E-scooters are surely only good for the environment if the people using them are people who would otherwise be using a car or other fossil fueled means of transport.
Presumably there also needs to be enough of those people to offset the people who would’ve otherwise walked or used a bicycle, for example.
The issue is that there is nothing inherently wrong with scooters.
But the way the law has been introduced is to make private scooters illegal for use
That means that any private scooters used will be by people that are by definition happy to break the law.
So the public impression of scooters is that of a lawless illegal activity and will put off adoption by those that would follow the rules
How much “Brown” generated electricity do they use though?
I mean, electricity is only green and good for the environment if it’s not generated from burning old car tyres and shit.
What puts me off is that they just don’t look stable. With those little wheels, won’t any moderate obstacle simply send the rider off the front and over the handlebar?
So long as they’re kept firmly off pavements at all times and well regulated, it’s OK. However currently, they’re not kept off pavements. People ride them on the pavement with no consideration for pedestrians.
Insurance, age restriction, compulsory basic training or fuck off.
Really sick of seeing these things as well as hire bikes just randomly litter the street. Literally see them blocking the path so you have to step into the road to get past them.
I don’t really understand how they are preferable to cycling, if we had more cycle lanes they wouldnt be an issue. London is great, but the rest of the country is lacking
How “green” are e-scooters anyway? (Same goes for other electric vehicles.)
Sure, they may not physically use fossil fuel themselves, but the electricity that powers them has to be generated from somewhere within the still not very ecologically sound energy industry.
Plus the batteries they contain have ramped up the mining of rare earths, contributing to ongoing huge increases in environmental damage (not to mention human rights abuses) within the (mostly African) countries where they are found.
The scooters are fine, our society is the problem.
They’re incredibly useful when travelling around cities in Europe, especially the payg style ones.
Our problem is everything is fucking tiny here and crowded, streets, roads etc so you’re bound to get in the way
For those who are saying something along the lines of they should be allowed on the cycle lanes read [this](https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/red-routes/rules-of-red-routes/cycle-lanes) – they are allowed and encouraged, at least in london (can’t speak for everywhere), and the other comment section is filled with so much ignorance and obvious bias.
I have a petrol moped and I have just kept it in my garage, instead I rent escooters and I was very annoyed and amazed how I can’t legally buy to use my own, now I totally understand why, the majority of ignorance and lazy thought out opinions who only seem to care about what they think and complain brainlessly. I actually thought about getting my moped because of the prices.
Anyone who has worked with or used moped as transport knows the escooters are very good replacements. Just because you’re old and find new technology a scare factor or wacky theories of the wheels being too small, or you’ve got biased opinions like someone driving on a pavement – doesn’t make you right, just get a grip. We have all seen all walks of life using bikes on pavements, going very fast, it’s a Human thing, not an escooter thing. More die on normal bikes too, again Human thing. Can’t believe people stereotype someone using a escooter and publicly share that info.
Our infrastructure is based around cars, and sometimes humans. Everything else has to struggle to fit in around them.
How the fuck is an e-scooter a green step forward? Nobody uses them instead of cars. They only use them because they can’t be arsed to walk or to push the pedals on a bike.
Nothing wrong with them! But as usual this greedy evil government bans people from owning them but its perfectly fine to hire them from greedy companies or councils etc. Beyond a joke
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I had a thought the other day.
E-scooters are surely only good for the environment if the people using them are people who would otherwise be using a car or other fossil fueled means of transport.
Presumably there also needs to be enough of those people to offset the people who would’ve otherwise walked or used a bicycle, for example.
The issue is that there is nothing inherently wrong with scooters.
But the way the law has been introduced is to make private scooters illegal for use
That means that any private scooters used will be by people that are by definition happy to break the law.
So the public impression of scooters is that of a lawless illegal activity and will put off adoption by those that would follow the rules
How much “Brown” generated electricity do they use though?
I mean, electricity is only green and good for the environment if it’s not generated from burning old car tyres and shit.
What puts me off is that they just don’t look stable. With those little wheels, won’t any moderate obstacle simply send the rider off the front and over the handlebar?
So long as they’re kept firmly off pavements at all times and well regulated, it’s OK. However currently, they’re not kept off pavements. People ride them on the pavement with no consideration for pedestrians.
Insurance, age restriction, compulsory basic training or fuck off.
Really sick of seeing these things as well as hire bikes just randomly litter the street. Literally see them blocking the path so you have to step into the road to get past them.
I don’t really understand how they are preferable to cycling, if we had more cycle lanes they wouldnt be an issue. London is great, but the rest of the country is lacking
How “green” are e-scooters anyway? (Same goes for other electric vehicles.)
Sure, they may not physically use fossil fuel themselves, but the electricity that powers them has to be generated from somewhere within the still not very ecologically sound energy industry.
Plus the batteries they contain have ramped up the mining of rare earths, contributing to ongoing huge increases in environmental damage (not to mention human rights abuses) within the (mostly African) countries where they are found.
The scooters are fine, our society is the problem.
They’re incredibly useful when travelling around cities in Europe, especially the payg style ones.
Our problem is everything is fucking tiny here and crowded, streets, roads etc so you’re bound to get in the way
For those who are saying something along the lines of they should be allowed on the cycle lanes read [this](https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/red-routes/rules-of-red-routes/cycle-lanes) – they are allowed and encouraged, at least in london (can’t speak for everywhere), and the other comment section is filled with so much ignorance and obvious bias.
I have a petrol moped and I have just kept it in my garage, instead I rent escooters and I was very annoyed and amazed how I can’t legally buy to use my own, now I totally understand why, the majority of ignorance and lazy thought out opinions who only seem to care about what they think and complain brainlessly. I actually thought about getting my moped because of the prices.
Anyone who has worked with or used moped as transport knows the escooters are very good replacements. Just because you’re old and find new technology a scare factor or wacky theories of the wheels being too small, or you’ve got biased opinions like someone driving on a pavement – doesn’t make you right, just get a grip. We have all seen all walks of life using bikes on pavements, going very fast, it’s a Human thing, not an escooter thing. More die on normal bikes too, again Human thing. Can’t believe people stereotype someone using a escooter and publicly share that info.
Our infrastructure is based around cars, and sometimes humans. Everything else has to struggle to fit in around them.
How the fuck is an e-scooter a green step forward? Nobody uses them instead of cars. They only use them because they can’t be arsed to walk or to push the pedals on a bike.
Nothing wrong with them! But as usual this greedy evil government bans people from owning them but its perfectly fine to hire them from greedy companies or councils etc. Beyond a joke