This is an unbearable tragedy for all concerned, and nobody can have anything but the greatest sympathy for the family and other loved ones. Sadly though, the prospects of a successful appeal seem to be non-existent.
>The boy’s parents have said they wanted treatment to continue as his heart was still beating.
Unfortunately that doesn’t mean anything. The heart will continue to beat as long as it’s provided with the glucose, oxygen etc it needs for respiration, because the heart generates its own impulses.
>”He’s so beautiful – he’s angelic. It’s no different to at home. He looks peaceful – he’s asleep,” Ms Dance said.
The photos she was/is posting to facebook don’t support that statement. The judgement issued by Justice Arbuthnot definitely does not support it. Per the judgement:
>I find that Archie died at noon on 31st May 2022, which was shortly after the MRI scans taken that day. I find that irreversible cessation of brain stem function has been conclusively established.
Those wishing to read the judgement in full can do so at the link below. Please be warned sections of the judgement describe in graphic detail the unfortunate state he’s in.
If you read between the lines of what happened to this boy you can understand the heartbreak of the family and why they might be acting the way they are,so I’ve got a lot of empathy.
I feel terrible for the parents, but it honestly seems like the trauma of grief of this particular situation has warped it into something that will only be more painful long-term.
>His mother said she talked to Archie every day and had told him “you really need to wake up now because we’ve got the biggest battle of our lives and it’ll be really great if you actually helped me”.
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>She said she had felt him squeeze her hand.
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>”He’s in there, physically, for whatever reason, whether it’s locked-in syndrome, whether he’s paralysed… I don’t know, but I feel he’s in there,” she said.
Unfortunately this now looks to be bordering on delusional territory.
This whole case makes me feel sick, I know it’s not my right as it’s nothing to do with me but it just creeps me out. I just keep telling myself he’s technically dead, he can’t feel anything and has no consciousness. I honestly don’t know why these sorts of measures are necessary, how many people recover from life support anyway? I feel like medicine has gone so far now that there will be more and more of these cases with parents expecting Drs to save their dead children and 2lb babies when there is actually only so much medicine can actually do…
Me and my mum have got an agreement that if either of us end up like this poor kid we want to be allowed to rest in peace instead of dragging it on. I can’t really comprehend what it’s like to be in his mum’s position, and I think she’s likely very vulnerable to the kind of weirdos issues like this attract, but I think she needs to let him pass with dignity.
he’s had some odd events go on in his life…just saying. There’s as yet no proof he was copying a tiktok challenge. Came across this from 2014. His mum never looks remotely emotional about the fact her son might be dying in the next few weeks, at the back of my mind I have a nagging feeling all this might be some form of Munchausen syndrome by proxy going on.
As someone who lost a child very suddenly I can appreciate to an extent how the mother/father must be feeling. You have your child there physically. He looks unharmed; at least there are no visual injuries. Unfortunately, as I found put through personal experience, it really is too much to cope with and you look for outlets that distract you from the reality of the situation. The child bereavement group I belong to is full of broken people, many of whom are throwing energy into inquests in some hope that they can mine something tangible to explain what happened.
My own child was very young and there’s something so vital and energetic about children, that somehow makes death seem impossible.
I too have read the report linked here, well, I got to page 20. It is abundantly clear that the boy is, in every measure of the term no longer alive. His brain injury has gone beyond the point where any hope of a recovery is impossible. My takeaway, from a medical perspective is that there is no blood flow into his brain. The fact he didn’t react sufficiently to stimulus used as a precursor to a brain death check, really does show that he is gone.
However, I defend his parents right to battle for their son. As a parent you protect and advocate. While his heart is still beating I think that they should be afforded the opportunity to fight for him. Yes it costs money, but while we can afford millions to decorate Royal residences, I think this money may help his parents to recover in some ways more quickly. Knowing they did everything.
The boy isn’t suffering, his mind is no longer able to process anything. So let the parents fight. Such a sad ending to a young life.
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This is an unbearable tragedy for all concerned, and nobody can have anything but the greatest sympathy for the family and other loved ones. Sadly though, the prospects of a successful appeal seem to be non-existent.
>The boy’s parents have said they wanted treatment to continue as his heart was still beating.
Unfortunately that doesn’t mean anything. The heart will continue to beat as long as it’s provided with the glucose, oxygen etc it needs for respiration, because the heart generates its own impulses.
>”He’s so beautiful – he’s angelic. It’s no different to at home. He looks peaceful – he’s asleep,” Ms Dance said.
The photos she was/is posting to facebook don’t support that statement. The judgement issued by Justice Arbuthnot definitely does not support it. Per the judgement:
>I find that Archie died at noon on 31st May 2022, which was shortly after the MRI scans taken that day. I find that irreversible cessation of brain stem function has been conclusively established.
Those wishing to read the judgement in full can do so at the link below. Please be warned sections of the judgement describe in graphic detail the unfortunate state he’s in.
>https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/Archie-Batteresbee-judgment-2-1.pdf
If you read between the lines of what happened to this boy you can understand the heartbreak of the family and why they might be acting the way they are,so I’ve got a lot of empathy.
I feel terrible for the parents, but it honestly seems like the trauma of grief of this particular situation has warped it into something that will only be more painful long-term.
>His mother said she talked to Archie every day and had told him “you really need to wake up now because we’ve got the biggest battle of our lives and it’ll be really great if you actually helped me”.
>
>She said she had felt him squeeze her hand.
>
>”He’s in there, physically, for whatever reason, whether it’s locked-in syndrome, whether he’s paralysed… I don’t know, but I feel he’s in there,” she said.
Unfortunately this now looks to be bordering on delusional territory.
This whole case makes me feel sick, I know it’s not my right as it’s nothing to do with me but it just creeps me out. I just keep telling myself he’s technically dead, he can’t feel anything and has no consciousness. I honestly don’t know why these sorts of measures are necessary, how many people recover from life support anyway? I feel like medicine has gone so far now that there will be more and more of these cases with parents expecting Drs to save their dead children and 2lb babies when there is actually only so much medicine can actually do…
Me and my mum have got an agreement that if either of us end up like this poor kid we want to be allowed to rest in peace instead of dragging it on. I can’t really comprehend what it’s like to be in his mum’s position, and I think she’s likely very vulnerable to the kind of weirdos issues like this attract, but I think she needs to let him pass with dignity.
he’s had some odd events go on in his life…just saying. There’s as yet no proof he was copying a tiktok challenge. Came across this from 2014. His mum never looks remotely emotional about the fact her son might be dying in the next few weeks, at the back of my mind I have a nagging feeling all this might be some form of Munchausen syndrome by proxy going on.
[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2774629/Boy-four-suffers-agonising-burns-Boots-pharmacy-gave-ear-drops-eye-infection.html](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2774629/Boy-four-suffers-agonising-burns-Boots-pharmacy-gave-ear-drops-eye-infection.html)
As someone who lost a child very suddenly I can appreciate to an extent how the mother/father must be feeling. You have your child there physically. He looks unharmed; at least there are no visual injuries. Unfortunately, as I found put through personal experience, it really is too much to cope with and you look for outlets that distract you from the reality of the situation. The child bereavement group I belong to is full of broken people, many of whom are throwing energy into inquests in some hope that they can mine something tangible to explain what happened.
My own child was very young and there’s something so vital and energetic about children, that somehow makes death seem impossible.
I too have read the report linked here, well, I got to page 20. It is abundantly clear that the boy is, in every measure of the term no longer alive. His brain injury has gone beyond the point where any hope of a recovery is impossible. My takeaway, from a medical perspective is that there is no blood flow into his brain. The fact he didn’t react sufficiently to stimulus used as a precursor to a brain death check, really does show that he is gone.
However, I defend his parents right to battle for their son. As a parent you protect and advocate. While his heart is still beating I think that they should be afforded the opportunity to fight for him. Yes it costs money, but while we can afford millions to decorate Royal residences, I think this money may help his parents to recover in some ways more quickly. Knowing they did everything.
The boy isn’t suffering, his mind is no longer able to process anything. So let the parents fight. Such a sad ending to a young life.