> The shift in views by a net 12 points … Yet the new figures show support for the strike rising +7 percentage points from the same poll question on Thursday, and opposition falling by -6
Isn’t that a net shift of 13 points?
Yougov polling with fieldwork done at pretty much the same time had 41% support and 45% oppose – but like the Opinium poll they also measured a increase in support from the week before (+4%). There wasn’t any change in opposition though.
Polls keep showing split support and opposition for the strikes, and I think more polls will get similar results.
Looks like the UK media failed at its primary role.
I wonder if certain outlets will swap narrative at some point if public support tilts enough in favour.
It’s hard for the media to do its usual hatchet job when the current cabinet of ministers have so many scandals under their belt. I’d try to list them all, but there’s too many.
Critics of unions love to highlight the Union leaders’ salaries but he has shown why it’s important to have the most capable people leading it. He’s earned his money and I suspect his members are happy with his performance so far. It’s always baffled me anyway, one of the major roles of a union is to improve pay so it’s in no way hypocritical for one them to actually have good pay. It’s the same weird logic that thinks Champagne Socialist is an insult. Someone earns good money but believes society should be more equal – it’s hardly a brainbender
Mike lych has been all over media this last week for me, particularly tick tock, he seems to have the ability to keep on message and say it in an entertaining way. It’s also pretty satisfying to watch someone openly call a Tory representative a liar on the news. Hope this spreads and doesn’t just sink behind the next scandal.
Mike Lynch for PM
oh look the tory narrative of trying to pit the public against themselves failed.. that’s actually new
The strikes, what the RMT want etc. is almost not in the equation.
I think the main reason for the increased support is that people fundamentally do not trust that the government has done everything it can to negotiate. This got supercharged when someone so apparently trustworthy (like Mick Lynch) is presenting for the RMT.
It makes it much easier to pick a side. Almost as easy as Ukraine v Russia.
The best (and I use the term loosely) arguments against the RMT’s demands are quite technical and relate to modernisation.
The worst seem to stem from dissatisfaction with *other* workers’ pay and conditions. Nurses, teachers etc. Surely that only means their representation on these matters isn’t as good. Not that the RMT should do less. If you want a similar level of fight put up for you in your workplace, join a union.
But, but, but he has The Hood from Thunderbirds as his facebook avatar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
my dad works in health and safety on the railways and has been in the RMT for years and seeing the increase in support now, i couldn’t be prouder
He’s a treasure. I’m an RMT member and former union rep, and he’s the beat we’ve had since Bob Crow. Can honestly say I didn’t really even know who any of our general secs have been since Mick.
I think the negativity from the press has harmed itself. People usually feel like they are on the side of the host of the news program they watch but all of a sudden they realise that they are in a similar situation the the rail workers and the number of Google searches for ‘joining unions’ goes through the roof.
The UK now has a record number of billionaires with 177, according to the new Sunday Times Rich List.
That’s up six from 2021 – and the combined wealth of the UK’s billionaires stands at £653bn, up more than £55bn (9.4%) on the total wealth of the billionaires in last year’s Rich List.
The London-based Hinduja brothers, Sri and Gopi, and family are the richest people in the UK with a £28bn fortune, which is up more than £11bn on last year.It is the biggest fortune recorded in the 34 years of publication of the Rich List.Overall, the richest 250 people in the UK this year are worth £710.723bn, compared to £658.089 billion in 2021, an 8% rise on last year.
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coincidentally, The Consumer Prices Index including owner occupiers’ housing costs (CPIH) rose by 7.9% in the 12 months to May 2022,
“now supports”
We always did ya damn fools. It was the media lying saying we didnt
Good, I hope the unions get the strength back, they had before Thatcher.
I think this is a combination of Lynch’s positive publicity drive, and the public finally starting to understand, from first hand experience, what a below inflation pay rise actually means.
I can’t help but think there’s an alternative reality out there where he’s the next leader of the Labour party
That’ll happen when you’ve got someone who knows their shit and can convey it strongly and clearly
As someone whose travel plans were badly affected by these strikes….. I blame the business model that our country’s railways operate on. Only for return on investment, absolutely no space for cheaper fares or better pay/job quality for staff. It’s absolute clownery and I support the strikes if they have a shot at changing things.
Credit to Mick, he’s been self aware enough to remind people that this isn’t a strike because the RMT think they deserve more than others, it’s because they want the best for their members.
Too often I think it’s easy for the government to paint strikers as selfish and thinking they are above the rest of the work force. He was quick to say on Question Time he thinks all workers deserve better conditions – and he’s not wrong.
I have noticed a lot of people telling me they support us striking when they come through my station. TSSA and ASLEF are balloting now as well too so that’s all good
The older I get the more I realise that the key to success in anything is marketing and public relations.
Literally joined a union because of this guy. Ty rightwing media for giving him a platform
That’s incredibly impressive given the media’s hate for unions or supporting working class people trying to avoid poverty.
ooooh that’s a big deal. When did the British public last support industrial action? I can’t recollect…
I saw plenty of cars tooting horns in support of the rail strikers the other week.
Tabloids seem to be failing in their mission to keep rabble rousers in check.
It’s unbelievable how badly the British Media misread their coordinated attacks on Mick and the rest of the RMT. Fascinating that a union rep merely getting to the point and calling out blatant lies has caused such a furore. Brilliant stuff.
And still the “””Labour””” party is still against workers actually using what little power they have.
He did well, he got the narrative to be about all of us, all of our struggles in the UK and galvanised it as workers vs tory elite not just RMT.
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> The shift in views by a net 12 points … Yet the new figures show support for the strike rising +7 percentage points from the same poll question on Thursday, and opposition falling by -6
Isn’t that a net shift of 13 points?
Yougov polling with fieldwork done at pretty much the same time had 41% support and 45% oppose – but like the Opinium poll they also measured a increase in support from the week before (+4%). There wasn’t any change in opposition though.
https://nitter.net/YouGov/status/1541431788979081217
Polls keep showing split support and opposition for the strikes, and I think more polls will get similar results.
Looks like the UK media failed at its primary role.
I wonder if certain outlets will swap narrative at some point if public support tilts enough in favour.
It’s hard for the media to do its usual hatchet job when the current cabinet of ministers have so many scandals under their belt. I’d try to list them all, but there’s too many.
Critics of unions love to highlight the Union leaders’ salaries but he has shown why it’s important to have the most capable people leading it. He’s earned his money and I suspect his members are happy with his performance so far. It’s always baffled me anyway, one of the major roles of a union is to improve pay so it’s in no way hypocritical for one them to actually have good pay. It’s the same weird logic that thinks Champagne Socialist is an insult. Someone earns good money but believes society should be more equal – it’s hardly a brainbender
Mike lych has been all over media this last week for me, particularly tick tock, he seems to have the ability to keep on message and say it in an entertaining way. It’s also pretty satisfying to watch someone openly call a Tory representative a liar on the news. Hope this spreads and doesn’t just sink behind the next scandal.
Mike Lynch for PM
oh look the tory narrative of trying to pit the public against themselves failed.. that’s actually new
The strikes, what the RMT want etc. is almost not in the equation.
I think the main reason for the increased support is that people fundamentally do not trust that the government has done everything it can to negotiate. This got supercharged when someone so apparently trustworthy (like Mick Lynch) is presenting for the RMT.
It makes it much easier to pick a side. Almost as easy as Ukraine v Russia.
The best (and I use the term loosely) arguments against the RMT’s demands are quite technical and relate to modernisation.
The worst seem to stem from dissatisfaction with *other* workers’ pay and conditions. Nurses, teachers etc. Surely that only means their representation on these matters isn’t as good. Not that the RMT should do less. If you want a similar level of fight put up for you in your workplace, join a union.
But, but, but he has The Hood from Thunderbirds as his facebook avatar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
my dad works in health and safety on the railways and has been in the RMT for years and seeing the increase in support now, i couldn’t be prouder
He’s a treasure. I’m an RMT member and former union rep, and he’s the beat we’ve had since Bob Crow. Can honestly say I didn’t really even know who any of our general secs have been since Mick.
I think the negativity from the press has harmed itself. People usually feel like they are on the side of the host of the news program they watch but all of a sudden they realise that they are in a similar situation the the rail workers and the number of Google searches for ‘joining unions’ goes through the roof.
The UK now has a record number of billionaires with 177, according to the new Sunday Times Rich List.
That’s up six from 2021 – and the combined wealth of the UK’s billionaires stands at £653bn, up more than £55bn (9.4%) on the total wealth of the billionaires in last year’s Rich List.
The London-based Hinduja brothers, Sri and Gopi, and family are the richest people in the UK with a £28bn fortune, which is up more than £11bn on last year.It is the biggest fortune recorded in the 34 years of publication of the Rich List.Overall, the richest 250 people in the UK this year are worth £710.723bn, compared to £658.089 billion in 2021, an 8% rise on last year.
​
​
coincidentally, The Consumer Prices Index including owner occupiers’ housing costs (CPIH) rose by 7.9% in the 12 months to May 2022,
“now supports”
We always did ya damn fools. It was the media lying saying we didnt
Good, I hope the unions get the strength back, they had before Thatcher.
I think this is a combination of Lynch’s positive publicity drive, and the public finally starting to understand, from first hand experience, what a below inflation pay rise actually means.
I can’t help but think there’s an alternative reality out there where he’s the next leader of the Labour party
That’ll happen when you’ve got someone who knows their shit and can convey it strongly and clearly
As someone whose travel plans were badly affected by these strikes….. I blame the business model that our country’s railways operate on. Only for return on investment, absolutely no space for cheaper fares or better pay/job quality for staff. It’s absolute clownery and I support the strikes if they have a shot at changing things.
Credit to Mick, he’s been self aware enough to remind people that this isn’t a strike because the RMT think they deserve more than others, it’s because they want the best for their members.
Too often I think it’s easy for the government to paint strikers as selfish and thinking they are above the rest of the work force. He was quick to say on Question Time he thinks all workers deserve better conditions – and he’s not wrong.
I have noticed a lot of people telling me they support us striking when they come through my station. TSSA and ASLEF are balloting now as well too so that’s all good
The older I get the more I realise that the key to success in anything is marketing and public relations.
Literally joined a union because of this guy. Ty rightwing media for giving him a platform
That’s incredibly impressive given the media’s hate for unions or supporting working class people trying to avoid poverty.
ooooh that’s a big deal. When did the British public last support industrial action? I can’t recollect…
I saw plenty of cars tooting horns in support of the rail strikers the other week.
Tabloids seem to be failing in their mission to keep rabble rousers in check.
It’s unbelievable how badly the British Media misread their coordinated attacks on Mick and the rest of the RMT. Fascinating that a union rep merely getting to the point and calling out blatant lies has caused such a furore. Brilliant stuff.
And still the “””Labour””” party is still against workers actually using what little power they have.
He did well, he got the narrative to be about all of us, all of our struggles in the UK and galvanised it as workers vs tory elite not just RMT.