren’t riding them that often to even really learn how to ride them safely with a ride-to-hire scheme means you have a lot of unsafe or careless riders on the roads.
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We’re ass backwards. Probably because the government are still in bed with car companies and fuel companies; that they’d not make any money because a lot of the younger generation wouldn’t be buying gas-guzzlers, new cars or fuel for small trips.
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Modern police: “do literally anything before punishing criminals”
Problem with law and order is once the lower masses realise much of it is now a mere illusion, it’s very costly to get law and order back.
Freedom, civil society and peace are not defaults of man, we require institutions and structures to maintain them all.
Is it that different than the driving courses police offer car drivers for certain offences?
How about educating riders before they are allowed out on the road?
If someone causes an accident riding one of the damn things at speed on the pavement, surely ignorance of a fucking obvious law should be no defence?
These are all over the continent and work well as a green transport solution. Why is the UK so, so slow on treating them as basically bicycles? It’s also absurd to expect users to mingle with car traffic. Far safer and environmentally friendly to convert more roads to cycle and scooter only traffic.
> E-scooter riders who are found to have broken the law should be be offered education before being prosecuted, a police chief has said.
> E-scooters cannot currently be used in public outside of government trial zones, such as Canterbury.
Or they could just _update_ the laws to remove this idiotic exclusion, and save everyone the time, hassle and money involved.
>Last year, **a woman** was seriously injured…
Not x people, a (one) woman
Even the top police are saying to be understanding. The throw away the key and think about the after-effects later or deport em to Rwanda crowds aren’t going to be happy.
How about making sure that all users of the road, car, cyclists and escooters are legally required to have insurance and actually know the highway code
I’ve been knocked over more than once by a food delivery cyclist cutting between the road and pavement. Luckily I’m fairly resilient but I’ve seen old people knocked over more than once, knocked my walk between the train station and home
No. Prosecute them like anyone else without insurance/mot/VED/licence.
Fucking ridiculous.
They should be taxed and insured to start with.
Make them scoot to Rwanda
I don’t drive so I can’t comment on whether they are a menace on the road. However I can absolutely complain about the rental scooters, and bikes that just litter the fucking pavement. Not only are they ugly they are a hazard.
How about change educate for execute?
Someone said what I was thinking! Thank you!
My place of work is a 30 minute walk away, Up a hill going back. Roads are too knackered and busy for bikes. They need some dedicate cycle routes. If this was something you had to take a safety course for like a CBT for motorbikes then it would mean government would still get cash for people getting licenses to ride them, and you’d be able to know that the people riding them at least most have been trained to use them.
Require insurance to check that you are insured to ride them if you must but it’d be 100x cheaper for me to own something like this than it would be for me to own a car, use fuel to make a 5 minute trip driving to work…
Yet we’re giving it to the council to do ride for hire schemes because it nets them more pounds and creates a lot of clutter and waste on our streets because we have to hope people aren’t lazy and can put things back where they are supposed to. Not to mention you’re getting on one of these things for the first time or you aren’t riding them that often to even really learn how to ride them safely with a ride-to-hire scheme means you have a lot of unsafe or careless riders on the roads.
​
We’re ass backwards. Probably because the government are still in bed with car companies and fuel companies; that they’d not make any money because a lot of the younger generation wouldn’t be buying gas-guzzlers, new cars or fuel for small trips.