* In Foundation training, you will earn a basic salary of £29,384 **(£38k)** to £34,012 **(£44k)** (from 1 April 2022).
* If you’re a doctor starting your specialist training in 2022 your basic salary will be £40,257 **(£52k)** to £53,398 **(£69k)**.
* If you’re working as a specialty doctor you’ll earn a basic salary of £50,373 **(£65k)** to £78,759 **(£98k)**. If you are a specialist grade doctor you’ll earn a basic salary of £80,693 to £91,584.
* As a consultant from 1 April 2021, you’ll earn a basic salary of £84,559 **(£110k)** to £114,003 **(£148k)** per year
* the pay range for salaried GPs is £62,268 **(£81k)** to £93,965 **(£122k)**.
In bold I’ve done the rough calculations of a 30% increase on each figure.
til: there are enough doctors to cause inflation…
10 gallons of crap in a 5 gallon drum.
And MP’s deserves there pay rise for essentially bitching at each other and failing the nations as much as possible. Because?
This is not a pay rise. It’s pay restoration for years or not keeping up with inflation. At it’s over 5 years so 6% a year is what’s been asked for – still under inflation. The tories would have the working people of this country tearing each other apart in pits for sport if they thought it would secure them the next election.
Imagine telling people whose sole purpose is to save lives is they don’t deserve a pay rise after the last 2-3 years they had…
It’s almost as if they’re trying to make the NHS collapse so they can sell it off to their mates.
I’m just being silly though, surely.
We’re heading straight for a massive general strike at this rate, aren’t we?
Imagine being a doctor, overworked and taking a pay cut year on year for over a decade, seeing the NHS being destroyed, and then this little cretin says you don’t deserve a pay rise
My son is training to be a doctor. I’m amazed he doesn’t have PTSD.
The p*ss poor salary is appauling (and, as a developed country, embarrassing) but the bigger issue is the horrific working conditions. They need to be permitted to get enough sleep and to enjoy something of a life.
I’d like one Tory MP to fully explain to me why they deserve a bigger salary and a massive pay rise when junior doctors are working 100 hours plus a week for scraps. Oh, and doctors don’t have secondary, lucrative lobbying roles (the real motivation for a Tory MP, IMO – it’s all about access).
Coincidentally, in the same time period MPs have gotten.. you guessed it! A 30% pay-rise.
Pay **RESTORATION**, not payrise.
Someone at my work said today doctors and teachers shouldn’t moan about payrise they don’t bring any money to their business. I had no idea how to replay…
After all the front line workers, crucial workers did, all those who kept things going during the pandemic, they deserve our thanks and a bloody big pay rise, too!
What did hedge fund managers, MP’s, those with obscene wealth do during that time?
“But I certainly do” says the same minister.
They deserve it more than practically every other occupation though. I’d rather our doctors were paid too much than nowhere near enough, at least that way we might stop the brain drain we are currently seeing. The NHS has done a lot over the last few years and is now having to clear the backlog, all while being treated as the enemy by the government that did its best to hamstring it whenever possible. That is far more commendable than anything the government has done but MPs are happy to accept their pay rise without question. I think the public might also agree that doctors and nurses deserve a pay rise more so than MPs do.
All NHS staff deserve to be paid the most for any public sector worker in the world for their equivalent jobs and if that means we need to give them a 300% increase then so be it.
They are machines, every time I have had to deal with an actual Doctor or Nurse I have been utterly amazed at their staying power, their kindness and compassion. I couldn’t do it if you gave me a lifetime of training then de-aged me to try.
The fact that our trained staff are fucking off to New Zealand and Canada and the rest is shameful. Bring this government down immediately.
They increase pensions inline with inflation (currently 11%) as per the reprehensible triple lock, the beneficiaries of which mainly vote Tory. Working people who typically don’t vote Tory “don’t deserve” a pay rise. Their attempts to buy off their supporters is so blatant. The corrupt vote in the corrupt I suppose.
I totally support the doctors in this. Their pay has dropped by ~30% in real terms over the past decade, and now they just want to be paid what they used to be.
I just hope the doctors can hold their nerve, because they’re going to have to strike to get this.
Paediatric doctors literally print money for the government, every child’s life they save is free tax money. Fuck off you stupid politician, pay em what they’re due.
Start by paying people more from the bottom up, ie cleaner/domestic staff, nurses then doctors. If they do it from the top down, there won’t be any money left to give the cleaners a pay rise.
Didn’t they literally just get us through a pandemic, saving countless lives? And didn’t the government fuck everything up, ending countless lives?
Sounds like that minister should take his head out of his ass.
Sorry, what’s this about the invisible hand? The free market? Neoliberalism? Deregulation?
If the NHS wants to retain top doctors and get more of them, it needs to pay doctors enough to do that. That means pay increases.
Bankers need deregulated bonuses though
says same minister probably…….cunt
So incredibly glad we left the UK for NZ when we did (February 2020).
My wife’s a doctor (essentially F3 now due to not getting onto a training programme here immediately) and has gone from working a 48-60hr week of brutal shifts for £40k ish a year, to doing a 32 hour week (8 hours of that being a college day) with one weekend day a month for £130k (private medical firm, so not entirely apples to apples, I’ll concede).
I’ve gone from a stressful 40hr a week/£35k a year job with the government to a 28hr a week role earning £70k + a generous benefits package for my entire family.
UK pay and working conditions suck, and anyone with the means to do so will leave unless we get our shit together.
Brexit or no Brexit, it’s a global jobs market now for a lot of skilled jobs, and it’s not greedy or inconsiderate to expect to be paid & treated fairly/somewhat in-line with what other similar first world economies out there are offering.
Covid cases are rising. If doctors can’t afford to be doctors then everyone’s in trouble.
Tories : people who own stuff deserve free money, people who do the work deserve nothing
So.. MP’s don’t deserve their 34% pay rise then?
STRIKE STRIKE STRIKE
What a sorry state our country is in. It’s disgusting, absolutely disgusting.
Hourly rate for doctors is pitifully low, most politicians are as much use as a chocolate tea pot.
“You don’t deserve a pay rise,” says someone who’s not only just got an extra £2200 per year but has no doubt run up a massive expense account for things like second homes.
‘Deserve’ is such a stupid word to use regarding pay.
Lmao ministers are glorified unskilled labour and this guy has the gall to shittalk doctors?
They should have given him 30% less treatment when he had covid or his routine appointment he had recently.
This is why not getting annual raises is bullshit. Every year you dont get one, you need a bigger one to get you back to where you were.
30% sounds crazy until you realise they’ve effectively had paycuts for years. It all starts to add up but all they are asking for is about the same as they used to get.
Then ministers don’t deserve their annual 11% pay rise, they already make more than most NHS staff, why should they make more, where’d the phrase, “were all in this together” go?
I can’t see young doctors staying here. If you worked your arse of for years to get this job, at the end of it they want their reward for sleepless nights and stress ridden studies. The exodus of medical staff to other countries offering higher salaries will continue.
Even the 30% rise is peanuts for these doctors given whats on offer elsewhere.
Doctors don’t have access to nearly £200K in expenses though, do they Chris. Cunt.
Who needs a payrise when you have all those claps. /s
Let’s be clear, they have had over 10 years of below inflation pay rise. This year inflation is approaching 10%, they are asking for 15% over 5 years. If they get this, by 2027 they will still be earning less than if their pay had kept up with inflation.
Then meet them in the middle and make an effort with them and everyone else you massive cunts.
They deserve it a damm sight more than politicians
I’m guessing it was a Tory mp
Next time a minister ends up in hospital, just don’t treat the c*nt.
I agree. A 50% pay rise should happen instead as they work shit hours, are under constant pressure and have an awful work-life balance, are accountable for everything and their careers can easily be fucked over if something goes wrong.
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Unlike MPs who get a “mere” 2.1k pay raise this year. THAT’S MORE THEN I FUCKING MAKE IN A FEW MONTHS!
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The MPs who work their arses off are rare. The rest are useless tossers who feel entitled to everything.
Now, that IS a hell of a pay rise, but doctors have done quite a lot for us in the past few years haven’t they???
The alternative (as I’m told it by people working in hospitals) is the doctors quit their full time jobs in the hospital and become self employed/work through an agency where their pay demands are significantly higher.
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They are correct. It should be 50 per cent
Ministers don’t deserve their salary. See, easy to say.
Probably don’t deserve 15 years of stagnant pay with increasing pressure and relentless attacks in the media either, but here we are.
No, they deserve much more as do most working people.
[Doctor’s salaries, for reference](https://www.healthcareers.nhs.uk/explore-roles/doctors/pay-doctors/pay-doctors)
* In Foundation training, you will earn a basic salary of £29,384 **(£38k)** to £34,012 **(£44k)** (from 1 April 2022).
* If you’re a doctor starting your specialist training in 2022 your basic salary will be £40,257 **(£52k)** to £53,398 **(£69k)**.
* If you’re working as a specialty doctor you’ll earn a basic salary of £50,373 **(£65k)** to £78,759 **(£98k)**. If you are a specialist grade doctor you’ll earn a basic salary of £80,693 to £91,584.
* As a consultant from 1 April 2021, you’ll earn a basic salary of £84,559 **(£110k)** to £114,003 **(£148k)** per year
* the pay range for salaried GPs is £62,268 **(£81k)** to £93,965 **(£122k)**.
In bold I’ve done the rough calculations of a 30% increase on each figure.
til: there are enough doctors to cause inflation…
10 gallons of crap in a 5 gallon drum.
And MP’s deserves there pay rise for essentially bitching at each other and failing the nations as much as possible. Because?
This is not a pay rise. It’s pay restoration for years or not keeping up with inflation. At it’s over 5 years so 6% a year is what’s been asked for – still under inflation. The tories would have the working people of this country tearing each other apart in pits for sport if they thought it would secure them the next election.
Imagine telling people whose sole purpose is to save lives is they don’t deserve a pay rise after the last 2-3 years they had…
It’s almost as if they’re trying to make the NHS collapse so they can sell it off to their mates.
I’m just being silly though, surely.
We’re heading straight for a massive general strike at this rate, aren’t we?
Imagine being a doctor, overworked and taking a pay cut year on year for over a decade, seeing the NHS being destroyed, and then this little cretin says you don’t deserve a pay rise
My son is training to be a doctor. I’m amazed he doesn’t have PTSD.
The p*ss poor salary is appauling (and, as a developed country, embarrassing) but the bigger issue is the horrific working conditions. They need to be permitted to get enough sleep and to enjoy something of a life.
I’d like one Tory MP to fully explain to me why they deserve a bigger salary and a massive pay rise when junior doctors are working 100 hours plus a week for scraps. Oh, and doctors don’t have secondary, lucrative lobbying roles (the real motivation for a Tory MP, IMO – it’s all about access).
Coincidentally, in the same time period MPs have gotten.. you guessed it! A 30% pay-rise.
Pay **RESTORATION**, not payrise.
Someone at my work said today doctors and teachers shouldn’t moan about payrise they don’t bring any money to their business. I had no idea how to replay…
After all the front line workers, crucial workers did, all those who kept things going during the pandemic, they deserve our thanks and a bloody big pay rise, too!
What did hedge fund managers, MP’s, those with obscene wealth do during that time?
“But I certainly do” says the same minister.
They deserve it more than practically every other occupation though. I’d rather our doctors were paid too much than nowhere near enough, at least that way we might stop the brain drain we are currently seeing. The NHS has done a lot over the last few years and is now having to clear the backlog, all while being treated as the enemy by the government that did its best to hamstring it whenever possible. That is far more commendable than anything the government has done but MPs are happy to accept their pay rise without question. I think the public might also agree that doctors and nurses deserve a pay rise more so than MPs do.
All NHS staff deserve to be paid the most for any public sector worker in the world for their equivalent jobs and if that means we need to give them a 300% increase then so be it.
They are machines, every time I have had to deal with an actual Doctor or Nurse I have been utterly amazed at their staying power, their kindness and compassion. I couldn’t do it if you gave me a lifetime of training then de-aged me to try.
The fact that our trained staff are fucking off to New Zealand and Canada and the rest is shameful. Bring this government down immediately.
They increase pensions inline with inflation (currently 11%) as per the reprehensible triple lock, the beneficiaries of which mainly vote Tory. Working people who typically don’t vote Tory “don’t deserve” a pay rise. Their attempts to buy off their supporters is so blatant. The corrupt vote in the corrupt I suppose.
I totally support the doctors in this. Their pay has dropped by ~30% in real terms over the past decade, and now they just want to be paid what they used to be.
I just hope the doctors can hold their nerve, because they’re going to have to strike to get this.
Paediatric doctors literally print money for the government, every child’s life they save is free tax money. Fuck off you stupid politician, pay em what they’re due.
Start by paying people more from the bottom up, ie cleaner/domestic staff, nurses then doctors. If they do it from the top down, there won’t be any money left to give the cleaners a pay rise.
Didn’t they literally just get us through a pandemic, saving countless lives? And didn’t the government fuck everything up, ending countless lives?
Sounds like that minister should take his head out of his ass.
Sorry, what’s this about the invisible hand? The free market? Neoliberalism? Deregulation?
If the NHS wants to retain top doctors and get more of them, it needs to pay doctors enough to do that. That means pay increases.
Bankers need deregulated bonuses though
says same minister probably…….cunt
So incredibly glad we left the UK for NZ when we did (February 2020).
My wife’s a doctor (essentially F3 now due to not getting onto a training programme here immediately) and has gone from working a 48-60hr week of brutal shifts for £40k ish a year, to doing a 32 hour week (8 hours of that being a college day) with one weekend day a month for £130k (private medical firm, so not entirely apples to apples, I’ll concede).
I’ve gone from a stressful 40hr a week/£35k a year job with the government to a 28hr a week role earning £70k + a generous benefits package for my entire family.
UK pay and working conditions suck, and anyone with the means to do so will leave unless we get our shit together.
Brexit or no Brexit, it’s a global jobs market now for a lot of skilled jobs, and it’s not greedy or inconsiderate to expect to be paid & treated fairly/somewhat in-line with what other similar first world economies out there are offering.
Covid cases are rising. If doctors can’t afford to be doctors then everyone’s in trouble.
Tories : people who own stuff deserve free money, people who do the work deserve nothing
So.. MP’s don’t deserve their 34% pay rise then?
STRIKE STRIKE STRIKE
What a sorry state our country is in. It’s disgusting, absolutely disgusting.
Hourly rate for doctors is pitifully low, most politicians are as much use as a chocolate tea pot.
“You don’t deserve a pay rise,” says someone who’s not only just got an extra £2200 per year but has no doubt run up a massive expense account for things like second homes.
‘Deserve’ is such a stupid word to use regarding pay.
Lmao ministers are glorified unskilled labour and this guy has the gall to shittalk doctors?
They should have given him 30% less treatment when he had covid or his routine appointment he had recently.
This is why not getting annual raises is bullshit. Every year you dont get one, you need a bigger one to get you back to where you were.
30% sounds crazy until you realise they’ve effectively had paycuts for years. It all starts to add up but all they are asking for is about the same as they used to get.
Then ministers don’t deserve their annual 11% pay rise, they already make more than most NHS staff, why should they make more, where’d the phrase, “were all in this together” go?
I can’t see young doctors staying here. If you worked your arse of for years to get this job, at the end of it they want their reward for sleepless nights and stress ridden studies. The exodus of medical staff to other countries offering higher salaries will continue.
Even the 30% rise is peanuts for these doctors given whats on offer elsewhere.
Doctors don’t have access to nearly £200K in expenses though, do they Chris. Cunt.
Who needs a payrise when you have all those claps. /s
Let’s be clear, they have had over 10 years of below inflation pay rise. This year inflation is approaching 10%, they are asking for 15% over 5 years. If they get this, by 2027 they will still be earning less than if their pay had kept up with inflation.
Then meet them in the middle and make an effort with them and everyone else you massive cunts.
They deserve it a damm sight more than politicians
I’m guessing it was a Tory mp
Next time a minister ends up in hospital, just don’t treat the c*nt.
I agree. A 50% pay rise should happen instead as they work shit hours, are under constant pressure and have an awful work-life balance, are accountable for everything and their careers can easily be fucked over if something goes wrong.
​
Unlike MPs who get a “mere” 2.1k pay raise this year. THAT’S MORE THEN I FUCKING MAKE IN A FEW MONTHS!
​
The MPs who work their arses off are rare. The rest are useless tossers who feel entitled to everything.
Now, that IS a hell of a pay rise, but doctors have done quite a lot for us in the past few years haven’t they???
The alternative (as I’m told it by people working in hospitals) is the doctors quit their full time jobs in the hospital and become self employed/work through an agency where their pay demands are significantly higher.