New offices, schools, hospitals and entertainment venues will be expected to have separate male and female lavatories, government sources have confirmed, in a move to curb the sole installation of gender-neutral facilities.
Ministers will formally announce this week that it is acting to prevent non-residential buildings from being built solely with “universal” lavatories.
The move will involve changes to building regulations and planning guidance.
It’s rather tragic that we need to have these discussions in 2022.
There are objective, discernable realities far above your inner self-identification.
British gender paranoia intensifies. XD UK is such a joke of a country rn.
RIP gender neutral urinals.
I think it makes a lot of sense to provide sex-segregated toilets in addition to all-gender toilets.
Sometimes people feel insecure, maybe they had a bad experience or maybe they just feel like the good old days. In that context, I think giving the option will actually help adoption.
PS: I was on a festival where they had mixed-gender showers O.O. Admittedly people there generally try to look after and care for each other so I’m not sure how generalizable my experience is. But that was a lot bigger thing in my head than in reality. Just worked. Maybe in the stall over is a girl. Maybe in the stall over is a guy. Who cares? In the end you’re there to shower so it doesn’t actually matter.
I don’t think this is something the government ought to be directly regulating personally, surely those who want to make an issue of where people piss can make their minds up themselves based on the needs of the building’s inhabitants?
It shouldn’t be the central government’s job to micro-manage this kind of thing, especially as part of a ham-fisted attempt to import American culture wars as a crutch for the lame duck that is Boris Johnson.
The lyceum I went to had unisex bathrooms and there were never any issues. Only when I got to uni did I notice people had an issue with it when I went to the women’s bathroom because the male one was full and a frau chided me for it on my way out.
I still don’t get what the problem is, I just know that adult people are a lot more stuck up than teenagers.
I would prefer to have a ladies room also. I do not care if there is also a neutral toilet and might use it also sometimes, but there are situations when you want the ladies room.
And another step backwards for the UK.
>Some women’s rights groups have argued that women are “disadvantaged” by gender-neutral facilities that contain a mixture of urinals and cubicles, since they cannot use urinals whereas men can use the cubicles.
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>“Furthermore, many women and girls are unwilling to walk past the urinals to get to the cubicles in the former men’s facilities,” the Fair Play for Women campaign group said in one submission to the government.
Those women’s rights group are retarded cunts. Apart from the fact there are definitely instruments that allow women to use urinals, what does it even matter if they can’t use them? There will be MORE cubicle available to women. Studies have shown that mixed-gender toilets decrease waiting times for women by a LOT (while increasing the waiting time for men slightly).
And what kind of stuck up tart is “unwilling to walk past the urinals to get to the cubicles”? WTF do they think happens at a urinal? Do they think men are going to piss all over women passing them? Besides, if this happens in “former men’s facilities”, it implies there are also “‘former women’s facilities”, which they can use without passing the horrendous 4 meter passage of urinals.
I can’t imagine these groups are representative of regular women. They have to be some kind of conservative lobby group, right? I don’t know of any actual modern women that think this way….
Such a weirdly negative reaction for something that doesn’t effect anything as much as people say. Unisex bathrooms are pretty common and there’s never an issue with them in my experience, it’s not like your pooping in public
An actually reasonable policy would be to mandate single-PERSON toilets (at some ratio to multiple-stall toilets).
I have been working at a place that organizes big events. They had a good system: the toilets had digital screens. Certain toilets were always for men, and certain for women. Then there were toilets that varied according to the situation. If there were a lot of men at the event, there were proportionally more men’s toilets and vice versa for women. If there were more or less the same number of men and women, there were more women’s toilets to reduce queues. Some of the toilets were also left neutral.
Men need their private urinals and women their own private spaces for other reasons. Why can’t there be three types of toilets, when it’s possible? Women’s, men’s and neutral. Also practical when it comes to long queues, a busy woman can go to a neutral toilet and someone who needs privacy can queue a little longer.
Worked in a recently converted hotel a while back. They had same sex toilets for bar and restaurant areas. Not because they were super woke but because they are a lot cheaper to install than two separate ones. Give it a few decades and public buildings will be the only ones with single sex toilets for purely financial reasons. What a win for our glorious government in its manufactured culture war.
Jesus. The world is going to hell
This reminds me the fall of Constantinople;the world was in deep sht and they were debating whether the Angels have sex.
Since when minority of people with personal issues gets so offended that there is a need for single sex toilets?
I am pretty sure the majority being male or female and regardless of sexual desires still want the system as it is
It’s not illegal for a man to go to the ladies or a woman to go to the gents though.
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New offices, schools, hospitals and entertainment venues will be expected to have separate male and female lavatories, government sources have confirmed, in a move to curb the sole installation of gender-neutral facilities.
Ministers will formally announce this week that it is acting to prevent non-residential buildings from being built solely with “universal” lavatories.
The move will involve changes to building regulations and planning guidance.
It’s rather tragic that we need to have these discussions in 2022.
There are objective, discernable realities far above your inner self-identification.
British gender paranoia intensifies. XD UK is such a joke of a country rn.
RIP gender neutral urinals.
I think it makes a lot of sense to provide sex-segregated toilets in addition to all-gender toilets.
Sometimes people feel insecure, maybe they had a bad experience or maybe they just feel like the good old days. In that context, I think giving the option will actually help adoption.
PS: I was on a festival where they had mixed-gender showers O.O. Admittedly people there generally try to look after and care for each other so I’m not sure how generalizable my experience is. But that was a lot bigger thing in my head than in reality. Just worked. Maybe in the stall over is a girl. Maybe in the stall over is a guy. Who cares? In the end you’re there to shower so it doesn’t actually matter.
I don’t think this is something the government ought to be directly regulating personally, surely those who want to make an issue of where people piss can make their minds up themselves based on the needs of the building’s inhabitants?
It shouldn’t be the central government’s job to micro-manage this kind of thing, especially as part of a ham-fisted attempt to import American culture wars as a crutch for the lame duck that is Boris Johnson.
The lyceum I went to had unisex bathrooms and there were never any issues. Only when I got to uni did I notice people had an issue with it when I went to the women’s bathroom because the male one was full and a frau chided me for it on my way out.
I still don’t get what the problem is, I just know that adult people are a lot more stuck up than teenagers.
I would prefer to have a ladies room also. I do not care if there is also a neutral toilet and might use it also sometimes, but there are situations when you want the ladies room.
And another step backwards for the UK.
>Some women’s rights groups have argued that women are “disadvantaged” by gender-neutral facilities that contain a mixture of urinals and cubicles, since they cannot use urinals whereas men can use the cubicles.
>
>“Furthermore, many women and girls are unwilling to walk past the urinals to get to the cubicles in the former men’s facilities,” the Fair Play for Women campaign group said in one submission to the government.
Those women’s rights group are retarded cunts. Apart from the fact there are definitely instruments that allow women to use urinals, what does it even matter if they can’t use them? There will be MORE cubicle available to women. Studies have shown that mixed-gender toilets decrease waiting times for women by a LOT (while increasing the waiting time for men slightly).
And what kind of stuck up tart is “unwilling to walk past the urinals to get to the cubicles”? WTF do they think happens at a urinal? Do they think men are going to piss all over women passing them? Besides, if this happens in “former men’s facilities”, it implies there are also “‘former women’s facilities”, which they can use without passing the horrendous 4 meter passage of urinals.
I can’t imagine these groups are representative of regular women. They have to be some kind of conservative lobby group, right? I don’t know of any actual modern women that think this way….
Such a weirdly negative reaction for something that doesn’t effect anything as much as people say. Unisex bathrooms are pretty common and there’s never an issue with them in my experience, it’s not like your pooping in public
An actually reasonable policy would be to mandate single-PERSON toilets (at some ratio to multiple-stall toilets).
I have been working at a place that organizes big events. They had a good system: the toilets had digital screens. Certain toilets were always for men, and certain for women. Then there were toilets that varied according to the situation. If there were a lot of men at the event, there were proportionally more men’s toilets and vice versa for women. If there were more or less the same number of men and women, there were more women’s toilets to reduce queues. Some of the toilets were also left neutral.
Men need their private urinals and women their own private spaces for other reasons. Why can’t there be three types of toilets, when it’s possible? Women’s, men’s and neutral. Also practical when it comes to long queues, a busy woman can go to a neutral toilet and someone who needs privacy can queue a little longer.
Worked in a recently converted hotel a while back. They had same sex toilets for bar and restaurant areas. Not because they were super woke but because they are a lot cheaper to install than two separate ones. Give it a few decades and public buildings will be the only ones with single sex toilets for purely financial reasons. What a win for our glorious government in its manufactured culture war.
Jesus. The world is going to hell
This reminds me the fall of Constantinople;the world was in deep sht and they were debating whether the Angels have sex.
Since when minority of people with personal issues gets so offended that there is a need for single sex toilets?
I am pretty sure the majority being male or female and regardless of sexual desires still want the system as it is
It’s not illegal for a man to go to the ladies or a woman to go to the gents though.